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I think it’s definitely leaning that way more now than it has before. Crazy shit happens, so who knows if it stays that way. 

I was reading a few articles before about Trumps approval ratings and things. They were looking at some of his more racially charged tweets and saw a correlation in a dip in support. They also said if he can stay out of those waters, it might be green pastures for him heading into 2020.

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Yeah I saw he has a higher appeal eating in his first term up to this point than Obama. And Obama was reelected against tighter opposition in my opinion.

I see him beating the hell out of anyone in the election. Before Gabbard torpedoed Harris, I would have said she probably could have gotten the minority and female vote and energized the base. Now that people know she is one of the worst things to happen to black people in California she is radioactive.

Warren, Biden, Sanders, Harris, Gabbard, or Yang. I don't see how they win honestly.

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9 hours ago, BwareDWare94 said:

And the transcript shows nothing impeachable, and yet the democratic news networks are running with it like it's some bombshell 🤣

First, this isn't the transcript. This is a bunch of notes compiled by Trump & co. This is what they were OKAY with releasing.

Secondly: Uh, what transcript are you reading?

Edit: Once again this forum has eaten my post. The only thing that should be in quotes were the two statements from Zelensky and Trump.

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Zelensky: "We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes."

Trump: "I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it."

Then later on he attaches investigating Biden to it as well. The dude literally asked him for Javelin missiles and Trump responds with "I'd like you to do us a favor though." Quid pro quo, as blatantly as Trump will ever admit to. 

Like count me among those who never thought Trump's aides would allow him to release anything incriminating. This is beyond incriminating. This is damning. The President of the United States asked a foreign power to re-open an investigation into a political opponent as a favor to him. Directly after being asked about selling more javelin anti-tank missiles to the Ukraine. And this just from the notes of the call. The call was 30 minutes long, there's no way five pages equate to 30 minutes. 

Pelosi has what she needs. He's being impeached, as he should have been a long time since.

What on earth do you need, a literal cartoon villain cackling as he demands money? This is as close to that as you're going to get from anything they will release without someone leaking something or seizing documents.

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6 hours ago, Omerta said:

Yeah I saw he has a higher appeal eating in his first term up to this point than Obama. And Obama was reelected against tighter opposition in my opinion.

I see him beating the hell out of anyone in the election. Before Gabbard torpedoed Harris, I would have said she probably could have gotten the minority and female vote and energized the base. Now that people know she is one of the worst things to happen to black people in California she is radioactive.

Warren, Biden, Sanders, Harris, Gabbard, or Yang. I don't see how they win honestly.

Yang and Gabbard win going away, as they pull 10%+ of Trump voters away from him.

Harris is donezo, she's polling below 5% now, trending down.

Sanders would be a tough fight because the GOP would just say "socialism" like its a spooky word and half the country would get scared.

Warren is also a tough fight, mainly because I think Trump kills her in debates. He's already got her labeled and it was a bad gaffe on her part.

Biden I think wins, though not as easily as the polls indicate, mainly because yeah, I don't think he's good in debates. He sticks his foot in his mouth a lot. But he's popular where he needs to be as far as getting electoral votes, and as long as he doesn't make a critical error in debates, I think he would win. Maybe not too easily, but I think electorally Biden is probably in the best shape.

Obama also was in the middle of a recession when he took over. Trump has been riding on the coattails of Obama fixing the economy Bush ruined thus far. We'll start to see any impact Trump has shortly.

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Anyone who wins the DNC nomination is going to have to have a very particular personality to be able to withstand Trump's barrage of insults and hail marys. I agree that Yang and Gabbard definitely could do that. 

Trump will probably destroy Biden, Harris, Booker, Bernie (agree or not, the socialism thing is going to be a negative) and probably Warren. Warren will probably get slaughtered, but I think she will try being really aggressive with him in return and that might have some varying results depending on the situation. Beto with his "hell yes, I am taking your weapons" is probably gonna hurt (talking in the general, not right now)... I don't think he has a chance, but I wonder the GOP is probably gonna keep pushing this Biden/Ukraine narrative to deflect from Trump. And again, regardless if you agree or not... Some of the Biden stuff does look damning. This might be the end of him.

