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So can we agree that Trump should be impeached over killing the Epstein investigation? At the very least I want this investigated. Lock everyone up that was involved. We can get behind this right? 

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I don't know the exact details of that. But shit definitely needs to be investigated. Epstein loved him some Trump and Billy Boy. Both need to be looked at and cleared (or not) of their connections with him. Idk if the same holds true for Trump but in the height of his sex trafficking, Bill Clinton flew out to Epstein's private island dozens of times. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but come on... Should be a bipartisan effort to seek the truth.

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Lmao. Trump went on twitter and told four congresswomen of color- three of whom are born in the US- to go back to where they came from and fix their own countries before complaining about the US.

My manager in 2017 was fired for telling an Asian dude to go back where he came from.

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This election is going to be awesome. There is actually a candidate I can vote for this time. Tulsi is the only one I would even consider, the rest are dumbasses or just bad people. 

That cory Booker and his Spanish lol, with your fake bitch ass.

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13 hours ago, Omerta said:

This election is going to be awesome. There is actually a candidate I can vote for this time. Tulsi is the only one I would even consider, the rest are dumbasses or just bad people. 

That cory Booker and his Spanish lol, with your fake bitch ass.

Tulsi or anyone that will threaten the flow of corporate bribe money will be cheated by the DNC because as it turns out they're not legally required to run a fair primary Tulsi will have to run 3rd party to win but I definitely encourage you to at least temporarily switch registration to Democrat so you can vote for her in the primary and put the pressure on those bastards. The Democratic party is fucking trash and we need to blow it up and start over. 

I know some of you aren't Bernie fans but how is it that he has a million volunteers, 18 million in individual donations and has rallys with thousands of people wherever he goes but he's second to fucking Joe Biden? Lol the polls are being rigged so that people will accept it when the primary is rigged.

I won't vote for Trump at this point. He's just too awful but I won't vote for the Democrats to keep fracking and to keep deregulating/consolidating power further into the hands of the 1%. I'm most likely voting Green Party. 

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So all the pollsters are in on it too?

Which is more likely: All the polls are being rigged by the Democrats, or people are stupid and will support Joe Biden over someone who will actually bring some much needed change. Occam's Razor, dude.

Voting third party is not an option, IMO, you are helping to give the SC to the GOP for the foreseeable future. We do our best to get a progressive nominated, but if I have to vote for Biden to get Trump out of office, so be it. The long-term implications of this election- the census and the SC- are too damn important to this country. Allowing the GOP to remain in power for four more years is unconscionable.

At least vote Democrat for your Senators and reps up for re-election, even if you wont support some of them against Trump.

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Yeah, it all mostly name recognition and sound bytes right now. Joe Biden is running off that Obama Nostalgia -- I don't think it holds til the end, but who knows. Andrew Yang had a pretty huge gathering in Portland a few days ago. Way bigger crowd than you would assume for somebody polling at like 2%.  Polls can be deceiving, but it doesn't mean they are rigged directly. Maybe indirectly if they target only certain demographics or really specific areas of the country. Not even saying that happens, just saying that seems more practical at the very least. 

Also, I'm totally fine going third party again. I am not voting for a candidate who is exactly like Trump minus the dumb things he does and says on Twitter... If those are the hairs we're splitting, it doesn't even matter anymore. And unfortunately, I think the Supreme Court is already pretty much lost if you are looking for more progressives. Not accounting for unexpected deaths, really the only two I see dying / retiring are RBG (86) and Breyer (80). MAYBE Clarence Thomas (71). But if a democrat wins I could easily see him make it another 4 years to try and hold out for another (potential) GOP nomination. So yeah, Dems have no chance to flip the court, they just need to pray they win the election to keep the 5-4 minority. If not, yikes. lol.

The real time to strike will probably be in 8-12  years when you are looking at Thomas and Alito being gone for almost sure and Roberts creeping up there hardcore. If Trump wins this election and just for arguments sake gets 2 picks.. yeah, it's gonna be a super heavy GOP SC rule .. but only guaranteed for a few years and, as I mentioned before, we are probably getting that anyway. If Trump loses this election... and dems win the 2024 re-elections... More than likely we're probably looking at either a dog fight or another GOP president in 2028 when the potential for flipping happens and you have those GOP Justices start to fall away. If we get Trump in 2020.. I would almost guarantee a Dem takes it in 2024 then you get a very likely re-election in 2028 as an incumbant. That's probably the path for more progressive judges. 

