Jules

I don't even care what is said about the Jaguars at times. It is no joke, that team can make me more nervous when the Colts play them over ANY other team in the league. Those bastages give us fits no matter what their record or who they have at QB. They can sometimes run the ball for 1 million yards on us. They can find new and creative ways to beat us and sometimes in the final minute. Even the best Colts teams sometimes went down to the wire with the Jags. Division rivals be division rivals.

I still prefer the old school Peyton stuff. "Cut that meat. Cut that meat."

Just noticed this thread browsing a bit back in the archives. Wanted to give it a bump up.

Well that would mean the Giants have to stop the "curse of hosting the Super Bowl" if you believe in it. After the Colts and Saints the last few years I am starting to wonder. Of course maybe the Giants and Jets cancel each other out and there is no doom. But, I am very iffy about the team hosting the big one.

I think the Lions have some good talent. I don't think they are a very smart team though until proven otherwise. I usually expect them or their coach to implode in some way in a lot of games. Until they gain some maturity and mental toughness I am not sure I see them living up their potential yet. BWT on a side note, it's not entirely impossible for the Packers to reach 14-2. Not saying they will but having the best QB in the league alone is enough for me to never count them out in any game. Of course often this just works in the regular season...come playoff time the Pack will need more then Aaron. In 2011 they had a bad defense, shaky o line IMO and a shaky run game and basically won off of Rodgers and those receivers I felt. JMO though.

I actually have had the feeling lately it is the Falcons year. But, who the hell knows. I am having more issues this offseason then usual getting a true feel for so many teams so I am really not making official predictions. A lot of question marks out there and a lot to be determined. A lot of new pieces added everywhere, a few aging HOF QBs and a lot of injuries already. I do like Atlanta though and they have often reminded me of the "old Colts" with Manning and eventually one of these seasons I think they may break through and win it all. I was not high on Atlanta for several months this offseason and even was looking at the other teams in the division, but lately I am starting to dig them. I actually do not think that is a terrible SB prediction either. I could easily see one of the big favorites in one conference meeting up with an underdog fringe playoff team in another. But, if this SB happened give me Atlanta over Cincy even though the dome team would have to win in a cold outdoor environment.

Well, I like it.

New stuff from Snowden. http://rt.com/usa/nsa-snowden-us-media-russia-486/

I knew there was a reason I had originally put "doom" in the title.

Exactly. It's everywhere. But, don't let that fool ya. We are doing just fine in the country and everyone has hope and rainbows under Obama!!! Lets not forget that tons of people can't afford their own homes anymore, get a decent job and Obamacare if it happens is about to screw over a ton of good honest hard working people around the country. And all those who say everything is fine? Follow them and be the sheep you are supposed to be!! IMO it's common sense at times that things are not going well and have not been for some time no matter what they pump us in the media or how often they manipulate the stock market. And yes our last 3 Presidents have made me want to vomit. We are rocking and rolling!!!! Up swing here we go!!!! Whooo hoooo WTG economy!!! WTG Obama!!!

Article: http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/muslim-brotherhood-claim-weve-got-goods-on-obama/#eqyx393m8HRzCTBe.99 And... http://shoebat.com/2013/08/13/does-jailed-brotherhood-leader-have-goods-on-obama/ Guess we'll see.

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Thanks for the well thought out reply. lol I had totally forgotten about this thread!! I will have to think about this stuff a bit more again. Nice points on secret societies too btw. Nice lines here: And

I know lol, I felt almost bad typing that.

I still have trouble being optimistic though. I am fortunate to have a good job that I have had for some time but it's not the case with many. There is a lot of debt out there. Many I know in their late 20's/early 30's are struggling badly and several of them have college degrees. Those with children are struggling even more. A lot of the jobs they brag that are being created are part time jobs or nothing to get excited over. The good jobs are just not here anymore, or enough of them to go around. Around half the country might be on government assistance. I have read that a record high level of young adults are moving back in with their parents or some relatives. Obamacare (if it even happens) will screw over a lot of small businesses in America. Someone did tell me that people are buying more "stuff" this year. This is true actually. Cars, washing machines, dishwashers etc. have been selling this year I was told. But, there is a natural cycle there. You have to replace things every so often. So even if the economy and a normal way of life "stays afloat" and we still manage in the USA...the "American Dream" many older folk grew up on is pretty much dead IMO. Not to mention values in America that I remember growing up with and general hope and pride for America is declining too I feel.

It would be like the American/Russian Hunger Games with adults.

I hope you are right Vikingfan but I am going to stick with my prediction as of now of epic economic chaos of some kind in the future. A year ago I predicted we would end up meddling with Syria eventually and we have slowly been getting involved there. I am hit or miss with doom predictions so there is hope. I wasn't going to post any more links but here is one I found interesting: http://www.moneynews.com/Outbrain/interview-exposes-stocks-collapse/2012/09/20/id/456981?PROMO_CODE=109C0-1 .........

I won't be able to prove it to you with any information you would be willing to accept as any sort of truth. But, it is all around us and the signs are everywhere and have been ongoing for SOME time. It's just a matter of us as individuals making up our own minds based on what we know and experience and what we believe is the truth or non truth. Minds are not easy to change, especially in today's society. And minds are especially made up when it comes to politics or religion quite often. We are more divided then ever likely as a whole. I am probably just a lot more pessimistic, but I see no reason for future optimism either until proven otherwise. I hope the economy does not collapse to the point it could cripple this country eventually, but I can't see how it doesn't happen sometime either, now or in the future far too soon. BTW sorry for getting the thread OT from the Muslim rumors. I am not sure this will develop into anything anyway if it were true since our "leaders" are often bullet proof. And sadly even if something did come out the Muslim brotherhood is probably as trustworthy as our own government. JMO

I already said it may not be even true. But, we all know shit is out there...so I am allowed to speculate too. lol most sources can be bad. I consider just about every mainstream source also to be bad. This day in age about every link we find can be called nonsense. I do not recognize Obama as anything more then a corrupt sock puppet, I do not acknowledge him anymore as the leader of the country I was born in. If that makes me un-American then so be it. But, the economy IS going down and will crash eventually...someday. There are millions of ways to find out about it, I am not going to post all of it, do your own research and critical thinking. The proof of the economy is right in front of you. All they do is lie. It will happen someday and maybe sooner then later, just be prepared.

Of course we don't even know if claims like this are true. And the general media often does not cover jack shit. Another thing that is truly alarming is the state the economy is in but it's not talked about enough if at all!! They just tell you what you want to hear. It's in bad shape. http://offgridsurvival.com/headingtowardseconomiccollapse-stepstosurvive/ And no it's not just an Obama thing, it started long before him.

Yeah. One of the main reasons I never really belonged/associated with ANY political party either. They are all corrupt.. Our last 3 Presidents especially have been real "gems".... My first memories of a President are with Reagan, I was far too young to really grasp it though. But, there is something about/with Obama that makes my skin crawl more then anyone else, ever.

Haha who ever even knows what the F is going on between America and Russia at times.

Fucking disturbing. Someone invented this for women.... http://www.sheweeusa.com/shop/custom.asp?recid=1

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/08/michelle-obama-releasing-rap-album-but-she-doesnt-170422.html Michelle Obama is releasing a rap album. I shit you not.

Ahhh interesting. He IS real. He thinks he could have been an answer to their own prayers being there. But he never said what they thought they heard? Hmmmmm....... I guess in times of tragedy and despair it is sometimes hard to figure out what really happened later. But, I am glad he was there and the girl is okay. I love this stuff.