Buttigieg maybe has a chance? He handled himself really well on the debate stage when faced with the abusive cops in Indiana. I haven't really looked too hard into his numbers or demos of his supporters so I am kind of talking out my ass but as I sit here it wouldn't shock me if he could pull through. Trump attacking a gay veteran is gonna be some choppy fucking waters, but not even close to impossible. And he (Buttigieg) is pushing new ads here in Iowa trying to distance himself from the crazies like Bernie and Warren who want to strip employer based insurance in their medicare for all plans. I will say it again.. Agree or not personally, but that's the smart play when talking about health care. 
 

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Could they beat him? Probably. It's for naught though, we have seen how they treat Gabbard, and Yang is a man. This isn't going to happen. It won't be Trump that stops them, it will be the DNC.

we are getting Warren or Sanders. They are going to lose.

Either way he is polling well, not that polls are the be all end all as Sean points out. The polls are deeply flawed 

Bidens dementia will prevent him from winning.

And Clinton had just as much to do with ruining the economy. In fact he probably had the most to do with it thanks to his repealing glass steagall and the higher education amendments that ballooned student debt. He did more for banks than Bush ever did.

Not to say Bush's war did us good, just saying you can't just blame the Republican here when the problem has Democrat roots.

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@Thanatos The GOP called Obama and Hillary a socialist lol. They're going to use that against whoever the DNC nominates. People want healthcare, people need debt relief, people want a raise and they want to do something about the environment. The socialism scare tactic is losing it's efficacy because they call every Democrat a socialist. 

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7 hours ago, Omerta said:

Could they beat him? Probably. It's for naught though, we have seen how they treat Gabbard, and Yang is a man. This isn't going to happen. It won't be Trump that stops them, it will be the DNC.

we are getting Warren or Sanders. They are going to lose.

Either way he is polling well, not that polls are the be all end all as Sean points out. The polls are deeply flawed 

Bidens dementia will prevent him from winning.

And Clinton had just as much to do with ruining the economy. In fact he probably had the most to do with it thanks to his repealing glass steagall and the higher education amendments that ballooned student debt. He did more for banks than Bush ever did.

Not to say Bush's war did us good, just saying you can't just blame the Republican here when the problem has Democrat roots.

I wasn't even trying to blame the Republicans entirely, each President is his own individual. But it was Obama who got us out of it.

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13 hours ago, DalaiLama4Ever said:

Anyone who wins the DNC nomination is going to have to have a very particular personality to be able to withstand Trump's barrage of insults and hail marys. I agree that Yang and Gabbard definitely could do that. 

Trump will probably destroy Biden, Harris, Booker, Bernie (agree or not, the socialism thing is going to be a negative) and probably Warren. Warren will probably get slaughtered, but I think she will try being really aggressive with him in return and that might have some varying results depending on the situation. Beto with his "hell yes, I am taking your weapons" is probably gonna hurt (talking in the general, not right now)... I don't think he has a chance, but I wonder the GOP is probably gonna keep pushing this Biden/Ukraine narrative to deflect from Trump. And again, regardless if you agree or not... Some of the Biden stuff does look damning. This might be the end of him.

Buttigieg maybe has a chance? He handled himself really well on the debate stage when faced with the abusive cops in Indiana. I haven't really looked too hard into his numbers or demos of his supporters so I am kind of talking out my ass but as I sit here it wouldn't shock me if he could pull through. Trump attacking a gay veteran is gonna be some choppy fucking waters, but not even close to impossible. And he (Buttigieg) is pushing new ads here in Iowa trying to distance himself from the crazies like Bernie and Warren who want to strip employer based insurance in their medicare for all plans. I will say it again.. Agree or not personally, but that's the smart play when talking about health care. 
 

Buttigieg would beat Trump by more than anyone not named Yang or Gabbard, IMO. He has some great ideas and he still pulls some more moderate people as well. Plus I guarantee you Trump would make some sort of gay joke in a debate that would give Pete the ability to play the victim.

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Whistleblower complaint is insane. Whoever this guy/gal is, they know what they are doing.

