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The US has some of the worst leadership in the world? I mean with Trump maybe not before then. Going way too far there, bud.

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So why isn't US leadership some of the worst in the world? Can we agree that most of our leadership is bought and paid for, especially the people with any significant power? Can we agree that our elections are corrupted in MANY ways? Can we agree that our leadership causes more death around the world than any other country BY FAR? Does our leadership even really represent us regular people AT ALL? Most people regardless of  party affiliation are against war. Pretty sure ngata is the only guy here with more than a Milly in the bank. 

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https://therealnews.com/stories/global-tech-companies-renew-push-for-control-over-all-data

This is a very important issue you won't see covered on TV but our world is rapidly changing as we advance technologically. We can't sit by and let the power of information/intelligence be consolidated and leveraged against workers.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/11/politics/ilhan-omar-aipac-backlash/index.html

Israel is losing its grip on the minds of the American people. It's getting to the point where they can't hide how evil that government is. Being ani-zionist does not mean you hate Jews. Some of the most outspoken critics of Zionism are Jewish. I wish should would have stood her ground more but I'm sure it's not easy to make that stand so I applaud her none the less.

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Elections have consequences. The SC just refused to allow a Muslim man to be read his last rights by an Imam, on the grounds, so they say, that he waited too long. His request for an Imam was denied on January the 23rd and he filed his appeal on January the 28th. On February the 7th, 10 full days later, the SC vacated the stay and the man was executed. Alabama couldn't find an Imam in 10 days? No, they refused to find one. It is codified into law that they must give a prisoner a priest or pastor to give them their last rights, and so they are preferring one religion over another here. Kagan destroys the majority in her dissent (was 5-4 along ideological lines).

Do not get me wrong- what he did was horrible. But the idea that a man is not allowed to be read his last rights whatever religion he may be, is just abhorrent to me. 

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Maybe I am terrible for this. But I have to admit I care a lot less about his rights as a rapist and murderer of children. 

Not saying he doesn't deserve what he asked, just my personal opinion. 

Also, the dissent says the prison should've trained the Imam in execution protocol and such... Again, not saying he shouldn't have got it... but going that extra mile to accommodate him, meh. It's just really hard to care (and for the like 12th time in this small post, not saying that's right.. )

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Also, I don't think Kagan "destroys" the majority. The dissent was well written and put forth some valid thoughts, but in the end... She did agree that the majority's concern about security was legit... Which led to her saying the prison should've trained the Imam in execution protocol. I don't think " we agree, but not really" comes across as "destroy"-ing the majority decision. 

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I won't be coerced into voting for second worst. Look at California. Should be a liberal paradise because it's been Democrat run for decades. Instead they have the worst homeless CRISIS in the country. They let the banks do whatever they want so now regular people can't afford to live  there increasingly. They're the leading states on fracking and they're on a fucking fault line lol. They also think it's cool to use slave labor to fight the wildfires. Look at the record of Pelosi, Harris, Feinstein and Brown. If you think putting people like that in office is the answer man idk what to say. We have to draw a line.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfchronicle.com/news/amp/SF-tourist-industry-struggles-to-explain-street-12534954.php

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-homeless-how-we-got-here-20180201-story.html%3foutputType=amp

We need a political revolution, not a return to the status quoe that is destroying our country.

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23 hours ago, DalaiLama4Ever said:

Maybe I am terrible for this. But I have to admit I care a lot less about his rights as a rapist and murderer of children. 

Not saying he doesn't deserve what he asked, just my personal opinion. 

Also, the dissent says the prison should've trained the Imam in execution protocol and such... Again, not saying he shouldn't have got it... but going that extra mile to accommodate him, meh. It's just really hard to care (and for the like 12th time in this small post, not saying that's right.. )

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Also, I don't think Kagan "destroys" the majority. The dissent was well written and put forth some valid thoughts, but in the end... She did agree that the majority's concern about security was legit... Which led to her saying the prison should've trained the Imam in execution protocol. I don't think " we agree, but not really" comes across as "destroy"-ing the majority decision. 

