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Rank these young QB's & next year predictions

  

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  1. 1. Who will perform the best in 2014?

    • Russell Wilson
    • Andrew Luck
    • Cam Newton
    • Nick Foles
    • Colin Kaepernick
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    • RG3
    • Ryan Tannehill
    • Andy Dalton (contract year)
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With some of the all time greats close to retirement and other elite QB's getting up there in age, it's a great situation for the NFL to have a surge of young QB talent in today's league. All of these young QBs have potential and have opened the eyes of today's NFL. It's also interesting that 7/8 of these young Qbs led their team into the playoffs.

 

Who do you guys believe will have the better season next year? (poll)

 

Who do you rank from best to least?

 

Here is some fun statistical information on these QB's performance & efficiency in different yard ranges.

 

 

 

 

Russell Wilson

 

1-10 yards: 137/189, 72.5%, 1246 yards, avg 7.1, 14 TDs, 4 Int, Qbr 105.8

 

11-20 yards: 41/73, 56.2%, 845 yards, avg 11.6, 5 TDs, 0 Int, Qbr 120.0

 

21-30 yards: 18/34, 52,9%, 568 yards, avg 16.7, 3 TDs, 2 Int, Qbr 103.2

 

31-40 yards: 5/14, 35.7%, 257 yards, avg 18.4, 3 TDs, 1 Int, Qbr 93.8

 

41+ yards: 1/8, 12.5%, 43 yards, avg 5.4, 1 TD, 2 Int, Qbr 49.5

 

Blitz throws: 97/155, 62.6%, 1245 yards, avg 8.0, 8 TDs, 3 Int, Qbr 96.8

 

Pressure throws: 47/112, 42%, 628 yards, avg 5.6, 4 TDs, 4 Int, Qbr 57.4

 

 

Andrew Luck

 

1-10 yards: 182/276, 65.9%, 1768 yards, avg 6.4, 10 TDs, 4 Int, Qbr 89.8

 

11-20 yards: 57/122, 46.7%, 1032 yards, avg 8.5, 5 TDs, 3 Int, Qbr 79.7

 

21-30 yards: 7/26, 26.9%, 241 yards, avg 9.3, 2 TDs, 1 Int, Qbr 75.3

 

31-40 yards: 4/11, 36.4%, 198 yards, avg 18.0, 1 TD, 1 Int, Qbr 76.9

 

41+ yards: 1/8, 12.5%, 58 yards, avg 7.3, 1 TD, 0 Int, Qbr 96.9

 

Blitz throwing: 99/171, 57.9%, 1208 yards, avg 7.1, 8 Tds, 3 Int, Qbr 88.1

 

Pressure throwing: 42/143, 34.1%, 485 yards, avg 3.9, 4 Tds, 2 Int, Qbr 51.0

 

Cam Newton

 

1-10 yards: 154/216, 71.3%, 1422 yards, avg 6.6, 8 Tds, 4 Int, Qbr 93.6

 

11-20 yards: 59/102, 57.8%, 977 yards, avg 9.6, 9 Tds, 4 Int, 103.3 Qbr

 

21-30 yards: 5/28, 17.9%, 203 yards, avg 7.3, 2 Tds, 3 Int, 41.5 Qbr

 

31-40 yards: 4/18, 22.2%, 162 yards, avg 9.0, 1 Td, 0 Int, 83.1 Qbr

 

41+ yards: 1/6, 16.7%, 47 yards, avg 7.8, 1 Td, 1 Int, 59.7 Qbr

 

Blitz throwing: 98/163, 60.1%, 1193 yards, avg 7.3, 9 Tds, 6 Int, 85.8 Qbr

 

Pressure throwing: 28/63, 44.4%, 275 yards, avg 4.4, 3 TDs, 2 Int, 59.9 Qbr

 

 

Nick Foles

 

1-10 yards: 77/114, 67.5%, 811 yards, avg 7.1, 9 Tds, 1 Int, 110.7 Qbr

 

11-20 yards: 45/72, 62.5%, 824 yards, avg 11.4, 5 Tds, 0 Int, 125.0 Qbr

 

21-30 yards: 10/24, 41.7%, 262 yards, avg 10.9, 4 Tds, 0 Int, 121.9 Qbr

 