The "transcript" is incomplete. The White House KNEW there was a problem with what Trump did because they have since tried to hide any official record of the call and endeavored to know who had listened to it. The crazy part is Trump himself didn't think there was anything wrong with it, as over a dozen people were listening to the call, because WH officials thought it was just going to be a routine call. Which is why they can't pin down how the whistleblower got their information, because a dozen plus people could have told them.

It also makes clear via the timeline that Trump withdrew military aid to Ukraine directly after Giuliani informed Trump that Zelenskyy wasn't going to re-open the case. He is clearly putting pressure on a foreign government to give him dirt.

And there's even more in there that's classified information that only the House will have access to. If there was any doubt, this complaint ends it. Trump was/is trying to get dirt on a political rival with the assistance of a foreign government. Not surprising, since he told ABC he would do just that. Impeach the fucker. Let the GOP show the American people whether they stand with their country or the traitor currently occupying the White House.

Edit: Trump is now threatening the whistleblower and whoever gave them the information, calling them "almost-spies" that basically committed treason, and saying, and I quote, "You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now."

GOP can go on thinking this is a nothing burger. Trump is in deep shit and he knows it.

Edit 2: Even the political calculus is swinging in Dem's favor. 55% now favor impeachment if Trump pressured Zelenskyy to investigate Biden. This was on Tuesday, so this is even BEFORE the complaint was released today.

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1 hour ago, Thanatos said:

I wasn't even trying to blame the Republicans entirely, each President is his own individual. But it was Obama who got us out of it.

Oh, when you said "Bush ruined the economy" I just assumed you meant all him.

It seems like not more than ever there is a difference if individuals and party, although people are desperately trying to keep people in the club.

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1 minute ago, Omerta said:

Oh, when you said "Bush ruined the economy" I just assumed you meant all him.

It seems like not more than ever there is a difference if individuals and party, although people are desperately trying to keep people in the club.

Yeah my bad, that was an oversimplification of the issue, I understand why you would think. Was kinda just a glancing shot. Clinton definitely started us down the trail, Bush finished it. 

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Even though it is worse than the WH version of events, is it enough to flip GOP senators? It might depend highly on polling numbers of the public... and Idk if they are gonna turn on Trump either. At least this does (kind of) give Democrats another out / solidifies that out. Even if the GOP Senate holds strong, if trump wins the election but loses the Senate he is gone either way. In that scenario though... we get 4 years of Pence and.... fucking gross. 

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9 minutes ago, DalaiLama4Ever said:

Even though it is worse than the WH version of events, is it enough to flip GOP senators? It might depend highly on polling numbers of the public... and Idk if they are gonna turn on Trump either. At least this does (kind of) give Democrats another out / solidifies that out. Even if the GOP Senate holds strong, if trump wins the election but loses the Senate he is gone either way. In that scenario though... we get 4 years of Pence and.... fucking gross. 

Agreed. Fucking gross. I'd almost rather have Trump because his corruption is in your face. But it's about future presidencies as much as this one. The President cannot be allowed to get away with this without consequences. 

Romney will vote against Trump, I think. He said that if the report showed Trump put pressure on Zelenskyy it would be "extremely troubling." I think he'll vote to save his own skin. GOP is up 53-47 so we would need 20 GOP Senators to vote to remove Trump. That's a pretty big long shot, tbh. I still doubt despite all this that enough GOP vote to remove him. But he just handed the election to the Dems provided they don't absolutely fuck it all up.

Don't give it to Biden now, he's involved with this Ukraine thing. Anyone else should beat him at this point. 

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I still think it has to be Yang or Gabbard. I really think Warren fucked herself with the native thing, and basically just co-opting Bernie. If you dig a little into her you can uncover things that make her look more dishonest, or dumb.

Bernie will NEVER get it imo. 

I don't think this will hurt Trump much. I actually see this backfiring on Democrats in earnest. Even if the Democrats pull it off there are only two people worse than Trump. Pence and Hillary. Ones not running and the other would be defacto president. The guy who believes you can electrocute the far out of people...nah dog.... Not my kind of guy.