Its a clear case of valuing one religion over another. Bama would have been fine with a Christian pastor- there have even been multiple cases where they took a specific person that the inmate wanted and trained them in the protocol. Though I agree the man is a horrible person, everyone should be able to be read their last rites if they want to. Maybe the fact that I am against the death penalty in all forms colors my thinking here, idk.

Their reasoning is also bullshit, they state he waited too late, and act like he should have challenged it in November, but in november, he had no reason to believe he would be denied an Imam per the statute in question.

Kagan accuses them of violating the establishment clause, idk if you've read much of Kagan's writings, but that's about as fiery as she gets.

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https://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/19/kamala-harris-jamaican-father-donald-harris-rips-2/

Donald Harris might have just killed his daughter's campaign. This is beautiful. Might be a two horse race between Biden and Hillary now. How long will it take for her campaign and the donor class to paint him as a crazy person and discredit him?

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I feel like every time I read descriptions or even her wiki page, she sounds good/decent. But almost every time she speaks or I see a quote, I end up cringing at some point. 

 

 

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I don't like Harris at all- I'd vote for her as an alternative to Trump, but that's about it- but to say her father disapproving of her smoking weed kills her campaign is about as much of an overreaction as I've seen from you, sean lol. The older generation does not get it, we know this.

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I think the part that's more concerning is the statement he made about his own daughter. That strikes me much more than the innocuous comment she made. 

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On 2/23/2019 at 3:38 PM, seanbrock said:

I think the part that's more concerning is the statement he made about his own daughter. That strikes me much more than the innocuous comment she made. 

I mean, unless you know that Harris wasn't raised by him, but both her and her sister were raised by their mother?

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN16M2IN

This is sick, man. How come we're not dropping bombs and changing the Israeli "regime?" The answer is obvious. Money in politics. Now their government, along with our own is supporting Neo-Nazis in multiple countries. This is so sick and twisted and bizarre. Funny thing is all the billions that they're given they have health care, great education. We can't afford that here. 

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Public Assassination?

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16 hours ago, Zack_of_Steel said:

What will it take for rich white dudes to be held accountable? This Manafort shit is a joke.

Still infuriating despite being utterly predictable. Robert Mueller has accomplished absolutely nothing other than to prop up dumb propaganda talking points. 

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8 hours ago, seanbrock said:

Still infuriating despite being utterly predictable. Robert Mueller has accomplished absolutely nothing other than to prop up dumb propaganda talking points. 

And supposedly get paid to incite riots and get a bunch of people killed in Ukraine.

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Ilhan Omar is a total fucking badass. No other Democrat is willing to tell the truth about Israel and about Barack Obama and the leadership of the Democratic party. Tulsi Gabbard comes in a close second but it's funny to watch these hypocrite fake liberals try to silence a Muslim woman of color. A bunch of "woke" sheep. lol pathetic.

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We shall see what Mueller has when he releases the report, he has indicted or convicted quite a few people, to call that nothing is kinda silly. He's still sitting on things, you dont just make everything public during an investigation.

The continued assault on Omar for simply saying that a superpac puts money into politics and pro-Israel politicians is disturbing. How is that anti-Semitic in any way shape or form? Are we not allowed to criticize Israel at all? And then we have Meghan McCain almost breaking down into tears, (LMAO), about antisemitism and how Omar's comments scare her. I feel like everyone up there has taken a crazy pill all of a sudden. I just don't even understand how her comments could be construed as antisemite in any way. The only thing I can even think of is that Jews are stereotyped as loving money... but its a fact that Aipac puts a lot of money into politics. McCain had a comic post a drawing on her twitter account of her faux outrage over Omar's comments, and Meghan responded by saying it was the most antisemetic thing she'd ever seen. The comic was made by Eli Valley, who is Jewish. Clearly, anti-semetic. 

If merely criticizing a country is construed as being racist against that country's inhabitants, we are in serious trouble as a society. 

