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Man I am getting so sick of remembering this mass murdering pieces of shit as nice guys. Bush I was undoubtedly smarter than his son the way he handled Iraq but he still lied to get us there and he still used fucking radioactive material and white phosphorus against those people AND he was CIA director and he was involved with all Reagan's shit. The man should be burning in hell.

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Did you know you could buy crack cocaine on the doorstep of the white house? Well you couldn't, but more cops and more minorities in prison will solve that problem.

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Right and back to the whole, "there's only one party bit."  Nixon, Reagan, and Bush had their work finished by Bill Clinton. George HW Bush has been the source of suffering for millions of people in the US and in other countries. Dude was a fucking scum bag. Who the fuck cares if he liked baseball? 

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So the sentencing memo comes out and it turns out that Stormy Daniels is more relevant, at least legally, than Russia lol

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At least the trade war is (seemingly) cooling down a bit. China put in a MASSIVE order for soybeans. One of the best days for soybeans ever.. Still a long way to go but still nice to see. 

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Can someone explain to me how pulling out of Syria is bad? Lol Look, Trump is a fucking crook and an awful president, I get it but we don't need to criticize him for everything blindly. 

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Uh... none. I don't even care why it was done really. Trump only is doing it because it will help him in the polls... fine by me. Trump is getting paid off by the Syrian government to leave them alone.. fine by me. We don't belong there. No reason to stop at Syria. #BringOurTroopsHome

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While I agree with the general sentiment you two have, a wholescale removal with little to no plan involved is idiotic. (And ofc, Trump declaring victory just because is also hilarious.) The last sane man in the White House agrees. Mattis gave his resignation over this and other things Trump has done recently. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46640114

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Sane or not, we don't need a warhawk Secretary of Defense.

Obama pulling troops out of Iraq was bad.
Trump pulling troops out of Syria is bad...
I am sure they will say Trump wanting troops out of Afghanistan is bad... 

There's a pattern. Supporting perpetual war, death, and destruction seems like an odd stance to take. We've been there long enough. ISIS will never 100% eradicated and the only thing we are doing by invading their lands, blowing up buildings, and killing innocent people is that ISIS will be around for generations to come. 

#BringOurTroopsHome

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That and this is all bullshit to begin with. The US doesn't care that people got gassed lol. The US has overthrown demcratically elected governments to install Dictators in both Iran and Iraq and that's not a conspiracy theory, that is historical fact. They support an apartheid state in Israel. They're just now talking about how fucked up the Saudi's are lol.  They don't care if Isis takes over. After 17 years in Afghanistan, the fucking Taliban is in power still. This all just imperialism. I'm probably gonna have people tell me I'm out of line or I'm a conspiracy theorist or whatever. It all seems pretty obvious to me though idk.

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3 hours ago, seanbrock said:

That and this is all bullshit to begin with. The US doesn't care that people got gassed lol. The US has overthrown demcratically elected governments to install Dictators in both Iran and Iraq and that's not a conspiracy theory, that is historical fact. They support an apartheid state in Israel. They're just now talking about how fucked up the Saudi's are lol.  They don't care if Isis takes over. After 17 years in Afghanistan, the fucking Taliban is in power still. This all just imperialism. I'm probably gonna have people tell me I'm out of line or I'm a conspiracy theorist or whatever. It all seems pretty obvious to me though idk.

 

What is your stance on Israel/Palestine? 

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First and foremost I think that Palestinian human rights are being severely violated. They're not totally blameless but subject children to a life under constant terror and instability is immoral and there is absolutely no acceptable justification for it. I think it needs to be said that there are a lot of Jews in the US and Israel that are on the right side of this fight but unfortunately they don't really have any power or much of a voice. This isn't a question of race or theology. Criticizing a corrupt and insane right wing government like Israel is NOT anti-Semitism especially when many prominent members of the Jewish community accross the world have condemned the Israeli government.

I see the merritt and pitfalls of both the one state and two state solutions. To me the boarders should return to the 1969 boarders. I mean, I honestly don't think it would be appropriate for me having never been there to offer too much of in the way of a solution. I think probably the best way to do it would be to feed and educate the Palestinian people and provide them with a secure place to live. Strapping a bomb to yourself is an act of desperation. Make them less desperate. Guarantee their human rights and maybe some wounds could begin to heal.

Not everyone's first instinct is to cower when backed into a corner. People in desperate situations act desperately. 

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Man, if Trump can end a bunch of wars... bring our troops home.. and even as unlikely as it may be, do something like audit The Fed -- he might be the greatest President of our era. Even accounting for how much of a slime ball and POS he is... Those would be YUGE check marks.