31-40 yards: 4/12, 33.3%, 161 yards, avg 13.4, 2 Tds, 1 Int, 86.8 Qbr

 

41+ yards: 5/7, 71.4%, 269 yards, avg 38.4, 4 Tds, 0 Int, 153.3 Qbr :panic:

 

Blitz throwing: 53/82, 64.6%, 880 yards, avg 10.7, 6 Tds, 0 Int, 125.1 Qbr :panic:

 

Pressure throwing: 29/67, 43.3%, 407 yards, avg 6.1, 2 Tds, 0 Int, 73.4 Qbr

 

 

Colin Kaepernick

 

1-10 yards: 144/214, 67.3% 1412 yards, avg 6.6, 12 Tds, 4 Int, 96.6 Qbr

 

11-20 yards: 54/103, 52.4%, 1123 yards, avg 10.9, 5 Tds, 2 Int, 99.3 Qbr

 

21-30 yards: 8/28, 28.6%, 249 yards, avg 8.9, 0 Tds, 2 Int, 34.4 Qbr

 

31-40 yards: 3/7, 42.9%, 136 yards, avg 19.4, 2 Tds, 0 Int, 129.5 Qbr

 

41+ yards: 1/4, 25%, 52 yards, avg 13.0, 1 Td, 0 Int, 118.8 Qbr

 

Blitz throws: 79/148, 53.4%, 1207 yards, avg 8.2, 11 Tds, 1 Int, 102.5 Qbr :panic:

 

Pressure throws: 23/63, 36.5%, 387 yards, avg 6.1, 2 Tds, 0 Int, 68.7 Qbr

 

 

RG3

 

1-10 yards: 167/251, 66.5%, 1558 yards, avg 6.2, 10 Tds, 5 int, 88.4 Qbr

 

11-20 yards: 42/85, 49.4%, 830 yards, avg 9.8, 1 Td, 4 int, 68.3 Qbr

 

21-30 yards: 8/25, 32.0%, 255 yards, avg 10.2, 2 Tds, 3 int, 58.3 Qbr

 

31-40 yards: 1/4, 25.0%, 38 yards, avg 9.5, 0 Td, 0 int, 66.7 Qbr

 

41+ yards: 2/12, 16.7%, 86 yards, avg 7.2, 2 Tds, 0 int, 96.5 Qbr

 

Blitz throws: 75/139, 54.0%, 951 yards, avg 6.8, 4 Tds, 3 Int, 76.2 Qbr

 

Pressure throws: 35/90, 38.9%, 369 yards, avg 4.1, 3 Tds, 4 Int, 44.2 Qbr

 

 

Ryan Tannehill

 

1-10 yards: 207/292, 70.9%, 1778 yards, avg 6.1, 17 Tds, 3 int, 101.7 Qbr

 

11-20 yards: 72/143, 50.3%, 1313 yards, avg 9.2, 2 Tds, 10 int, 57.8 Qbr

 

21-30 yards: 4/22, 18.2%, 125 yards, avg 5.7, 0 Td, 2 int, 12.9 Qbr

 

31-40 yards: 4/17, 23.5%, 166 yards, avg 9.8, 1 Td, 0 int, 87.4 Qbr

 

41+ yards: 3/15, 20.0%, 150 yards, avg 10.6, 1 Td, 2 int, 53.9 Qbr

 

Blitz throws: 98/169, 58.0%, 1317 yards, avg 7.8, 7 Tds, 5 int, 84.3 Qbr

 

Pressure throws: 32/91, 35.2%, 480 yards, avg 5.3, 3 Tds, 7 int, 32.3 Qbr

 

 

Andy Dalton

 

1-10 yards: 181/277, 65.3%, 1749 yards, avg 6.3, 14 Tds, 10 int, 84.7 Qbr

 

11-20 yards: 58/111, 52.3%, 1052 yards, avg 9.5, 10 Tds, 8 int, 85.1 Qbr

 

21-30 yards: 9/33, 27.3%, 295 yards, avg 8.9, 3 Tds, 1 int, 82.0 Qbr

 

31-40 yards: 4/19, 21.1%, 190 yards, avg 10.0, 2 Tds, 1 int, 81.9 Qbr

 

41+ yards: 5/9, 55.6%, 253 yards, avg 28.1, 2 Tds, 0 int, 140.1 Qbr :panic: (Oh yeah, A.J Green)

 

Blitz throws: 111/186, 59.7%, 1414 yards, avg 7.6, 13 Tds, 7 int, 91.1 Qbr

 

Pressure throws: 16/51, 31.4%, 203 yards, avg 4.0, 1 Td, 0 int, 51.4 Qbr

 

 

 

As for my list, I ranked these Qb's with an eye test and impact / effectiveness while factoring in circumstances of the Qbs team.

 

 

1. :Colts: Andrew Luck - I'm still putting down Luck as the #1 young QB in the league. He's definitely the most talented passer and throws some of the most beautiful aerial balls I've seen in a long time. I love his mobility and have seen him make some outstanding plays under pressure. He's also very strong in the pocket and can break some tackles. I'm glad his running attack got slightly better (even though ranking 20th in the league) but he still carries this offense. Luck also orchestrated some great games while beating some premiere elite playoff teams. Seahawks, 49ers, Broncos (AFC elite lol). Luck is still the best in my opinion and my sentiments are in this old thread. http://www.thegridironpalace.com/forums/index.php?/topic/65876-lets-put-this-to-bed-give-me-andrew-luck/

 

2. :panthers: Cam Newton - Cam is one of the most explosive QBs in the league. Definitely one of the most versatile threats this league has. Outside of an aging Steve Smith, he doesn't have many weapons but he still has to be accounted for because he's a dynamic playmaker through the air and ground. If you give Cam the luxury of a running attack (excluding himself), he gets even more lethal.

 

3. :Seahawks: Russell Wilson - Watching Russell Wilson is just amazing at times. Most people will have him as their #1 guy and I wouldn't argue. Wilson is just in the perfect situation in my opinion. He has the #1 defense in the league in yards allowed per game, points per game AND turnovers. That defense gets him the ball back a lot. Not to mention he has an elite RB at his disposal. However, he is doing everything that is asked of him and you can't ask for anything more. Their offense is very efficient and especially when they get the ball back from a turnover which is HUGE. Wilson is one of the most elusive mobile QBs in the league and he makes outstanding plays running and throwing. He's a big time play maker and he executes very well. I can't take anything away from that but I won't ignore the circumstances of him being on an all around great team. He's also very mentally tough. But one of the better qualities I like about Wilson, he's an awesome decision maker; one of the best out of this group and he makes big time plays when his team needs it which is why he's a good QB.

 

4. :Eagles: Nick Foles - I'm excited to see Foles do as well as he did this year considering I've been calling his number since his rookie preseason. He originally lost the QB competition in the offseason but when he got his 2nd opportunity, he took it and ran with it. Foles demonstrated great decision making, pocket awareness, good progression reads, good mobility and able to throw on the run. Foles had an amazing stretch this past season. His real test will be next year with defenses having tape on him and playing all 16 games. I think Foles will have an amazing season next year leading our offense. If Foles can play even remotely close to last season, he moves up on this list.

 

5. :Redskins: RG3 - I'm taking RG3 over Colin Kaepernick and a healthy RG3 moves up on this list. I feel as though they allowed RG3 to play a little too early before he was ready but he still wind up playing well for the most part. His accuracy was suspect at times as well as his throwing mechanics, but it appeared as though he could not plant his leg firmly at times to get a good zip on his throw. He didn't play bad down the stretch. His team in general was just trash especially his defense which continually dug a deep hole for the offense to dig out. However, if RG3 can't back healthy, I can see him dropping quite a bit.

 

6. :49ers: Colin Kaepernick - It feels wrong having him down this low because he is one of the most dynamic QBs on this list. His big play making ability is insane however, majority of it comes from the ground. His running ability dictates his game more than all the other QB's on this list in my opinion. He's made some great throws, straight zip line passes, but he's very inconsistent and his accuracy comes into question more than the rest of these guys. He needs to string together more consistency with his passing game. Even with this said, he is one of the most dangerous QBs on this list. You are weary going against Kaepernick on gameday.

