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Jameis Winston's side of the story

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The following is the statement Jameis Winston provided former Florida Supreme Court justice Major Harding as part of a Florida State State code of conduct hearing that concluded Tuesday. The statement was obtained by USA TODAY Sports, and the name of the woman who has accused Winston of sexually assaulting her has been redacted. It includes graphic sexual descriptions.

 

This statement contains my best recollection of my involvement with (NAME REDACTED). I apologize for the graphic nature of the matters I describe, but given the false accusations against me it is important to describe fully and accurately my interaction with (NAME REDACTED) to demonstrate that she willingly engaged in multiple consensual sexual acts with me with her full knowledge and consent. (NAME REDACTED) is lying about me. I have no choice but to tell the truth about her.

 

I did not rape or sexually assault (NAME REDACTED). I did not create a hostile, intimidating or offensive environment in the short period of time that we were together. (NAME REDACTED) had the capacity to consent to having sex with me and she repeatedly did so by her conduct and her verbal expressions. I never used physical violence, threats, or other coercive means towards (NAME REDACTED). Finally, I never endangered (NAME REDACTED) health, safety, or well-being.

 

In the late evening of December 6, 2012 or the early morning of December 7, 2012, Chris Casher, Ron Darby, and I arrived at Potbelly's. Many of my teammates were also at Potbelly's. At some point, I noticed an attractive girl dancing on the dance floor. A few teammates and I started dancing as well and I worked my way over to this girl and made small talk with her as we started dancing together. I asked her for her name and she asked me for mine. I told her my name. She said her name was "(NAME REDACTED)." To the best of my recollection, (NAME REDACTED) and I danced together for approximately 10 minutes. When we finished dancing, we continued to talk and I asked (NAME REDACTED) for her telephone number. It was loud in Potbelly's, so, rather than yelling her telephone number at me, (NAME REDACTED) took my cellular phone and entered her telephone number into my phone.

 

After (NAME REDACTED) entered her telephone number into my cell phone, we talked some more. I mentioned something about staying in touch or getting together later and then I went to mingle with my friends. Chris saw me talking to (NAME REDACTED) at the bar and told me he had already gotten (NAME REDACTED) number from (NAME REDACTED).

 

I did not buy (NAME REDACTED) a drink. I did not give (NAME REDACTED) a drink of any kind. I did not give her a shot of any kind. I did not give or offer to give any drugs to (NAME REDACTED).

 

Around the time Potbelly's was closing, Chris, Ron and I left Potbelly's and socialized in front of Potbelly's. Chris and I thought that (NAME REDACTED) was interested in both of us. I decided to send (NAME REDACTED) a text message letting her know that I was leaving and asking her whether she was ready to leave. Given our prior interaction and her response, I believe that it was clear to (NAME REDACTED) that my intent with the text was to find out whether she wanted to leave and go home with me. (NAME REDACTED) replied to my text saying in substance that she was ready to leave and was coming outside.

 

Chris, Ron and I were standing next to a taxi cab when (NAME REDACTED) came outside and voluntarily walked over to us. I do not recall exactly what was said, but we made it clear that we were leaving and (NAME REDACTED) made it clear that she wanted to leave with us. Since Potbelly's was closing, there were a bunch of students outside of Potbelly's, around the outside bar, and there were a bunch of taxicabs parked at the curb in front of Potbelly's.(NAME REDACTED) voluntarily left with us.

 

(NAME REDACTED) was not "taken," forced, or "coerced" into the taxicab. She was fully aware of what was happening; she voluntarily left Potbelly's in response to my text and she voluntarily got into the taxicab. If (NAME REDACTED) had protested, then I would have left her at Potbelly's. Additionally, if she had protested, the students and taxi cab drivers in front of Potbelly's would have heard her. (NAME REDACTED) was fully aware of her actions and she did not protest at all. (NAME REDACTED) left with us voluntarily.

 

The taxi cab ride to my apartment took roughly five minutes. During the ride, everyone was cheerful and talking. We asked (NAME REDACTED) if she had any friends who might want to come to our place and join us. I recall that she was calling some friends to come to our apartment.

 

Chris and I lived together in an apartment on the first floor of the Legacy Suites. After we arrived, (NAME REDACTED), Chris, Ron, and I went into my apartment.

 

Almost immediately upon our arrival, (NAME REDACTED) and I went into my bedroom. We were standing facing each other, kissing and touching each other's bodies. I eventually asked (NAME REDACTED) if she would perform oral sex on me. She said that she would. The lights in my bedroom were on and (NAME REDACTED) willingly performed oral sex on me. While (NAME REDACTED) was performing oral sex, I was close enough to my dresser to reach over to it, open a drawer, and retrieve a condom.

