Eagles Trade LeSean McCoy to Buffalo For Kiko Alonso

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LeSean has lost his Shady nickname. Only good players should have nicknames, and if last year was any indication, it's all downhill from here.

 

I like who the Bills moved to get him, but I don't like the fact that it's an already crowded backfield and that it's a seemingly unnecessary acquisition.

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I don't like the fact that it's an already crowded backfield and that it's a seemingly unnecessary acquisition.

Mediocre talents in Anthony Dixon and Bryce Brown along with senior citizen Fred Jackson constitutes for a crowded backfield these days?

[Dutch 874]

Not to mention Kiko, Kendricks, and Barwin could be a nasty force. With Trent Cole gone, maybe we can get Graham for a reasonable price.

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There was rumblings of the Eagles maybe packaging McCoy to the Jags with picks for their 3rd pick to take Mariota so I wasn't shocked when I heard McCoy got moved. But yeah like I said in the shoutbox I can kinda see what each coach was thinking with this trade. Chip figures he can scheme around not having that crazy talent at RB so he grabs a potential playmaker on defense and Rex figures he can scheme around not having a potential playmaker at LB and grabs a playmakers on offense which has never been his forte. It could end up being a win/win and I'm sure that was each team's thoughts on this but that rarely happens so we shall see. I honestly can't argue with either stance on who you think will win the trade, could go either way but my immediate gut response was Philly won the trade.

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Mediocre talents in Anthony Dixon and Bryce Brown along with senior citizen Fred Jackson constitutes for a crowded backfield these days?

I forgot Spiller was a FA. I think Bryce has talent, but outside of those two really nice games he had in Philly his rookie year, he's never gotten carries. That might be an indicator of his skill, but then the Bills didn't use Spiller right last year either, so who knows.

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Yeah not happy I'm just getting back home in time to be the last person to comment on this.

 

Anyways I didn't believe it when I heard it either...we are talking bout the running back with probably the most dick-riders in the league that no one in their right mind would have every guessed would move teams unless it was FA. This brings to mind a couple things about Philly.

 

- Chip Kelly is most def in control of the roster as well as the coaching. Many coaches have fought over that power and some have lost their jobs (Harbaugh). Kelly wants his TYPE of players. Desean and Lesean aren't his type.

 

-Chip loooooooooooves his Oregon players. We all could guess that, and even in last year's draft reaction I kept on about how much I love Chip going after his players. After seeing the system...seeing the Oregon players being piled up....and now this I do believe he is targeting Mariota, and I do think he is turning over the old guard and bringing the full Oregon experience.

 

-Alonso & Kendricks = SPEED at the LB position!

 

 

 

Looking at this from the Buffalo side....

 

-This trade doesn't happen without the emergence of Preston Brown. The 3rd round LB produced at a high level for his draft value in the absence of Alonso. They are covered there.

 

-I don't think this says much about what the offense will do or who they are trying to feature or hide in their offense and blah blah. Buffalo was offered a top 5 back and was fine giving up the player Philly wanted. Simple as that.

 

At the end of the day RBs aren't valuable anymore no matter what people say. In the sense that there is a huge surplus of them. Find a great athlete with great stamina and you are good to go if you have a good offensive line. Plus McCoy fell off hard last year JS.

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BLo got fleeced. They had a young potential all-star LB for an aging RB. That's an obvious trade. Reminds me of the Champ and Portis trade.

[Dutch 874]

To be honest, the Bills did great job last year without Kiko and now they have Rex as their coach Could possibly be a win/win but getting Kiko back this year would have made it even better.

 

If the Bills had a real QB ready to start right now, they would be instant contenders. I said my rant about McCoy in December of how he performed with our patchy O-line. When there was a hole and an opportunity to get some easy yards, he danced and failed to capitalize a lot. He seemed to rely on his offensive line at the point of attack more than the other elite RB's in the league. He's still a great RB but it's going to be interesting to see what he does behind Buffalo's offensive line.