 

7. :Bengals: Andy Dalton - His stat line isn't all that bad but I strongly believe A.J Green carries him miles. I also believe Dalton is one of the issues holding this team back from being deep playoff contenders. I like the Bengals and they are a very young and talented team that is prime to make a run if they can get some stable production out of the QB position in the playoffs. I've seen Dalton be indecisive / passive and not pull the trigger when he should and miss out on big plays in big moments. Then afterwards he would make an even worse decision by throwing a bad pass for an interception. If he can get better with his decision making, his game definitely improves a lot. His ceiling could be pretty good if he fixes that and the Bengals will directly benefit and more then likely win some playoff games. Hopefully Dalton can fair better in Hue Jackson's system because Jay Gruden's was definitely suspect. If he can break away from bad decisions, he can move a few spots up this list. He has the talent

 

8. . :dolphins: Ryan Tannehill - Despite the numbers and record, I really like what I saw from Tannehill this year. Tannehill put on some good games this year. I saw some really good flashes from him. Some great throws and put on some good games against some playoff teams. However, Tannehill has one of the worst offensive lines in the league (sacked the most) and their running game left more to be desire. He is a more traditional QB and I think if they solidify some offensive pieces around him with more support, his game rises even higher.

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Wilson 1A

Luck 1B

 

Everyone else.

 

Edit: Define better season? Let's say the Seahawks win 3-4 more games than Indy and Wilson has a better W-L record and QB rating, but say Luck has more passing yards, passing touchdowns, and also throws more pics? How do you determine overall value?

 

I think Wilson will provide more overall value to his team than Luck will, but I'm expecting Luck to score more fantasy points and achieve the "sexier" stats.

 

In conclusion, I just think there are too many factors at play to determine which of the two quarterbacks has had the better season to the point where we will once again have a split jury.

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I'm predicting RG3 as the best performer in 2014. It's a risky pick but I do think he will revert back to form with a full offseason and a new coaching staff in place. I know for a fact that RG3 was rushed back too soon and for a 2nd year QB, its tough to just come back from an ACL injury and walk into the regular season with virtually no offseason reps. We are one year removed from him carrying Washington to the playoffs. One thing I will say though is that he does need to play it more safe as a ball carrier in order to stay on the field.

 

My Current Rankings:

1. Luck

2. Wilson

3. Cam

4. RG3

5. Foles

6. Kaepernick

7. Tannehill

8. Dalton

 

Top 5 is pretty interchangeable, IMO.

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I'm predicting RG3 as the best performer in 2014. It's a risky pick but I do think he will revert back to form with a full offseason and a new coaching staff in place. I know for a fact that RG3 was rushed back too soon and for a 2nd year QB, its tough to just come back from an ACL injury and walk into the regular season with virtually no offseason reps. We are one year removed from him carrying Washington to the playoffs. One thing I will say though is that he does need to play it more safe as a ball carrier in order to stay on the field.

 

My Current Rankings:

1. Luck

2. Wilson

3. Cam

4. RG3

5. Foles

6. Kaepernick

7. Tannehill

8. Dalton

 

Top 5 is pretty interchangeable, IMO.

 

Your prediction chances have just increased...lol.

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1. Andrew Luck :Colts: I don't believe that any of these guys will touch him as far as passing yards and passing TDs. I think both guys in my 2-way tie for second will have him beat in wins.

 

2a. Russell Wilson :Seahawks: He won't put up flashy numbers, but when he is required to make a big play to win games he will, that's what he does.

 

2b. Nick Foles :Eagles: He may be my favorite young QB, and I curse Elway every day for passing him over to take Rottweiler. Losing Jackson is cause for concern in my opinion though, I'll have to see what kind of passing offense they have without him taking attention.

 

3. Robert Griffin Number 3 :Redskins: RG3 is poised for a big year in my opinion. It all of course depends on how well he meshes with Jay Gruden. I like Jay's offensive mind and think if he and be creative with Garcon and Jackson and they both can stay healthy, the NFC East is going to look completely different this year. Another thing to watch: How the exit of Shanny impacts Alfred Morris, because that whole offense should run through him.