Sure, I understand the argument that you want to replace the old Dems with new ones, but that still not shifting the scale -- especially if the GOP controls the white house in 2024/2028 when those GOP Justices start dying. Progressives need flipped seats, the retention (almost) doesn't even matter when you are looking at it as 2 dem justices in the next few years compared to 3 GOP justices in the next decade+. 

Honestly, if your argument is to save the SC... You might just want Trump to win in 2020. Then again, to counter my own argument... If Trump wins in 2020, he may be able to convince Thomas to retire midway through the term (2022) to secure that seat. But even in that case... Everything just comes out as a wash and Dems are still the likely minority on the SC through 2030+

 

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That's what I mean, i don't think they can flip it but it can't get to 6-3.

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On 7/16/2019 at 1:34 PM, Thanatos said:

So all the pollsters are in on it too?

Which is more likely: All the polls are being rigged by the Democrats, or people are stupid and will support Joe Biden over someone who will actually bring some much needed change. Occam's Razor, dude.

Voting third party is not an option, IMO, you are helping to give the SC to the GOP for the foreseeable future. We do our best to get a progressive nominated, but if I have to vote for Biden to get Trump out of office, so be it. The long-term implications of this election- the census and the SC- are too damn important to this country. Allowing the GOP to remain in power for four more years is unconscionable.

At least vote Democrat for your Senators and reps up for re-election, even if you wont support some of them against Trump.

Why is it crazy to think the pollsters are in on it? Bernie Sanders has the biggest grass roots campaign in the history of the country. Think about that. Every single democratic presidential campaign is either some bastardized version of Sanders' platform or they're running to oppose his platform of democratic socialism. Bernie Sanders has pretty much single handedly changed the conversation on a lot  of issues like health care, minimum wage, student loan debt and more. They've been smearing the man 24/7 for 3 years for a reason lol. They've been scrambling trying to throw their weight behind like 5 candidates and haven't found one that would legitimately challenge him and they're all falling flat on their face. Say what you want about Sanders but him and Trump are the most popular political figures in the country and the only one that comes close is AOC who wouldn't even be in Congress if it weren't for Bernie Sanders. 

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/05/tyts_john_iadarola_cnn_poll_showing_biden_in_the_lead_sample_statistically_insignificant_number_of_voters_under_50.html

 

You're nuts if you think it's only CNN rigging polls. 

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Lmao @ the idea that Bernie is just so good everyone has to rig everything against him.

Seriously need to get off your conspiracy sites man.

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22 hours ago, Thanatos said:

Lmao @ the idea that Bernie is just so good everyone has to rig everything against him.

Seriously need to get off your conspiracy sites man.

There's proof that things are being rigged against Bernie lol. It's not a conspiracy "theory", it's a fact. We just don't know exactly how pervasive it is. As for the polls, we know that it's been proven that polls are being sampled from audiences that are biased against Sanders. I literally just posted that. Tulsi Gabbard, Donna Brazile and Elizabeth Warren have all been on record saying Bernie was cheated in 2016. Gabbard and Brazile were both very high up in the DNC, confirming btw what WikiLeaks had already proven.

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That’s what I was just going to ask actually. I was wondering if you were talking more 2016 while Than was thinking  more currently.

You’re absolutely right about 2016. The nomination was stolen from him / for Hillary. The DNC has been planing that Clinton power play for yearsssss. 

Is that still a problem today though? I mean, I will read any facts you have that say otherwise but I don’t think it is.

A combination of more progressive candidates in the pool plus Bernie’s willingness kneel to the establishment in 2016 makes him considerably less desirable. If Bernie can’t / won’t even challenge the DNC for being crooks and cheats .... why should I expect him to stand up for me when he is in the White House? Frankly, I don’t.