 

In the meantime....

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 4, 2015 by Dutch

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Best thing about this trade: first off-season in years that I won't have to see post after post in every running back thread about how this is gone be C.J. Spiller's breakout year in buffalo. I seriously couldn't take another off-season of that.

 

With that in mind though, if people were that excited about a back who's never really done anything playing for a team that was clearly going nowhere, this has to be at least somewhat intriguing of a move. I saw someone's post about "can he play quarterback," and lol that's a good point. Still, if McCoy can rebound nicely this season, that Buffalo offense just got much better.

[Bangy 19]

The Philadelphia Eagles and Buffalo Bills agreed to a rare blockbuster challenge trade on Tuesday, sending shockwaves through the NFL.

 

The Eagles are flipping two-time All-Pro running back LeSean McCoy to Buffalo in exchange for linebacker Kiko Alonso, NFL Media columnist Michael Silver reports, via a source involved in the deal. The swap will not become official until the new league year starts on March 10.

 

One Bills source told Silver the trade talks took all of 20 minutes from start to finish.

 

ESPN's Adam Schefter first reported the trade, which does not involve draft picks, per NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.

The Eagles' willingness to part with McCoy is a stunner on the surface, but this is essentially a salary dump in which the return value is a young linebacker with Pro Bowl potential.

 

Chip Kelly was reluctant to devote $11.95 million in cap space to McCoy after watching the 26-year-old's production drop from 5.1 yards per carry and 10.4 yards per reception to 4.2 and 5.5, respectively.

 

After being phased out of the passing game in favor of Darren Sproles early in the season, McCoy forfeited short-yardage work to Chris Polk down the stretch. In other words, McCoy was too often on the sidelines in critical situations.

 

With McCoy's role diminished and his effectiveness waning, the Eagles reached the conclusion that it was better to pull the cord a year early than a year too late.

 

McCoy has also told friends that he didn't always see eye-to-eye with Kelly on practice methods and scheduling, Rapoport added.

 

Appearing on Tuesday's edition of NFL Total Access, NFL Media's LaDainian Tomlinson confirmed that McCoy's relationship with Kelly had become strained over the past year.

 

"I'm not really surprised about it," Tomlinson explained. "I had the chance to talk to LeSean McCoy a few weeks ago and he expressed to me that he didn't think he was going back to Philly next season. ... he just didn't think Philly was committed to him and he actually thought that Chip kind of phased him out of the offense at times last year."

 

In exchange for one of the NFL's best playmakers, Kelly is reunited with the former Oregon star Alonso, who is returning from ACL surgery on the heels of an outstanding rookie season.

 

As long as Alonso returns to pre-injury form, the Eagles will boast one of the NFL's speediest inside linebacker duos in Alonso and Mychal Kendricks.

If Rex Ryan plans to switch to a 3-4 defense, it's understandable that Alonso was viewed as a luxury with 2014 breakout starters Preston Brown and Nigel Bradham ticketed for inside linebacker.

 

The move also signals the end of free agent C.J. Spiller's Buffalo career, with McCoy and veteran Fred Jackson set to carry the mail in Greg Roman's power scheme. In fact, Rapoport confirms Spiller's imminent departure was a partial impetus for the trade.

 

It will be interesting to see if Kelly joins Chan Gailey and the Jets in making a run at Spiller next week.

 

After winning the power struggle for football operations in Philadelphia, Kelly is putting his stamp on the roster, unloading his rushing leader one year after jettisoning his top receiver.

 

If Kelly believes his system is more valuable than the marquee players he inherited, he now has eight former Ducks around which to build a contender.

 

Is Marcus Mariota the next Oregon-related blockbuster on Kelly's agenda?

Props to Kelly for believing in his system and Ducks this is either genius or madness. He has managed to get a lot of his guys and on reflection if Kiko can come back with little to no problems after the knee injury Oregon Philly most definitely got the the best out of this trade.