 

4. Cam Newton :panthers: I kind of feel this is a make or break year for Cam. Unfortunately, they've left him with virtually zero offensive talent, and were completely stale in free agency. It will ultimately be the Cam show in Carolina, and I'm interested to see if he's up to the test.

 

 

5. Ryan Tannyhill :dolphins: I'm a big believer in Tanny, and think the signing of Branden Albert will help him immensely. Also, I think he's really going to enjoy his new emergency outlet in Knowshon, I just hope my boy can stay healthy another season.

 

6. Andy Dalton :Bengals: I feel he's in the same boat as Cam, except that Andy's got some of the best weapons in the game at his disposal. If he continues to struggle through December and January this year, I think it's time for the Bengals to move on.

 

7. Colin Kaepernick :49ers: I am not a believer in Kaep... I don't think he can be consistently accurate well enough to compete in big games. His athleticism, which is amazing, will only get him so far while he Tebows balls into the dirt and Lorenzons balls over peoples heads. He's on one of the best teams in the league behind one of the best o-line in the game. He should be better.

 

Wild Card - EJ Manuel :Bills: I don't think EJ is as bad as advertised or analysed. They need to bolster that offensive line and really get the backfield going, and I think EJ will show miles of improvement.

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5. Ryan Tannyhill :dolphins: I'm a big believer in Tanny, and think the signing of Branden Albert will help him immensely. Also, I think he's really going to enjoy his new emergency outlet in Knowshon, I just hope my boy can stay healthy another season.

 

 

Dude has the worst deep ball I've ever seen lol

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I'm very interested to see how Foles does in his sophomore campaign.

 

I will admit, I really hated him as a draft prospect. I mean I thought he was likely to not even make it out of training camp for whatever team drafted him. It's very refreshing to see a guy work his way through and earn his position. It will remain to be seen how the loss of Jackson alters his options this year. Philly lost a guy who keeps DCs up at night. That's a hard attribute to replace. That and he will have to go through and adapt to the league's changing of their defense now that there is a book on Foles. It's one of those hurdles every young emerging QB has to surmount. I expect he'll be able to do that though.

 

I'd have to put Newton/Wilson/Luck up there sharing the #1 spot. Although I'd put Foles in that company immediately should he show his ability to adapt this year. These aforementioned three have already cleared that hurdle and are on their way to forcing opponents to rewrite how they defend them. Cam's decision making and leadership ability took an enormous leap this past year. He's becoming more than just an athlete at QB. Honestly, I could make the case for Cam being the straight up #1 if I were to factor in the dumpster fire that is his receiving corps. That team really needs like 4 WRs from this years' draft.

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1. Andrew Luck - He's just going to keep getting better and better. The addition of Hakeem Nicks is going to elevate Luck even more, we're talking about two pretty solid receivers at his helms now (Nicks & Hilton). Actually, I'll even go as far as saying that he's going to be in the top 5 of the league in terms of quarterbacks as a whole this coming season.

 

2. RG3 - Gotta believe he is finally 100% and confident in his legs again. The addition of Jackson should open up the field quite a bit more.

 

3. Russel Wilson - There won't be any fall off here or any gain. I think we see the same Seahawks offense we saw last season, Wilson will produce when he needs to but he's going to continue to ride the coat tails of Marshawn Lynch.

 

4. Cam Newton - Let's get this straight, Cam Newton is a stud quarterback. Who's he got to throw the ball to though? No one.

 

5. Nick Foles - I feel like we saw a lot from Foles from last season that we should see this season. He's careful with the football,but he isn't afraid to try and make a play. Chip Kelly is going to tailor the Eagles offense for Foles to succeed, he's going to be good this year.

 

6. Colin Kaepernick - Mike Vick 2 isn't as good as people think he is. Everyone is going to realize it soon. He's not bad, but he could certainly be much better. I think he does less this year than he did last.\

 

7. Andy Dalton - The pressure is on for Dalton, I think he flops. If you can't put up big numbers and wins with the likes of AJ Green at receiver, there are issues.

 

8. Ryan Tannehill - The Dolphins simply won't give Tannehill the tools he needs or the protection he wants. He's going to be at the end of the line amongst this group of quarterbacks.

