Browns Fan Urinates On Art Modells Grave

[Bangy 19]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11253861/cleveland-browns-fan-urinates-late-baltimore-ravens-owner-art-modell-grave

 

A Cleveland Browns fan posted a video on YouTube showing himself urinating beside Art Modell's grave in Pikesville, Maryland.

The unidentified man in the video, titled "Browns Fan 'Pays Respects' to Modell," arrives at the gravesite dressed in a Baltimore Ravens Ed Reed jersey.

He then pulls it off to reveal a Browns Lyle Alzado No. 77 jersey and apparently urinates on Modell's grave out of the bottom of his pants leg using a catheter.

Afterward, he speaks to the camera.

"You know, Art, when you ... tried to kill the Cleveland Brownie, you didn't do so good, the Browns fans wouldn't let you, you piece of s---," he says. "I'm in rat land, and I'm going to use the words you used a few years ago.

"As far as pissing on your grave, I had no choice."

When Modell moved the team to Baltimore in 1996, he said he had "no choice."

The video has received more than 10,000 hits. A spokeswoman for the Druid Ridge Cemetery toldThe Baltimore Sun that the Browns fan's decision to urinate beside Modell's grave was "disappointing and disrespectful."

Police did not immediately respond to the paper on the situation and its legality.

Modell died in 2012.

It doesn't matter if you have a vendetta against the guy because he moved the team, this is just damn right disrespectful to the guy. Seriously hope he is caught and punished.

Stay classy Brown's fan, stay classy

Edited July 24, 2014 by Arz

[Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014]

If someone didn't garner respect when he was alive, he shouldn't command it in death. Modell was a piece of shit and he did Cleveland dirty. Loyalty to one's team may be a foreign concept to you, but I imagine if someone came and took your prissy soccer team you'd want to piss on a grave, too.

[Bangy 19]

Tbh he may have been a piece of shit because of what happened with Cleveland and the move to Baltimore but come on man. It doesn't matter if he didn't deserve respect when alive, to do this on a grave is just downright disgraceful and because it happened over a football matter shows what a lowlife piece of shit this guy is.

 

Ha in regards to the soccer thing fortunately for that relocation are pretty much non-exsistant, very rarely does that happen but if it did I damn sure wouldn't do something like this.

[blotsfan 2,112]

Someone moves the Bills, I'll piss all over their grave.

[Phins4life 271]

Dude can rot. He pissed on a grave over a game. There's a difference between being a bitter fan and just being an asshole with fucked up priorities.

[CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025]

He pissed on a grave over a game. There's a difference between being a bitter fan and just being an asshole with fucked up priorities.

 

Perspective

 

We can talk about how Modell left town on their fans etc. etc. doesn't change the fact that this guy is a loser. I won't say he "can rot" because people do dumb shit and make mistakes that aren't the totality of our being all the time. But he's definitely a loser at this point.

Edited July 25, 2014 by CampinWithGoatSampson

[Dutch 874]

Life and death is much bigger than this game.

[FartWaffles 1,857]

Someone moves the Bills, I'll piss all over their grave.

You should just start stocking up on your piss right now, so you'll be ready when Jon Bon Jovi is six feet under.

[blotsfan 2,112]

Nah man, Terry Pegula is our savior.

 

Please

[KempBolt 498]

If someone didn't garner respect when he was alive, he shouldn't command it in death. Modell was a piece of shit and he did Cleveland dirty. Loyalty to one's team may be a foreign concept to you, but I imagine if someone came and took your prissy soccer team you'd want to piss on a grave, too.

 

So the proper way to get back at him for being a POS and dirty while alive is to be a dirty POS and piss on his grave after he's dead? Right...

[Bangy 19]

Someone moves the Bills, I'll piss all over their grave.

I am hoping this is just a joke because if not its one of the most moronic things I've seen on these boards lol.

 

 

Why should the family of the owner has to suffer because because of a decision over football? Sorry but if you was in that situation as a family member you'd bust a nut. Perspective gentlemen.