Plus, doesn’t it feel that overall he just has less steam ? Maybe that all changes as we whittle away at the candidates ... but I think Warren has stolen a lot of Bernie’s mojo . Regardless of your opinions of her, she’s playing to a lot of the same crowd as Bernie and she’s probably not exiting anytime soon. 

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@DalaiLama4Ever They pollsters are rigging their sampling towards older voters right now. They ask shit to Bernie & Tulsi like "Why do you hate America?" On the debate stage and the rest of the field gets soft balls like "How will you stand up to Trump?" Obviously I just made those examples up but you get my point. We haven't had any primaries yet but that call in voting thing is pretty suspicious to me and I'm fully expected them to remove voters from registration in the closed primary states and just flat out throw out votes like they did in 2016

Oh and I saw that this morning. Lol Wonder if that's the only thing Warren got in advance...

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Are you inferring some Dems would get like... oh.. idk.. questions ahead of time? I find that absurd, sir! Pure poppycock! 

Also went to a town hall with Andrew Yang at my states capital. Great answers.  I hope with nobody but Biden on night 2 of the debates that he can create a moment for himself and start making waves in the polling. He has the potential. 

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Sean, the answer to that one is someone got hot fingers and sent out the email they were making ahead of schedule. They weren't going to wait until 8pm to write the email. Yeah, it's a fuckup, but it's the same thing as the NFL putting up graphics of teams before they've won their playoff games.

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2 hours ago, Zack_of_Steel said:

Sean, the answer to that one is someone got hot fingers and sent out the email they were making ahead of schedule. They weren't going to wait until 8pm to write the email. Yeah, it's a fuckup, but it's the same thing as the NFL putting up graphics of teams before they've won their playoff games.

I would have a much easier time believing that had it not been for the shenanigans they pulled in 2016. I don't give the DNC an ounce of respect, credibility, or trust. They're proven liars and thieves. 

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11 hours ago, seanbrock said:

I would have a much easier time believing that had it not been for the shenanigans they pulled in 2016. I don't give the DNC an ounce of respect, credibility, or trust. They're proven liars and thieves. 

 

I think they're crooks, too, but this just doesn't seem in keeping with the tone of their bullshit.

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Does Trump like, not think that video recording exists? He doesn't even stop the chant at all, it dies off and then he continues speaking, yet he then tries to make it out like he started talking to get them to stop the chant and that he did it "very fast" and then called the people doing the chant "a very patriotic crowd." AND tried to act like his tweet wasn't what started the chant because he was the one who originally said they should go back to where they came from. Fuck this racist piece of shit. Dems have certainly played the race card a ton, but this is just black and white racism at this point. He's not even really trying to hide it, he's just going all out to win the states he thinks he needs to win the electoral vote.

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Literally nothing matters, evidence doesn't matter, the rule of law doesn't operate.

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12 hours ago, Zack_of_Steel said:

 

I think they're crooks, too, but this just doesn't seem in keeping with the tone of their bullshit.

Yes it does lol. Donna Brazile and CNN gave Hill-dogg debate questions ahead of a debate in 2016. Why do we keep giving people who have lied over and over the benefit of the doubt? They were pulling this shit, literally one election cycle ago and all the leadership is the same. There were no consequences and nobody was charged with any crimes. We see the exact same thing with the wall street bankers. No consequences for 2008 so back to business as usual.

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Budget deal has been struck. Democrats may hate Trump, but they love his obsession with spending money. 

Cant wait for the election. 

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Why so we can get shafted with the choice between Trump or Kamala Harris? No thanks lol.

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On 7/21/2019 at 8:06 AM, seanbrock said:

Yes it does lol. Donna Brazile and CNN gave Hill-dogg debate questions ahead of a debate in 2016. Why do we keep giving people who have lied over and over the benefit of the doubt? They were pulling this shit, literally one election cycle ago and all the leadership is the same. There were no consequences and nobody was charged with any crimes. We see the exact same thing with the wall street bankers. No consequences for 2008 so back to business as usual.

 

They do shit behind the scenes. This is blatant and out in the open.

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12 hours ago, Omerta said:

Why so we can get shafted with the choice between Trump or Kamala Harris? No thanks lol.

Lol fair point 

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So our new EPA people have decided we can use cyanide bombs to kill wildlife again. Hooray....

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