That is what is so maddening about Trump and the Democrats relationship. If Democrats weren't so intent on relying on the outrage culture and just played moderate ball, they would destroy Trump. Yet they for some reason refuse.

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1 hour ago, Omerta said:

I still think it has to be Yang or Gabbard. I really think Warren fucked herself with the native thing, and basically just co-opting Bernie. If you dig a little into her you can uncover things that make her look more dishonest, or dumb.

Bernie will NEVER get it imo. 

I don't think this will hurt Trump much. I actually see this backfiring on Democrats in earnest. Even if the Democrats pull it off there are only two people worse than Trump. Pence and Hillary. Ones not running and the other would be defacto president. The guy who believes you can electrocute the far out of people...nah dog.... Not my kind of guy.

That is what is so maddening about Trump and the Democrats relationship. If Democrats weren't so intent on relying on the outrage culture and just played moderate ball, they would destroy Trump. Yet they for some reason refuse.

Outrage culture? Really? You can't ask a foreign government for help in US elections. Period. That is not outrage culture. He should be impeached over this. 

As Yang said, the political calculus shouldn't even enter into it at this point. We're a nation of laws. Trump has broken said laws. Therefore he should be impeached, no matter what the political gain or cost.

For the record, the country is sharply turning towards impeachment. On Tuesday it was 55% in favor if Trump pressured Zelenskyy. Let's see what the next few say after this bombshell of a whistleblower complaint.

I'm also not sure after this that Pence would win if Trump was removed. He'd be tainted by association.

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37 minutes ago, Thanatos said:

Outrage culture? Really? You can't ask a foreign government for help in US elections. Period. That is not outrage culture. He should be impeached over this. 

As Yang said, the political calculus shouldn't even enter into it at this point. We're a nation of laws. Trump has broken said laws. Therefore he should be impeached, no matter what the political gain or cost.

For the record, the country is sharply turning towards impeachment. On Tuesday it was 55% in favor if Trump pressured Zelenskyy. Let's see what the next few say after this bombshell of a whistleblower complaint.

I'm also not sure after this that Pence would win if Trump was removed. He'd be tainted by association.

I'm not saying people shouldn't be outraged over this. That's not what I meant, I was more speaking to the way they go about winning the election. It seems as though we're always trying to accent things that divide us instead of talking about things that unite us. I don't mean this as a campaign slogan or anything like that, I'm just pointing out the way that Democrats have gone about winning the election.

Just as an example reading Cortez Green New deal  is a bunch of generalities that are behind a good principle. I don't think anybody is going to argue that if the climate changed dramatically, that we would be in for something nasty. What we're debating about is the timetable, and I am all for taking the conservative estimate here. As somebody who owns an electrical contracting business, I would love to see a huge push in green energy from a money standpoint. I would also love to see it from an environmental standpoint, so if we want to make radical changes to the way we power our nation I'm all for it.

That said, there are two different strategies in the political sphere for how we deal with this. if you're a Democrat they talk about getting away from fossil fuels, lowering our carbon footprint, and moving towards renewable energy sources. All of that's a good thing. And then we have to taint it by getting drawn into a fight with Republicans because we like to point out the fact that oil money is a primary motivator as to why we have not gotten away from non-renewable energy sources. it is true that many Republicans benefit from the oil industry, but it's not like they're alone. There are a lot of Democrats who make oil money to. it is at this juncture that the conversation starts to devolve, and as a consequence diverges from what we really need.

So in the green New deal, it hardly lays out anything in specificity about achieving green energy about , instead it's about the traditionally impoverished and people of color. this really has little to do with the environment, but it's a way to rally a base behind what you're saying. This is when we start to diverge from things that are actually important.

we would rather talk about the pronouns that we used to address less than 5% of 1% of this country. We are so constantly worried about checking each other's privileges, that we very rarely see what we have in common.

