ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) When I first heard about Flacco's contract demands. Now. My face the next 6 years when the Ravens don't make the playoffs because they can't spend money on FA's that will save Flacco's ass during his horrid reg. season play. Edited March 2, 2013 by Julio4Ever 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted March 2, 2013 Hey... I don't think he's worth it, I don't think he deserves it... But he and his agent negotiated it. Props to them, man. Props to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted March 2, 2013 His regular season play doesn't warrant it, but the Ravens could have just franchised him. This is really odd for Ozzie Newsome. He might be a fire-breathing dragon in the playoffs, but 22-10 is not 120mil for 6 kind of numbers. I think a lot of you are overreacting, though. The Ravens aren't going to start missing the playoffs regularly or anything. This is not going to cripple Ozzie Newsome. If anybody can tackle this kind of contract and still find players, it's him. The Ravens best hope they can get at least one of the two signed in Kruger or Ellerbe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 442 Posted March 2, 2013 That's what they get for not signing him to an extension last year when he was one play away from the Super Bowl. Good for Flacco. I've seen worse deals though. If you consider the amount of money teams waste on free agent busts, and draft busts (historically), it's hard to say this is one of the worst uses of their money. He isn't good enough to be the highest paid player in the NFL but at least he's good enough to win Super Bowls. Maybe he can win one more within these six years and make it worth it for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted March 2, 2013 Just saw the numbers... He really got his 20 per. damn yo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted March 2, 2013 Yeah, I understand why everyone is lol'ing over this shit, but people are acting like this is going to be the death of the Ravens. What happens if Baltimore wins another Super Bowl within 2-3 years, and because of Joe's play? He will never be the most prolific QB in NFL history statistically, but if the playoff play continues, particularly at least one win per season (I know it's unlikely, but this team is solid from the front office down to through the 53 man roster; anything can happen), he may very well be considered an all-time great and HOFer. I find that unlikely if he can't get better TD totals in the regular season, but anything is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baltimoreravens 19 Posted March 2, 2013 Waiting to hear what the guaranteed money is. It's not ideal but it was going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted March 2, 2013 What happens if Baltimore wins another Super Bowl within 2-3 years, and because of Joe's play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted March 3, 2013 What happens if Baltimore wins another Super Bowl within 2-3 years, and because of Joe's play? In order for that to happen, Flacco will need to elevate his play to a level it has never been before. I don't like the chances of that happening once the man's made his money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted March 4, 2013 In order for that to happen, Flacco will need to elevate his play to a level it has never been before. I don't like the chances of that happening once the man's made his money. His play in the playoffs this year was beyond anything I have seen in a long time. If he can do that for a full season we are talking about him in the same breath as Rodgers and Brady. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted March 4, 2013 His play in the playoffs this year was beyond anything I have seen in a long time. If he can do that for a full season we are talking about him in the same breath as Rodgers and Brady. Except that's a pretty big "if," considering his inconsistent history, especially when you consider the Ravens' limited ability to surround him with good players now that their financial restrictions have heightened in the wake of this contract. What happens when Torrey Smith wants to get paid? To thicken the plot a little, I saw this on Twitter this afternoon, per Peter King: I hear the Flacco cap numbers in years 1 and 2 of the proposed contract are $6.8m and $14.8m. Huge help for Ravens if it gets signed Monday. Doing the math, that means that the average cap hit for Flacco in years 3 through 6 of his contract will be $24.75M per year. That's a huge percentage of one team's salary cap devoted to one player. Sure, it gives Baltimore cap relief for the next two seasons, but any big contracts signed during that time only tighten things in the long-term. Is it really smart to dedicate that much to a player who, when talking about consistent, regular season success, the word "if" always pops up? The Ravens did a good job of getting a deal done before having to use the franchise tag, but one has to wonder how much this deal will limit their ability to win Super Bowls in the near future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted March 4, 2013 Except that's a pretty big "if," considering his inconsistent history, especially when you consider the Ravens' limited ability to surround him with good players now that their financial restrictions have heightened in the wake of this contract. What happens when Torrey Smith wants to get paid? To thicken the plot a little, I saw this on Twitter this afternoon, per Peter King: Doing the math, that means that the average cap hit for Flacco in years 3 through 6 of his contract will be $24.75M per year. That's a huge percentage of one team's salary cap devoted to one player. Sure, it gives Baltimore cap relief for the next two seasons, but any big contracts signed during that time only tighten things in the long-term. Is it really smart to dedicate that much to a player who, when talking about consistent, regular season success, the word "if" always pops up? The Ravens did a good job of getting a deal done before having to use the franchise tag, but one has to wonder how much this deal will limit their ability to win Super Bowls in the near future. Well the cap is supposed to go up significantly in those years. That will alleviate some big contracts. Suggs 14 million dollar cap hit will probably be significantly less or way down. They front loaded contracts for the last two years knowing this was going to happen. That is why we are so close to the cap this year. WE front loaded rice, webb, ngata, and Yanda's contract. So those numbers will all drop significantly. That and then in the next two years Rices contract is going to be in the twilight and he will not get another big contract. Like I said suggs has a huge contract that I think we will not dare get close to again. That and Ozzie will find ways to find young players in the draft that will make them expendable. For instance upshaw is going to replace a high priced veteran with a whopiing salary of about 3 million dollars at its height. Chykie Brown makes Williams expensive. We will be ok