On a different front, Medhi Hasan did an interview with Erik Prince, (Betsy Devos's brother), the leader of Blackwater, which is a private security firm. Prince wants to privatize the war in Afghanistan and has been quoted as saying some pretty *ahem* inflammatory comments about the Iraqis. Prince has been linked to Trump and donated $250k to Trump's campaign. He testified before the House Intelligence Committee that he had nothing to do with the campaign in any official matter except to maybe plant some signs in front yards. In the interview, he says he was part of the Trump Tower meeting in 2016, which Hasan responds to with incredulity, as Prince just basically admitted he committed perjury. When pressed on it, he insisted he revealed this to Congress, when shown the transcript where he did not, he responded that the transcript was wrong. These people think they are untouchable, its hilarious. Should be an easy one to jail, at least, not sure how you get out of flat out admitting perjury.

 

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Mueller has nabbed Trump associates and he's nabbed Russians... But he hasn't nabbed either group for being connected to the other. Even after getting criminals like Manafort -- if Mueller doesn't nab SOMEBODY for some type of collusion or similar crime... I am going to be disappointed. And it would only further fuel Trump's fake news rhetoric. Imagine going into 2020 if Mueller concludes no collusion... Trump train will be rolling full blast.

 

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If there was no collusion, or at least none provable, so be it. But Trump has done plenty of things since then that makes me highly doubt he will be going into 2020 full blast. The man lies like five times a day, lol. Any competent person should be able to destroy him on the issues. The question is whether the Dems will put one up.

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The lying isn't new though. If there's no proven collusion, he is going to use that to super charge his base.. and they are going to buy-in all the way-- more so than last election IMO. Maybe you've said this previously and I missed it. But who is inspiring on the Democratic side? There are like 20 some Democrats already... Who is capable of being the "one" you reference in your post?

I think it is very worrisome that Joe Biden is being pegged as the front-runner right now. At least in my part of the country. Polling (lol) has him as the favorite amongst Dem voters here in Iowa. Obviously... it's still early. but Joe Biden? I can't see him beating Trump. 

And, it seems like Trump is going to hit the socialist rhetoric really hard... which is also going fire up his base -- especially if Bernie wins the nomination. And I think that specifically will help him against Warren, Booker, and Harris who are all fighting for that 3rd  spot.

It will come down to a lot of factors, like any election... 

But I think a lot of it will fall on two big factors.
1) How pissed off each base is and gets as we get closer to the election. Which side of core voters amongst Dems and Republicans are going to be more motivated to vote? Are Republicans going to go out in droves to defend and support Trump? Are Democrats going to be pissed off enough at Trump to vote in droves?

2) I really think the moderate vote is going to be important. It won't be a huge swing in either direction.. But we saw counties, states, etc vote for Obama twice then switch to Trump.... How the hell does that happen? And will it happen again? Are those people... the ones who are willing to actually vote based on more than just political allegiance going to be tired of Trump? Or are they willing to go for another round on the crazy coaster? Again, I know the swing in either direction is going to be small, percentage-wise, but it could make a huge impact... Just like it did the first time.

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I personally think Biden is not good for the country, but I think he would absolutely destroy Trump. A not-so-insignificant minority that supports the Donald does so because or at least in part because, he is an old white dude. Again, not claiming everyone is racist who supports him, but a minor chunk is. A minor chunk that is normally among those most vocally in support of Trump and most energetic about supporting him, as they see him as a buffer to the "others" such as Ilhan Omar that is coming with her Sharia law to destroy the US- as told to them by Judge Jeanine Piro on Fox News, who literally questioned on Friday whether the fact that Omar wears a hijab means that she is more loyal to the Quran than the US. (She really did.) You would think a Catholic of all people would know better than to go down that road.

Point being- those people will not be nearly so enthusiastic if Joe Biden is the opponent. And the loss of a few tens of thousands is enough to sink Trump, given how close his margins are. 

The Democrats base is scared as hell and hopefully pissed off to boot, because if Trump wins, the Supreme Court will be at least 6-3 in favor of the GOP, as there is simply no way Ginsburg makes it four more years. 

People that I think would beat him easily: Tulsi Gabbard, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris.

People that would be closer but I think would win: Bernie Sanders, Corey Booker, Julian Castro, Kirstie Gillibrand.

People who are going to lose: Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar.

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