Your pole was a great example of this. You and I have been going round and round about banning assault rifles. outside of people who know me, even in an internet setting, people would assume that I'm a far-right whack job. That being said the problem is when we say terms like common sense. That means that if I don't agree with you that I am lacking in common sense, instead of just a minor disagreement over an issue. I am all for background checks, I am all for different laws that will keep guns out of the hands of people we know to be dangerous. Are we going to stop them all? No, of course we're not. Do I think that we should be able to keep all of the rights that are in the Constitution? Absolutely, and I don't think they should be bent using the logic that while most of us agree we should ban them. That's why they're there. That being said we pick one issue and divide ourselves into camps.

The entire Democratic strategy for winning the election for the last 10 years or so has been catering to our differences, instead of establishing what we have in common, and then taking one issue at a time. Everybody on this site was able to find middle ground on the gun issue. But when you don't approach the topic from a holistic standpoint, it quickly devolves into your in your camp, and I'm in my camp and we're going to fight to the death for it.

Foreign policy is another one. people like Sean absolutely hate Israel, and there's going to be no middle ground on it. We are all for an isolationist viewpoint when it comes to war in another country, until we see things like Syria, or even the Russian interference in the election, some people are wanting to go to war behind that.

maybe it's because I have a personality that doesn't really see a lot of gray area, at least from a moral standpoint. But that is the biggest draw to Tulsi gabbard for me. She leaves no room for interpretation on what she thinks of these regime-change wars. We're going to stay out of them, this really isn't a debate for her. whether she's arguing with her party or the Republican party, she sticks to her guns on that, and that's something I can absolutely appreciate.

as to Trump being impeached, if I'm being 100% honest, I could not care less either way. That is what I was referring to when I was talking about the Democratic party being maddening. At this point in time in our country, the Democrats have some things that they need to work out, and they say a lot of stupid things. That being said on most issues they find their selves in the enviable position of having facts supporting your argument. And yet there's all these appeals to emotion. I think they would be much better served to get out of the mud slinging competition with a pig. Trump is absolutely counting on this in the next election, he wants the next Democratic candidate to sling mud with him, because he likes it, and because he's good at it. That is his only path to victory. What is maddening to me, is that Democrats won't use things to their advantage. Right now all of the climate change data supports their hypothesis, and yet they want to use it to sling mud. Rise above it, stay calm, and present your case. It works.

sure you're not going to have those reaction videos about you dunking on someone, but it is far more effective. Yet again, looking at Tulsi gabbard, what she did to Harris was a thing of beauty. Harris was running a campaign to strictly appeal to the black and impoverished people, and she was using that issue to champion them. She had no real facts to back up her argument, but it didn't seem to matter. Until somebody stayed calm, used fact as ammunition, an open fired in a way that left absolutely no room for retreat, only surrender. Every since Tulsi dropped that bomb on her she went from a top-three candidate to now she's actually pulling lower then the top five candidates. This is how it campaign should be run. Tulsi attacked her in a way that was calm, articulate, in laden with facts. After that debate people are scouring Google to check the veracity of her claims, they found out she was correct, and Harris no longer has a path to victory. I just don't understand why Democrats are going to refuse to use this, they would rather deliver fiery speeches about taking down the man, or wiping out racism, and using a set of unrealistic ideals and goals to pander to a base that is more prone to use emotion as a decision maker instead of logic.

I actually don't want Trump to get impeached. I would rather see him beaten at The ballot box. If we were able to get somebody like gavotte in, with a whole nation behind her I think that set her up for success. Or any candidate for that matter. If you impeach Trump you're going to do two things immediately. You're going to make him a martyr to a very very powerful ease who has a lot of money, and you're going to make him a martyr to a base that votes. The second thing you're going to do is cheapeb a Democrat win. people are going to say that you could not have won an election straight up, and they very well could be right. So it's going to immediately undermine The credibility of the democratic nominee.

Should he absolutely. if it turns out that the whistleblower is an impeccable source, and they are not lying, and it can be corroborated, then absolutely impeach him. It's going to be a tough road to hoe though, mainly because of the Mueller investigation. People are going to conflate the two as the same thing. they're going to use the logic that how come it's okay that Democrats do it, but when a republican does it it's a problem. The answer is obvious, but as we've already established the truth doesn't really matter does it?