with the cap hit. As to the weapons. I agree. If you are giving this man the keys then you better make sure he has some toys. I think he has some waiting in the wings though. I think Tommy Streeter could do great things, as well as Deandre hopkins. Ozzie has been on a run lately of finding good receivers outside of day one prospects. Flacco's regular season performance is always going to be debated. I think however that it was Cam Cameron. I have made it abundantly clear what I think about that man so I will not go there again. It is not coincidence I think that he gets fired and then Flacco starts going off. He did in the regular season the 2nd game after cameron left. Flacco played better defenses and made them look pedestrian when Cam was gone. I think Flacco is going to bring it this year. And being honest Flacco is boring. I am not sure money will change a guy that treats the SB like just another game even in his demeanor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted March 4, 2013 Well the cap is supposed to go up significantly in those years. That will alleviate some big contracts. Suggs 14 million dollar cap hit will probably be significantly less or way down. They front loaded contracts for the last two years knowing this was going to happen. That is why we are so close to the cap this year. WE front loaded rice, webb, ngata, and Yanda's contract. So those numbers will all drop significantly. As the salary cap goes up, so do contract numbers around the league. Year-to-year cap increases usually don't provide much cap relief so much as they account for inflation, both in the natural economic sense and in the football sense that contracts inevitably get bigger over time. That and then in the next two years Rices contract is going to be in the twilight and he will not get another big contract. Like I said suggs has a huge contract that I think we will not dare get close to again. That and Ozzie will find ways to find young players in the draft that will make them expendable. For instance upshaw is going to replace a high priced veteran with a whopiing salary of about 3 million dollars at its height. Chykie Brown makes Williams expensive. We will be ok with the cap hit. As to the weapons. I agree. If you are giving this man the keys then you better make sure he has some toys. I think he has some waiting in the wings though. I think Tommy Streeter could do great things, as well as Deandre hopkins. Ozzie has been on a run lately of finding good receivers outside of day one prospects. You make good points, Ngata, and we all know Newsome is a great GM, but these are all hypothetical points. There is a chance that Newsome, as skilled a drafter as he is, doesn't find the next Terrell Suggs, or the next Ray Lewis, or the next Ray Rice, in the coming years. If that happens, are you really confident in Joe Flacco being the best player on your team? Perhaps even more importantly, are the Ravens going to have the cap space to pay Torrey Smith--Flacco's go-to receiver--once his time comes? If not, Flacco is screwed for targets. If so, you have to think that could be another $10M per year, and ties up $35M of cap space to two players. Flacco's regular season performance is always going to be debated. I think however that it was Cam Cameron. I have made it abundantly clear what I think about that man so I will not go there again. It is not coincidence I think that he gets fired and then Flacco starts going off. He did in the regular season the 2nd game after cameron left. Flacco played better defenses and made them look pedestrian when Cam was gone. I think Flacco is going to bring it this year. And being honest Flacco is boring. I am not sure money will change a guy that treats the SB like just another game even in his demeanor. This is the biggest question mark of all--Flacco's performance without Cam Cameron. But again, it's a wild card. It's uncertain. To me, there's just way too much up in the air with this contract. I think if the Ravens are going to be perennial Super Bowl contenders over the next six years, they're going to need a lot of help, unless Flacco turns into a true elite quarterback, and I honestly don't like the odds of that happening. And I wasn't implying that Flacco is going to suck now that he's cashed his check, just pointing out that the majority of football players peak before they get their big contract, not after. And Flacco's been in the league five years. It's not like he's a young gun who's just coming into his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baltimoreravens 19 Posted March 4, 2013 Details on contract: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000146725/article/joe-flaccos-deal-with-baltimore-ravens-finalized-agent-says Glad it's only a $6.8 million cap hit this year - very good news for the potential of holding onto some of our guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vin+ 3,121 Posted April 2, 2015 Owner Steve Bisciotti said the Ravens would like to sign Joe Flacco to a new six-year contract after this season. Flacco, 30, has an obscene $28.55 million cap number in 2016. The Ravens will be more than happy to extend him and he should be thrilled to get a boatload of cash up front in a new deal. Flacco has never missed a game and never had a losing season during his seven-year NFL career, also posting 10 playoff wins during that span. He's a threat to record his first 4,000-yard season this year with pass-happy Marc Trestman in control of the offense. Source: ESPN.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vin+ 3,121 Posted February 20, 2016 ESPN Ravens reporter Jamison Hensley would be "surprised" if Joe Flacco's contract is not restructured before the start of free agency. Flacco is set to count $28.55 million against the cap this season and $31.15 million next year. GM Ozzie Newsome has said his goal is to build a team without restructuring the deal, and Flacco's agent said he has yet to talk with the team about restructuring. Still, the Ravens have holes to fill and not much room under the cap to operate. Something will likely happen. Source: ESPN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJORN 679 Posted February 20, 2016 That contract is/was such a train wreck... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vin+ 3,121 Posted March 2, 2016 Ravens signed QB Joe Flacco to a three-year, $66.4 million extension through 2021. The deal includes a whopping $40 million signing bonus. The Ravens had to do something about Flacco's gargantuan costs over the next two years, so it was necessary to extend his deal three more seasons in order to alleviate Flacco's $28.55 million and $31.15 million cap hits in 2016 and 2017. Flacco is now under contract through his age-36 season. The move gives GM Ozzie Newsome breathing room for free agency and could pave the way for Baltimore to re-sign G/T Kelechi Osemele to a big deal. Source: Adam Caplan on Twitter Whew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 3, 2016 Fun fact, that chart is also a measure of how elite they are. Except for Aaron Fraudgers of course. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