[RazorStar 4,025]

 

So the proper way to get back at him for being a POS and dirty while alive is to be a dirty POS and piss on his grave after he's dead? Right...

 

Still better than digging up the grave, fucking the corpse in the asshole and then pissing on it. >_>

[Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014]

So the proper way to get back at him for being a POS and dirty while alive is to be a dirty POS and piss on his grave after he's dead? Right...

Sure? It's your opinion that pissing on a grave of a worthless person makes him a piece of shit. The urine served no purpose but to send a message, which he succeeded in doing.

 

The urine ended up on the grass well above the casket that the man's rotting corpse resides in. I'm sure he and his family are suffering miserably, lmao. Bodies go through much worse during autopsies, embalming, and cremation.

 

It's amusing that urinating in the general vicinity of a dead body is the height of disrespect, but lying to an entire city by promising not to move the one thing they care about most, then moving and leaving them with nothing for three years, and forcing them to watch the team that should've been theirs win the Super Bowl are all kosher, seeing as the guy's dead.

[SteVo+ 3,702]

I don't want to be a full participant in this debate but this...

 

If someone didn't garner respect when he was alive, he shouldn't command it in death.

 

...is 100% accurate.

[Phins4life 271]

 

Still better than digging up the grave, fucking the corpse in the asshole and then pissing on it. >_>

 

Razor, you're a sick sumbitch. And that's why you're awesome.

[KempBolt 498]

Sure? It's your opinion that pissing on a grave of a worthless person makes him a piece of shit. The urine served no purpose but to send a message, which he succeeded in doing.

 

The urine ended up on the grass well above the casket that the man's rotting corpse resides in. I'm sure he and his family are suffering miserably, lmao. Bodies go through much worse during autopsies, embalming, and cremation.

 

It's amusing that urinating in the general vicinity of a dead body is the height of disrespect, but lying to an entire city by promising not to move the one thing they care about most, then moving and leaving them with nothing for three years, and forcing them to watch the team that should've been theirs win the Super Bowl are all kosher, seeing as the guy's dead.

It's your opinion that Modell was a dirty POS in the first place.

[oochymp 2,393]

there's a whole lot of space between actively respecting and actively disrespecting, is it too much to ask that people at least stay in that area? put more concretely, nobody's asking Browns fans to put flowers on Modell's grave

[seanbrock 1,684]

At the end of the day wtf does it really matter? I'm sure him and his family still receive hate mail and death threats and if not they probably have plenty of them from back in the day. The guy knew what he was doing. He had to know people would be pissed and hate him forever. He signed up for shit like this when he moved the Browns. It's a shame that his family has to deal with it too, but other than that I don't care.

[Phins4life 271]

At the end of the day wtf does it really matter? I'm sure him and his family still receive hate mail and death threats and if not they probably have plenty of them from back in the day. The guy knew what he was doing. He had to know people would be pissed and hate him forever. He signed up for shit like this when he moved the Browns. It's a shame that his family has to deal with it too, but other than that I don't care.

 

You can't be serious. Soldiers sign up for being shot at. Doctors sign up for knowing they will not be able to save everyone. Businessmen aren't signing up for having their grave disrespected by making a business decision. To even hint that there is some kind of logical correlation there baffles me.

[Bangy 19]

At the end of the day wtf does it really matter? I'm sure him and his family still receive hate mail and death threats and if not they probably have plenty of them from back in the day. The guy knew what he was doing. He had to know people would be pissed and hate him forever. He signed up for shit like this when he moved the Browns. It's a shame that his family has to deal with it too, but other than that I don't care.

So what you're saying is that because the business decision was regarding football and it was done in a shit way it's totally fine to desecrate his grave?

 

That's some bullshit sean lol. Had this been a non football realted incident there would be uproar pure and simple. No matter if the guy was a prick, the action wither it was on the grass or in the casket (still on the area of his grave) is a disgusting action.

[Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014]

You can't be serious. Soldiers sign up for being shot at. Doctors sign up for knowing they will not be able to save everyone. Businessmen aren't signing up for having their grave disrespected by making a business decision. To even hint that there is some kind of logical correlation there baffles me.