Something else this does is take Joe Biden completely out of the race because if Trump was searching for something, then he probably had a lead. Out of all the countries in the world you picked the Ukraine? Biden did something dirty, so he's no longer in the race in my opinion. if he is it would be a colossal strategic error. that leaves us with Warren to fight the Republican candidate, and if it's Trump she's going to get absolutely lambasted. So then who's next? That leaves Bernie Sanders, but he is already been kept out by his own party once. this leaves a path to the presidency for people like Yang and gabbard, although it's a small one. The Democrats have ran themselves out of options by backing terrible people that's far, now the elections next year and they have plenty of time to put money and resources behind it decent candidate, or at this point I would even settle for a decent human being. They have time to turn it around, but as of right now if Trump can escape this inquiry oh, it's going to be very hard times for the Democrats.

that is all I was saying, I was trying to keep it brief, because as you can see when I explain my full point oh, it gets windy.

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So he may be a piece of shit but he just signed into law the autism CARES act. This is a good thing. He is capable of good shit on occasion.

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I really hate how Dems use how bad Trump is to avoid talking about their agenda. I don't think the path to victory is to run against someone. People are hurting in this country. People want healthcare they can afford. People want to get out of debt. It's amazing how everyone agrees that we just had to bailout the usurous banks and the auto industry that returned the favor by shipping away more jobs but ignore the systemic risk of the private debt crisis. People need to be able to buy stuff lol. This isn't gonna work. As long as democrats keep railing about Trump while telling working people to go fuck themselves they're going to continue to lose. 

Democrats keep trying to win over boomers and moderates but they're not going to. Those are people who didn't enter the work force and college having to shoulder such massive debt. They had a major advantage in their ability to build wealth. Democrats win by catering to milennials (which polls won't reflect because they over sample 55 and over peeps). The liberal base of older generations and displaced workers will follow. I don't see milennials coming out strong for Biden or Warren.

The know all of this of course, but the leadership of the party is bought and paid for. Tom Perez is a former Pharma lobbyist lol. Pelosi, Schumer and Perez and the rest at the top have absolutely no reason to try to fight for change. They've become massively wealthy under the current system. Anyone who the donor class or the party leadership supports will be a cancer upon this country. Anyone who takes corporate money will be a cancer upon this country. It's that simple. It really is that simple. 

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A major problem with Democrats in 2019 is that they not only believe that they're correct about everything, they also believe they're the intellectual superiors of our society by default. Why else did they allow an open disdain for the Midwest and for rural voters after Hillary lost? This complete dismissal of differing perspectives, especially about hot-button issues, is and will continue to be their political undoing. This open arrogance turned off swing voters during the 2016 election season. It turned off moderate voters like myself who are neverTrumpers in a moral sense but are not guaranteed Dem votes, and it is doing the same things during this election season. Donald Trump is going to win rather easily in 2020, and it could be a landslide victory.

 

Until Democrats jump off the hyperbole and superiority bandwagon, they'll continue to fail. They're doing things Republicans have done from other perspectives for years, things they've called Republicans out for, and despite their sure belief in their intellectual superiority, they're not smart enough to realize it. Pot, meet Kettle.

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Trump is not getting impeached, forget about it.

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Trump will 100% be impeached. He may not be removed, since the GOP lacks a spine unless its about war apparently, but impeachment only requires the House. 

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So, Trump has basically just betrayed the Kurds and allied with Erdogan. Congrats on becoming a rogue nation, America.

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It's 100% America's fault for dragging the Kurds through ... everything... for the last million years. Letting them sacrifice their soldiers to fight our fake war on terror was BS. The endless wars need to not be endless though. The Syrian Civil war isn't our war to fight.

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7 hours ago, Thanatos said:

Trump will 100% be impeached. He may not be removed, since the GOP lacks a spine unless its about war apparently, but impeachment only requires the House. 

The Republicans are spineless by definition lol.

3 hours ago, RazorStar said:

So, Trump has basically just betrayed the Kurds and allied with Erdogan. Congrats on becoming a rogue nation, America.

Becoming? Huh? Lol Turkey is probably another country We'll be seeing a Trump casino or hotel or whatever lol. These people are complete sociopaths and it didn't start on 2016.

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