 

(NAME REDACTED) and I also engaged in intense foreplay and heavy petting during the same period that she was performing oral sex. I was with her on the bed during foreplay and I may have ejaculated a small amount of semen onto her clothing. (NAME REDACTED) assisted me in putting on the condom. I stood on the floor with (NAME REDACTED) on the bed and we engaged in consensual sexual intercourse. After sometime in this position, we changed positions. I got on my bed on my back and (NAME REDACTED) got on top of me. (NAME REDACTED) conduct and other verbal expressions left no doubt that our sex was consensual.

 

I recall hearing Chris and Ron outside of my room. The door to my room was broken so the door could not close fully or be locked. At some point, Chris came into the room. (NAME REDACTED), who was still on top of me, saw Chris and told him to get out of the room.

 

Chris left voluntarily. Chris did not tell me to stop having sex with (NAME REDACTED). Chris did not do or say anything to try to persuade me to stop having sex with (NAME REDACTED). (NAME REDACTED) did not do or say anything to Chris to express or indicate that she was being forced to have sex with me. In fact, after Chris left the room, (NAME REDACTED) got up to close the door completely. I told her that the door was broken and did not close all of the way or lock. (NAME REDACTED) then turned the lights off and returned to me.

 

Thereafter, either Ron or Chris pushed the door open as a prank. (NAME REDACTED) asked me if there was any way we could have more privacy. I took her into my bathroom. While in the bathroom, we began to have consensual sex again and eventually concluded having sex. After we finished having sex, we stayed in the bathroom for a few minutes talking and she then indicated that she was ready to leave.

 

(NAME REDACTED) dressed herself. While she was dressing, I asked (NAME REDACTED) where she lived and she told me that her place was not far from mine. I also got dressed and we left my apartment and got on my scooter. (NAME REDACTED) sat behind me on the scooter and wrapped her arms around my waist. After a short ride, perhaps three to five minutes, we arrived at the curb in front of Salley Hall. When I stopped at the curb, (NAME REDACTED) got off the scooter, gave me a hug, and walked through the Salley Hall walkway to her dorm, Kellum Hall.

 

Other than asking Chris to leave the room, (NAME REDACTED) did not say or do anything to express or indicate that she was upset about anything that occurred before, during, or after consensual sexual activities. From the time I met (NAME REDACTED) at Potbelly's to the time that I dropped her off at her dormitory, (NAME REDACTED) was fully aware of her surroundings and in control of all of her faculties. She was responsive and communicative. She had a pleasant personality and was fun to be with. During our consensual sexual interactions, (NAME REDACTED) engaged in sexual talk and took other actions that made it clear that the sex was consensual and that she was enjoying having sex with me. If (NAME REDACTED) did not want to have oral sex or intercourse with me, she was fully capable of expressing it to me, the taxicab drivers, the numerous students outside of Potbelly's, Chris, and/or Ron. Had she done so, I would have stopped immediately.

 

Rape is a vicious crime. The only thing as vicious as rape is falsely accusing someone of rape. (NAME REDACTED) and her lawyers have falsely accused me, threatened to sue me, demanded $7,000,000 from me, engaged in a destructive media campaign against me, and manipulated this process to the point that my rights have and will continue to be severely compromised. (NAME REDACTED) and her lawyers' public campaign to vilify me guarantees that her false allegations will follow me for the rest of my life.

 

At some point they will be held accountable, so I have determined that it is in my best interests to exercise my right pursuant to Rule 6C2R-3.004 (6)(d)of the Florida State University Student Code of Conduct and answer questions when experienced lawyers and other experts can assist me in confronting (NAME REDACTED) false accusation and when (NAME REDACTED) is subject to the penalty of perjury and other claims for (NAME REDACTED) falsely accusing me of rape.

 

The girl's side of the story is basically the same except she claims she was given drinks by people she didn't know at the bar, then when having sex with Winston that she kept telling him to stop then Chris Casher walked in and was yelling at him to stop too then left, which is when he took her to the bathroom and after sex Winston dumped her off with his scooter in some public area to discard her.

 

Obviously no one knows what happened and neither side is likely 100% correct but which side of the story sounds more believable to y'all?

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It's all he said/she said. We cannot and will not ever know what happened but as he wasn't a high profile individual yet, it's hard to believe a girl would randomly accuse him of rape after consexual sex.


He is, by no means, definitively a rapist. I just think our country is inclined to believe women who accuse men of rape. And they should be. It's far too vicious a crime to ignore, and I would genuinely bet that a good 85% of reported rapes were legitimate rapes. People don't understand the line of consent, no matter how clear that line is. It's kind of pathetic to be honest. No means no.