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I'm hoping for the best but I'm not sure I like the idea of giving him a second term. I think this is very much him running for 2020. Might not be the worst thing in the world with a dem majority in Congress TBH if the democratic primary is rigged in for a candidate hand picked by the donor class, we might be looking at Trump with another super majority and another supreme Court pick. Lol watch, even if it's not Hillary it will be someone like that fucking fraud Kamal Harris.

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On 12/24/2018 at 12:29 PM, seanbrock said:

First and foremost I think that Palestinian human rights are being severely violated. They're not totally blameless but subject children to a life under constant terror and instability is immoral and there is absolutely no acceptable justification for it. I think it needs to be said that there are a lot of Jews in the US and Israel that are on the right side of this fight but unfortunately they don't really have any power or much of a voice. This isn't a question of race or theology. Criticizing a corrupt and insane right wing government like Israel is NOT anti-Semitism especially when many prominent members of the Jewish community accross the world have condemned the Israeli government.

I see the merritt and pitfalls of both the one state and two state solutions. To me the boarders should return to the 1969 boarders. I mean, I honestly don't think it would be appropriate for me having never been there to offer too much of in the way of a solution. I think probably the best way to do it would be to feed and educate the Palestinian people and provide them with a secure place to live. Strapping a bomb to yourself is an act of desperation. Make them less desperate. Guarantee their human rights and maybe some wounds could begin to heal.

Not everyone's first instinct is to cower when backed into a corner. People in desperate situations act desperately. 

In some ways everybody's wrong, but it's going to be hard to get Israel to back down as long as Palestinians are strapping bombs to their chests.

I think the human rights violations by both sides are too severe for compromise at the moment. They'll need to truly commit to a pact of non-violence before anything is ever solved or agreed upon. Good luck with that. Unfortunately.

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Idk man. I see what you're saying but this isn't really a 50/50 situation. Palestinian people have their water shut off, they're denied electricity. They're being murdered in the streets. Like I said, they're not blameless but they're being sheltered and fed by Hamas while living under terror from the Israeli government. I think it's pretty clear to see how people could become radicalized. They literally have nothing to lose man. It's bad for them over there. Real bad, dude.

Think if you were Palestinian. How would you react? What would you do? Me personally, I'd fight. I think if we provided them with stability and hope for a better life for themselves and their families that I wouldn't all of the sudden erase the bad blood but it would incentivize peace rather than retaliation I'm.

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Democratic Senators Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand and Elizabeth Warren are expected to announce their 2020 presidential runs in the next several weeks. 

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Let the fun begin.

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3 out of 4 of those are absolute shit and I'm quickly souring on Warren. I mean, I get that you have to play ball to some degree but it seems like all she's good for is speeches and she was awfully quick to walk those comments back about the primary being rigged. At the end of the day I just don't think we can trust ANYONE that takes money from corporate donors or super pacs. 

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Nancy Pelosi has killed medicare for all with pay go and ANY other progressive policy goal. Won't stop them  from voting for that "traitor", Trump's next budget that gives the Pentagon another 100 billion and explodes the deficit again. There is only one party guys. Wake up people lol.

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Saw this right when I woke up at 5 am 🤣 

Master ass troll. Lmao. 

I do give her (Warren) credit tho. I think she recently came out and supported the troop withdrawal and said that these endless wars are unsustainable. That’s a big point / check mark— at least in my book. Especially in an atmosphere where everyone in Congress is acting like nation building and killing innocent people is cool. 

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If Warren was the nominee I'd vote for her but after Obama it's just hard for me to trust politicians. I don't really see how Obama was different from Bush. I mean, he did do some things I like but for the most part he was Bush part 2. He dealt with the economy the same way, foreign policy. He gave us a right wing health care solution. I know Than will disagree but Obama said HIMSELF that in Regan's era he would be considered a moderate Republican lol. We need someone who wants to break the establishment's back and utterly destroy it, not try to comprise with it. How much longer can we wait to do something about the environment? How much longer can we do nothing about the student loan bubble or the housing bubble? We need mass debt forgiveness. Like billions of dollars and we need to start making employers pay people. If not we're headed for another economic collapse and who knows after that? It would send shock waves throughout the world. People are getting pissed all over the world. Imposed austerity and all these trade deals and sanctions and proxy wars are gonna turn into WWIII. We're past the point where a incrimental solution is viable. We're reaching a tipping point. 

I need a candidate that is going to take these pieces of shit to war in the political arena and start saying shit that people are afraid to say. Start confronting people in power like Alexandria Ocassio-Cortez and Khana and Sanders are. Any Democrats unwilling to go to war with the Pelosi's and the Clinton's doesn't have the stomach to do what needs to be done. We need to destroy them.

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