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RGIII will go back to being the best of the bunch this upcoming season. :yep:

With the weapons he has at his disposal, that wouldn't completely shock I don't think. Obviously health is the key here.

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Below are the 2013 stats of two of the young QBs listed in the poll

343 570 60.2 3,822 6.71 73 23 9 32 87.0 239

274 456 60.1 3,203 7.02 62 16 12 38 82.2 246

 

One of these QBs is considered to have had a really good year and be poised for greatness and the other is perceived to have played badly and have big question marks about his future. Yet the raw numbers look pretty similar.

 

If you had not already guessed the top numbers are Lucks and the second set are RGIIIs. RGIII WAS inconsistent last year and his injury (and the brace) clearly caused him problems. But still (in 13 games) he put up numbers that were pretty decent. Not all world like his rookie year but decent. It took Eli Manning about 5 years to put together a season with similar passing stats.

 

Any QB needs a team around him to be successful and last year in Washington it was just a mess. Add in the injury and with the circus around him (which he was a part of to an extent to be fair) RGIII still put together a decent year in terms of the raw numbers.

 

Stats don't tell the full story but I feel pretty good about RGIII being one of the better QBs in the NFL this year with the weapons around him if he can stay healthy and if Gruden can build the offense around what he has.

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I can see RG3 rebounding and maybe leading the Skins to 7-9 or 8-8. But being better than all of Luck, Wilson, and Newton? Please. The way he played that first year, holding onto the ball forever, taking unnecessary hits. He's come out and said on record before that he can't fight back his own instincts to fight for every yard. He will not have the best season out of all these quarterbacks at any point in time.

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He will not have the best season out of all these quarterbacks at any point in time.

 

He already has to this point. His rookie year was historic in terms of both the stats and how he led his team.

 

How he 'bounces back' from a more average year last year remains to be seen of course.

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RG3's rookie season was not the best of any of these QBs lol.

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RG3's rookie season was not the best of any of these QBs lol.

Really?

 

Now I know stats are not the be and end all - but let's just remember what RGIIIs rookie year was.

 

65.6% completions, 3200 passing yards, 8.14 average, 20 TDs and only 5 INTs for a 102.4 QB rating. Add on 815 yards rushing and 7 rushing TDs. Plus he led a franchise which had not sniffed a winning season for an age to a Division title and the playoffs winning the Rookie of the Year honors.

 

Which QB from this list do you think has had a better season than that?

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While I don't agree that Rg3 is the best out of the QBs drafted from his class, it's hard to argue that he didn't have one of the best seasons.

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I can see RG3 rebounding and maybe leading the Skins to 7-9 or 8-8. But being better than all of Luck, Wilson, and Newton? Please. The way he played that first year, holding onto the ball forever, taking unnecessary hits. He's come out and said on record before that he can't fight back his own instincts to fight for every yard. He will not have the best season out of all these quarterbacks at any point in time.

 

I mean, its not like he was recovering last season from completely destroying his right knee or anything...

 

Why is it so outlandish for him to say that RGIII could outperform all three? Including Wilson's most recent season, how many years do all those guys have that are better then the one RGIII had his rookie season?

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RG3's rookie year in a vacuum was among the elite QB's last year. Not just as a runner, but as a passer as well. I'm not prepared to throw the man off a cliff because his team is dysfunctional and despite all that happened, his sophomore numbers were closer to Andrew Luck's than Luck's were to Wilson.

 

Anyway, here's my list.

 

1. Russell Wilson. If this isn't plainly obvious I'm not sure what games you are watching. He has everything you want in a QB, and his skills and numbers can only improve as his team gets more talent.

 

2. Colin Kaepernick. May be a surprise pick, but the dude flat out destroys the Packers, and his play style is a boon against the ridiculous defenses in the NFC West. Only having two legitimate options to throw to really put a hamper in his game, but he's still young and will have Crabtree to rely on next year.

 

3. Nick Foles. I want to believe last year was not a fluke. I'm sure the INT number will regress a little, but he still put up incredibly numbers for a short season. Now to see if he keeps it up with game film on him and if he can endure the entire season.

 

4. Robert Griffin the Third, First of his name, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm.

There is a place for him in this league. Mike Shanahan made a huge mistake benching him last year, here's hoping Gruden has it figured out that RG3 is a once in a lifetime talent. Then again, this is washington.