 

I like Shady but as people have said he dropped off last season and that Bills line is not the best. Not sure if Rex and the Bills FO were trolling at first or not.

Edited March 4, 2015 by Bangy

[Milla4Prez63 678]

Trading for a RB with a lot of mileage on him and a big price tag is never a good thing, IMO.

[McTater 28]

Everyone is just a product of the system in Philly now. I always thought that coaches who recently came into the NFL from college would try to get their old players, but then it faded away. And now Chip seems like he's trying to get every Oregon Alumni he can.

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Bills signed RB LeSean McCoy to a new five-year, $40 million that includes $26.5 million guaranteed.

McCoy was already under contract for the next three years at just over $25 million, but the Bills are kicking a bunch of up-front guaranteed money into the deal in what will keep McCoy one of the highest-paid backs in the league. Shady wanted the new deal in exchange for agreeing to come to Buffalo, though he realistically didn't have much of a choice. He's signed through his age-31 season.

Source: Jeff McLane on Twitter

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There was rumblings of the Eagles maybe packaging McCoy to the Jags with picks for their 3rd pick to take Mariota so I wasn't shocked when I heard McCoy got moved.

I think this is why the trade surprised me, I was expecting McCoy to be included in a Mariota deal since they don't really have the ammunition as far as draft picks (since they pick 20th) to move up to Mariota range it seemed like they'd need to throw a player in to make it happen and I'm not sure who else would be a big enough name for a team to part with a high draft pick, it'll be interesting to see if and how they can still pull off a deal for Mariota

[Guest Phailadelphia]

The Eagles got rid of Trent Cole and LeSean McCoy for Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell? LOL

[seanbrock 1,684]

The Eagles got rid of Trent Cole and LeSean McCoy for Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell? LOL

And cap space and youth dawg.

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Youth doesn't work when you just signed a RB who will be 32 when the season starts.

Edited March 8, 2015 by Favre4Ever

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oh iggles

[Guest Phailadelphia]

And cap space and youth dawg.

 

You signed a 30-year old RB, man.

And now Maclin is leaving too. smh.

[seanbrock 1,684]

Signing a stop gap 32 year old RB doesn't mean we didn't get younger this offseason lol. Gore is one guy. Herremans and Cole were both old and McCoy is 27 which is getting there for a RB BUT haters gon hate lol.

[McTater 28]

"Since 1990, the NFL has had 183 RB's play while they're 32+ years old. Just FOUR of them rushed for over 1,000 yards in a single season and none of them were over 32. Only NINE 32+ year old RB's have rushed for over 1,000 yards in NFL history.

In 2014, Frank Gore averaged 3.5 yards per carry or less in 8 games and scored just 1 touchdown in the final 8 games of the season."

Source: How Bout Them Cowboys https://www.facebook.com/howboutthemcowboys2890/posts/419786881513414

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is anyone expecting Gore to get enough carries to be a 1000 yard back? only fifteen players in NFL history have rushed for 1000 yards on fewer than 200 carries (Source) does anyone think Gore is going to get 200 carries in Philly this year? I think expecting 1000 yards sets the bar way too high

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The New York Daily News' Manish Mehta reports the Eagles attempted to reacquire LeSean McCoy from the Bills in a package centered around Jordan Matthews.

It makes for a fun story, but really nothing else. The Eagles and Bills were able to agree to a deal for Matthews, with the Bills taking the oft-injured wideout in exchange for CB Ronald Darby. In the effort to get McCoy back in Philly, EVP Howie Roseman was attempting to "reverse" ex-coach Chip Kelly's mistakes after Kelly was the one who traded McCoy. The Eagles instead later signed LeGarrette Blount and traded for Jay Ajayi. McCoy, 29, has two years left on his deal.

Source: New York Daily News

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Re-reading this thread, it's hilarious how we all assumed Shady was "aging" three years ago.