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#1 BwareDWare94

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:09 PM

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This is a sad, sad day for me. I respect his decision to ensure better quality of life later on but he has several good years left in him. I'm just glad we got to watch him return to form during the playoffs and Super Bowl victory a year ago.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:50 PM

He was a hell of a player and it didn't take long for him to be a respected leader in the Broncos locker room. I'm glad we could win him a super bowl ring, and I hope he has a great life after football.

 

How soon does he get into the hall of fame? Does he get into the hall of fame?


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:06 PM

10 years at most IMO. He's a sure-fire HOFer I think. 


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:29 PM

Hall of Famer with zero doubt.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:44 PM

For sure going to the HOF. Glad we got to see him win a ring, and even better it wasn't with the Cowboys.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:58 PM

10 years at most IMO. He's a sure-fire HOFer I think.


He's first ballot in my book.
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Posted 14 March 2017 - 09:41 AM

He's first ballot in my book.

Oh yeah without a doubt. He had a run of a few years where he was arguably the best defensive player in the game. Zack would probably yell at you about Harrison being better in coverage but wtf does he know :troll:


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:59 AM

I really think he'll have to wait a little beyond his first year of eligibility, but I might be wrong. 


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:05 PM

He's in...second year probably at worst.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 04:06 AM

Oh yeah without a doubt. He had a run of a few years where he was arguably the best defensive player in the game. Zack would probably yell at you about Harrison being better in coverage but wtf does he know :troll:

 

No I would say Harrison was as good if not better at rushing the passer, but was in coverage like 30% more.

 

Both should be in the HoF.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 09:02 AM

The biggest difference between the two is that Ware was as good for a longer span of time, but I would attribute that to physical gifts that Harrison wasn't blessed with
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Posted 20 March 2017 - 03:24 PM

The biggest difference between the two is that Ware was as good for a longer span of time, but I would attribute that to physical gifts that Harrison wasn't blessed with

 

You're clearly uninformed, then...

 

Harrison has long been known as one of the strongest players in the league and he was our best LB at age 38. He just signed a 2 year contract.

 

Additionally, the only reason Ware was around for a longer span was because Harrison was backing up Porter until 2007 when he was pushing 30. He was an undrafted FA that nobody took seriously for years, but he stuck on the Steelers roster that heavily favored vets under LeBeau by wrecking shit on ST. The two knocks I had with LeBeau were not giving the young guys a chance and not adapting to the Patriots.


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Posted 23 March 2017 - 07:52 PM

 

You're clearly uninformed, then...

 

Harrison has long been known as one of the strongest players in the league and he was our best LB at age 38. He just signed a 2 year contract.

 

Additionally, the only reason Ware was around for a longer span was because Harrison was backing up Porter until 2007 when he was pushing 30. He was an undrafted FA that nobody took seriously for years, but he stuck on the Steelers roster that heavily favored vets under LeBeau by wrecking shit on ST. The two knocks I had with LeBeau were not giving the young guys a chance and not adapting to the Patriots.

 

I'm talking about length and speed, and James Harrison now is not close to what he was years ago, and hasn't been close to that since he went to Cincinnati. Ware's prime was longer, and would have been even longer if not for a neck injury. James Harrison was a great player. DeMarcus Ware was better and his later career years in Denver were better than Harrison's later career years in Cincy/Pittsburgh. Harrison may have played in coverage more, but as of right now we're talking about a 50 sack difference.

All that being said, I'm glad we still get to watch James Harrison play.


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 03:33 AM

Sorry, but volume rarely beats average and factoring snap counts and pass rush attempts, Harrison  wins in Sack% while also being miles better in coverage. Not to mention he has a DPOY award and maybe the greatest play in SB history under his belt.


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 04:02 AM

well we all know the greatest play in SB history was the David Tyree Helmet catch, but the 100 yard pick six has a place in the top 5 I'm sure.


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 09:15 AM

You mean the pick 6 that only happened because of 2 or 3 uncalled illegal block in the back penalties?

And sack percentage, really? Ware still has over 50 more sacks than Harrison. You can't base your argument on what might have happened.

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 03:36 PM

You mean the pick 6 that only happened because of 2 or 3 uncalled illegal block in the back penalties?

And sack percentage, really? Ware still has over 50 more sacks than Harrison. You can't base your argument on what might have happened.

 

Fucking please. The minute I accept anything you have to say regarding fair play and reffing is the minute the line in my will kicks in and I head to Oregon to get assisted-offed.

 

And yes, Sack%. Are you kidding me? Guess Favre and Manning are the greatest QBs ever. Stafford should be MVP because he throws the ball 600 times a year. Some RB avgs 2.5 YPC and rushes for 2,500--HOF!


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 08:29 PM

maybe the greatest play in SB history under his belt.

 

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 09:06 PM

That play was a 14 point swing... lol. Literally the Steelers would not have won without that play. 


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