 

5. Cam Newton. Carolina is strikingly like Old Philadelphia. Strong veteran leaders on defense, combined with a QB who often has to do it on his own. Newton does a lot of work, but the young QB's in the league right now are insanely good.

 

6. Andrew Luck. Consistency is a thing young Andrew lacks. Given the talent he has, he should be doing more than barely ekeing out victories against teams. The Colts have developed a lot of talent on offense, and it's not impressing as much as it should. There's still time for Luck to turn it around, so this spot is only temporary.

 

7. Andy Dalton. Please play better in the playoffs. If the Bengals had any of the other 6 guys ahead of them, they would have won a playoff game by now. Maybe even seen a super bowl appearance. Talent wise the Bengals are the best team in the AFC, but the QB drags them down a lot.

 

8. Ryan Tannehill. I am so sorry Miami ruined your young career dude. I can see him floating around the league as a journeyman QB for a long time though. Think Jeff Garcia, or Jon Kitna. He does have high points, but his deep ball is a terror to behold.

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6. Andrew Luck. Consistency is a thing young Andrew lacks. Given the talent he has, he should be doing more than barely ekeing out victories against teams. The Colts have developed a lot of talent on offense, and it's not impressing as much as it should. There's still time for Luck to turn it around, so this spot is only temporary.

 

Luck only #6? Blasphemy :troll:. I don't see how consistency was a factor for Luck this past season. If anyone was inconsistent, it was Kaepernick who is #2 on your list. Luck had some stellar games and did more then eke out some wins. Luck beat the 3 best teams in the NFL this season. Knocking off the undefeated Broncos, 49ers and the Seahawks (which was one of the best games of the year). As far as his talent on offense, let's not forget that that Reggie Wayne got hurt. He was left with T.Y Hilton (who played well), Coby Fleener, and a free agency bust Darius Heyward-Bay. Kap lost his star wide out as well in Crabtree having Anquan Boldin, Vernon Davis and Bruce Miller. I think it's fair to say that Kap still had the better receiving core and I can easily say that Luck was more consistent and more impressive than Kap was without his star guy. I don't see this needed turn around that you are talking about. He improved from last year throwing half as many pics. However, the one knock Luck does have is his pics in the playoffs. Both QBs threw the games away though.

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And Luck got destroyed by the Rams, Cards and Pats in the same year. Having only Boldin and Davis is much worse than having Reggie Wayne for half a season, and Hilton, Fleener and Donald Brown for the rest. Besides Kaep still played much better than Luck did last year, despite inconsistency.

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And Luck got destroyed by the Rams, Cards and Pats in the same year. Having only Boldin and Davis is much worse than having Reggie Wayne for half a season, and Hilton, Fleener and Donald Brown for the rest. Besides Kaep still played much better than Luck did last year, despite inconsistency.

 

Reggie Wayne played 2 more games than Crabtree :shrug:. No way is Hilton and Fleener better than Boldin and Vernon Davis; even including Donald Brown and his 28 receptions. Seems as though you are down playing the talent of the teams you're saying Luck got destroyed by. No excuses for him to lose but the Cards and the Pats are good teams; 10+ win teams. Especially Belichick in the playoffs.The Rams stoned Luck but played tougher football in general this year. No excuses, he still got stoned. Kap got stoned by the Seahawks, Colts, and Panthers failing to put a single point on the board. Not only that, Kap had 10 games for less then 200 yards; 1 game less then 100 yards. Talking about inconsistencies. I'd like to see a reasonable argument how Kap played much better than Luck did last season.

 

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Kaep has less yards because he throws less than Luck does, Averaging 26 throws a game is quite different from 35.6 throws a game. And despite having 154 less throws on the season, he was only 625 yards behind Luck's mark in the regular season. This says Kaep was getting more out of his attempts than Luck was. The one thing that may put Luck ahead was the low amount of INT's he had on the year. But considering he has to play 6 cupcakes in his divisional games, his numbers aren't astounding as Kaeps, who has to deal with the Rams, Seahawks, and Cardinals 6 times a year.

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Didn't make a list but I voted Foles because homer.

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