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It's also about how the case was handled and how the police and the university utterly failed to properly look into it. Zack had an article detailing it earlier on.

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It's also about how the case was handled and how the police and the university utterly failed to properly look into it. Zack had an article detailing it earlier on.

 

This. My biggest issue is how the police department has handled this investigation. I would buy them(the victim/her attorney) claiming foul play as just an attempt to get money or whatever out of Winston if this wasn't the only case of police department going out of it's way to keep FSU players out of trouble.

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I also agree about how poorly this case has been handled, from Jimbo Fisher all the way up to University officials.

 

You know, I don't know if I definitively hate Jameis Winston, simply because we do not know for sure that he's guilty, but I absolutely know one thing--I absolutely despise gutless people like Jimbo Fisher.

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So these FSU players that witnessed this. Why have they not been subpoena? Refusing to testify should not be an option here.

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What is Jimbo supposed to do? lol He's the coach of a football team, not a judge or attorney. If nothing comes out of these accusations, why would he punish his best player for no reason? Besides he suspended him for a huge game against their biggest ACC rival just because he was caught saying fuck her right in the pussy.

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So these FSU players that witnessed this. Why have they not been subpoena? Refusing to testify should not be an option here.

 

They were, had to give statements back then. Obviously it lined up the same as Jameis' story. During the code of conduct hearing that happened just the past couple days none of them testified because they didn't have to. Just let their original statements stand. Jameis did add that letter though.

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if Jameis told the police that story then there's absolutely no surprise that they didn't do anything with the accusation, police and prosecutors will rarely do anything with this sort of he said/she said case, regardless of who the defendant is

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I've always hated Jimbo more than Jameis. Just doesn't seem like the kind of coach who would do the right thing, but hey that's probably a lot of coaches.

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I'm not really sure. My disdain for Jimbo, admittedly, might be fashioned mostly by the media. It just seems like he, or the school, doesn't have the will to suspend their best players for doing something wrong. Again, I haven't looked into FSU as much and again, my bias against him might be totally ignorant. It just seems that if anyone is worth hating at FSU, it would be Jimbo and not Jameis.

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I'm not really sure. My disdain for Jimbo, admittedly, might be fashioned mostly by the media. It just seems like he, or the school, doesn't have the will to suspend their best players for doing something wrong. Again, I haven't looked into FSU as much and again, my bias against him might be totally ignorant. It just seems that if anyone is worth hating at FSU, it would be Jimbo and not Jameis.

 

Obviously we can't know of all the passes his given if we didn't know a player broke a rule or whatever, but he did suspend Jameis for an entire game against a ranked opponent and good defense in Clemson. FSU barely won in OT with it's backup QB and he almost sacrificed their season by benching his best player because he yelled profanity in a public place.

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if Jameis told the police that story then there's absolutely no surprise that they didn't do anything with the accusation, police and prosecutors will rarely do anything with this sort of he said/she said case, regardless of who the defendant is

He was not even interviewed initially.

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What exactly should he have done? What a crock of shit.

 

What exactly should he have done? How about actually disciplining his star QB instead of being a gutless, taint-mouthed cocksucker. Fucking pussy.

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Campin sig probably fits what Winston was saying to the girl that night :coffee:

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What exactly should he have done? How about actually disciplining his star QB instead of being a gutless, taint-mouthed cocksucker. Fucking pussy.

He benched him in a big game :yao: Do you want him to behead him? Damn.

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He benched him in a big game :yao: Do you want him to behead him? Damn.

 

Benched him AFTER the world erupted over him only benching him for a half.

 

Jimbo Fisher is a gutless fraud of a human being who has no business representing a university and should be fired as soon as the season is over. Florida State, if they have any intestinal fortitude, will fire him after the final game and move on from a man who has proven time and time again that he cares more about football than anything else.

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Benched him AFTER the world erupted over him only benching him for a half.

 

Jimbo Fisher is a gutless fraud of a human being who has no business representing a university and should be fired as soon as the season is over. Florida State, if they have any intestinal fortitude, will fire him after the final game and move on from a man who has proven time and time again that he cares more about football than anything else.

isn't that true of most big time college coaches? some are better at acting like they care about academics, but their performance is never measured by anything but on field performance

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He was suspended for an entire game for yelling something stupid. Thats good enough..

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He was suspended for an entire game for yelling something stupid. Thats good enough..

More than good enough in my opinion. If we didn't live in this Twitter/social media world, nobody would have even heard this story outside of a few FSU students. It was a stupid overreaction in my book.

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If it hadn't come from a guy facing rape allegations I don't think anyone would have heard about the yelling incident

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Apparently the second Jameis does something wrong, Jimbo should be there to kick him off the team. Or maybe BWare is just a clown, I think the second one is the more logical one.

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