He promised an entire city that he would not move the team that had been there since the '40s, waited until they had a funding deal passed, and then bolted while trying to take the Browns history with him and leaving Cleveland without a team for 3 years. He signed up for the vitriol he's experienced when his "business decision" broke a promise to and shit on the lives of an already loathsome city.

 

And, to reiterate, "If someone didn't garner respect when he was alive, he shouldn't command it in death." Why should a grave of any shit person be held in such high regard? Would you be in an uproar over some piss on the grave of the guy that made a "business decision" by promising not to close a factory, then bolting and fucking over hundreds of people? Would you hold sacred the hallowed ground at the grave of a sex offender?

 

It's also hilarious that you losers are wishing death on a grave-pisser and calling him worthless while in the same breath defending the actions of a self-serving douche, simply because he's dead. The Cleveland fan is guilty of a cathartic experience and a moronic video, while Modell is guilty of being a dishonest, slimy fuck (none of this touches on his shady business tactics throughout the course of his career, prior to the move).

[Phins4life 271]

He promised an entire city that he would not move the team that had been there since the '40s, waited until they had a funding deal passed, and then bolted while trying to take the Browns history with him and leaving Cleveland without a team for 3 years. He signed up for the vitriol he's experienced when his "business decision" broke a promise to and shit on the lives of an already loathsome city.And, to reiterate, "If someone didn't garner respect when he was alive, he shouldn't command it in death." Why should a grave of any shit person be held in such high regard? Would you be in an uproar over some piss on the grave of the guy that made a "business decision" by promising not to close a factory, then bolting and fucking over hundreds of people? Would you hold sacred the hallowed ground at the grave of a sex offender?It's also hilarious that you losers are wishing death on a grave-pisser and calling him worthless while in the same breath defending the actions of a self-serving douche, simply because he's dead. The Cleveland fan is guilty of a cathartic experience and a moronic video, while Modell is guilty of being a dishonest, slimy fuck (none of this touches on his shady business tactics throughout the course of his career, prior to the move).

The Browns were a business, run on a business model. An owner of a team has the right to invest in and move a franchise as he pleases. It isn't an owner's fault if an entire fan base deluded itself into believing it is more important than the money it pours into that business. The fanatical sense of entitlement fans like the one in the video have is not an owner's problem or responsibility.

 

For the record making shady business deals and being a sex offender fall into slightly different sections of the morality scale in my book, but maybe that's just me. So I wasn't defending the actions of Modell nearly as much as I was defending the basic dignity I feel most people are entitled to in death. Its a matter of common decency and perspective to me. If it were my grandfather who's grave was pissed on, I would be outraged. So I can imagine thats how his family must feel about it. At the very least the fan could have considered that consequence if nothing else. Do they deserve his delusional wrath as well? If thinking this way makes me a loser then so be it.

Edited July 27, 2014 by Phins4life

[oochymp 2,393]

And, to reiterate, "If someone didn't garner respect when he was alive, he shouldn't command it in death." Why should a grave of any shit person be held in such high regard? Would you be in an uproar over some piss on the grave of the guy that made a "business decision" by promising not to close a factory, then bolting and fucking over hundreds of people? Would you hold sacred the hallowed ground at the grave of a sex offender?

as I said above (or on the previous page) nobody's asking anyone to put flowers on Modell's grave, we're just asking for people to refrain from active disrespect, you seem to regard active respect and active disrespect as coterminous, so I'm curious, when you walk by a random person on the street and they don't acknowledge your presence do you view that as them giving you respect or as them disrespecting you?

[Bucman 891]

Well they caught the guy.

[CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025]

Damn I didn't notice how this topic blew up. But yeah I maintain my stance. Modell obviously fucked over a city and forced the move with his demands and should be viewed as the shady businessman who did so. Meanwhile the dude pissing on his grave is just an idiot I'm not glad at 'em, I'm not mad at 'em but I think he's a dummy for sure.