seanbrock 1,684 Posted December 3, 2017 Spirituality? Accountability to who for what? You still have a - you need to earn respect and favor through slavery mentality.Thats not spiritual.thats capitalism. Taxes,social security numbers and illegal alien classification wasn't the idea of a supreme being that lives outside time and space. Why would God need money? While you're at it, Try explaining the story of Lot. I choose you to live.Leave the city..but while you're at it,go ahead and offer your daughters for gang rape..and then after I kill your wife for a pointless reason..I'm gonna let you get drunk and gave your daughters come up with the bright idea of having sex with you. Youre spiritual....but better than another man because of your job status? You're spiritual but judge another through words on a forum with no real understanding of of a situation personally. Hipocracy and ignorance isn't spiritual. You mock me with no actual evidence to support your own beliefs...but your spiritual? You've got a lot to learn kid. So do I but I'm definitely more aware of my surroundings then you are yet. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted December 3, 2017 There was 3 I believe in the top 10. Look at the top 25, which are the stats I quoted. Look at the other link he had. Blue states dominate red states there. lol Just ignore him. It's time to let the troll talk himself out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turry 755 Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Personal accountability in life has virtually no affect on corporations and governments fucking us over. It's a nice bed time story and a feel good thought but it's not true. The leader of your country is a former reality tv star/host and has been on record in past before his run for presidency saying awkward and revolting stuff. That's one of the reasons why America is in the shitter. Edited December 4, 2017 by Turry 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted December 4, 2017 Would you agree the measure of success you have in life is up to the individual ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piggly Wiggly 960 Posted December 4, 2017 The amount of entitled, instant-gratification, I want college for free and be paid $15 for flipping burgers at McDonald's overly sensitive millennial cunts is what's a big problem in America. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted December 4, 2017 Nah, i just don't like my tax dollars going to billion dollar corporations so that they can save money staffing their companies.I guess socialism is only ok for corporations though. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piggly Wiggly 960 Posted December 4, 2017 Again..if you need to compete to live,mankind is a failure. You are saying you subscribe to a class system and worship money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OSUViking 505 Posted December 4, 2017 The amount of entitled, instant-gratification, I want college for free and be paid $15 for flipping burgers at McDonald's overly sensitive millennial cunts is what's a big problem in America. Sounds like the butthurt in society in general is a bigger issue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted December 4, 2017 Love me some Conor McGregor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turry 755 Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) There is a reason they want 15$ it's called a wage to live on. Like actually live, be able to buy food be able to sleep in a warm place. You know basic nessecities everyone should have. So ironic coming from Phil. Edited December 4, 2017 by Turry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted December 4, 2017 There is a reason they want 15$ it's called a wage to live on. Like actually live, be able to buy food be able to sleep in a warm place. You know basic nessecities everyone should have. So ironic coming from Phil. You should definitely have a livable wage, thats not a $15 flat rate across the US though. You don't need $15 an hour to get by in Kentucky, for example, whereas $15 an hour in New York City is likely not enough. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted December 4, 2017 I like how PhilElliot treats the concept of fiat currency like it's this insane revelation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted December 4, 2017 Conor McGregor is a great fighter and all but the way Piggly Wiggly worships him...just come out of the closet already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted December 4, 2017 He is not just a great fighter though. He is honest about the process. That is why I love the guy. Well that and were both off the boat Irish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted December 4, 2017 Chances are good I'm more Irish than you. I think the dude is definitely smart and I think him and Floyd played the race angle BRILLIANTLY to sell that fight but at the same time I don't have his fucking face on my undies either. No grown man should worship another grown man the way Phil does Conor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted December 4, 2017 Chances are good I'm more Irish than you. I think the dude is definitely smart and I think him and Floyd played the race angle BRILLIANTLY to sell that fight but at the same time I don't have his fucking face on my undies either. No grown man should worship another grown man the way Phil does Conor. Well lets see, my mom met my dad in Tipperary Ireland while he was there visiting from Cobh Ireland to see his friend before heading back to Cobh. I was born a year later in Clonmel. I came to Kansas where my great Uncle settled as a homesteader. If you are 101% Irish I would be fascinated to hear how. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) You were born in Ireland? Damn, well I got grand parents off the boat on both sides. Got a little bit of native American in there because my great great grandfather married some woman named Mary Paradise. Guess you do have me beat. Not many do though that's for sure haha My grandfather's grandfather had to leave Ireland because he was a whiskey bootlegger lol. Edited December 4, 2017 by seanbrock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted December 4, 2017 You were born in Ireland? Damn, well I got grand parents off the boat on both sides. Got a little bit of native American in there because my great great grandfather married some woman named Mary Paradise. Guess you do have me beat. Not many do though that's for sure haha My grandfather's grandfather had to leave Ireland because he was a whiskey bootlegger lol. I honestly can't tell you how far it goes back, my grandpa did a genealogy study about the Slattery family bloodline, and he traced it back to the 15th century I believe. That being said from that far back nobody can really tell you who was who, and if they didn't have some British blood in them because of the Norman invasion. There were a lot of settlements that were also British when they first tried to conquer Ireland, so it's hard to tell if I am 100% Irish. That being said, my mother and father and all of the family on both sides can trace their lineage back to Ireland for the last several hundred years. I will eventually move back there and bring my children with me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted December 4, 2017 It does feel like the only place in the world where my psychotic alcoholism would be truly accepted. You might be onto something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted December 4, 2017 Oh no make it a flat 15, i could use some extra cash!! Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted December 4, 2017 You should definitely have a livable wage, thats not a $15 flat rate across the US though. You don't need $15 an hour to get by in Kentucky, for example, whereas $15 an hour in New York City is likely not enough. I'm glad someone else is on board with me on this, yes, minimum wage needs to go up, and yes, there are places where it does need to be $15/hour, but no, it doesn't need to be $15/hour everywhere in the country, that sort of increase would cripple a lot of small town economies. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted December 4, 2017 I'm glad someone else is on board with me on this, yes, minimum wage needs to go up, and yes, there are places where it does need to be $15/hour, but no, it doesn't need to be $15/hour everywhere in the country, that sort of increase would cripple a lot of small town economies. Good luck trying to implement a tiered system... It would have to change based on location, probably gender, marital status, number of kids or dependents... Wayyyyyyy too complicated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted December 4, 2017 Good luck trying to implement a tiered system... It would have to change based on location, probably gender, marital status, number of kids or dependents... Wayyyyyyy too complicated. Is it though? I feel like an algorithm based on cost of living or some compilation of numbers and figures could do a good job. There are economists that do this everyday. I'm sure multiple people have already come up with rough formulas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted December 4, 2017 Good luck trying to implement a tiered system... It would have to change based on location, probably gender, marital status, number of kids or dependents... Wayyyyyyy too complicated. it's basically what we have now, a federal minimum that states are free to set something above, which many states do, basically what I'm saying is go ahead and raise the federal minimum wage but it doesn't need to go all the way to $15, leave that for the states that need to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted December 4, 2017 The thing is, it should have been $10 an hour years ago.... even in a state with low COL like Pennsylvania. So $15 seems like a lot, but it's not. Inflation should be the biggest factor in determining what's a living wage and what isn't. I wouldn't go lower than $12 an hour, to be honest. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites