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Russell Wilson will make a hell of a coach way down the line when he's done playing football. He's a leader of men.
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I have already. It's a thread in the NFC West forum. Also, as far as the qualifying and non-qualifying plays, those are hypotheticals that are based off his judgement. That's including plays where the ball didn't get thrown to their side and the receiver may have appeared open but completely factoring out if the cornerback possibly recovered to make a play on the ball. I'm not so much for blind faith. I'd have to see it myself. Targets and receptions is a more reliable quantifiable stat and is a better indicator of success rather than what could have possibly happened or not.
But this was my main stance and it's a huge one that can't be downplayed.
There is no downplaying the difficulty of that assignment week in and week out. Now to have comparable stats to Richard Sherman and Revis's job was considerably harder, it makes the choice very easy for me. Single man coverage against the teams best receiver, no help over top, and moved all over the field including the slot compared to, cover 3 press zone scheme, stays on one side, and has an all pro safety over top of him. It's just not comparable to me at all.
Fair enough. However just because Sherm hasn't been utilized like that, doesn't mean that he wouldn't be as effective or even more effective than Revis if he was. I still think Sherm will be the best CB going forward, considering Revis' injury.
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I'm don't feel knowledgeable enough to post about the other divisions, so I'll just do the NFC West.
NFC West
Passing yards: Carson Palmer - Considering last year's numbers despite the lack of quality WRs in Oakland, and Arians propensity to air it out, this one is an easy choice.
Passing TDs: Russell Wilson - As someone else said, 26 last year despite the limitations placed on him for the first half of the season.
Interceptions: Carson Palmer - Behind that sieve of an OL, Palmer will be hurried a lot.
Best QB completion %: Russell Wilson - Over the final 8 reg. season games, he was 67.2%. At Wisconsin he was 72.8%.
Rushing yards: Beast Mode - Read option improved the Beast's ypc significantly. Might get less carries with Michael and Turbin vulching, but his yardage shouldn't suffer too much.
Rushing TDs: Beast Mode - If Hunter wasn't splitting with Gore (pending Hunter stays healthy), I'd say Gore considering the loss of Crabtree.
Receptions: Larry Fitzgerald - Self explanetory.
Receiving yards: Larry Fitzgerald - Also self explanetory.
Receiving TDs: Larry Fitzgerald - Also self explanetory.
Receiving YAC: Percy Harvin - Best YAC WR in the league.
Tackles: Bobby Wagner - 140 as a rookie, he's only going to get better.
Tackles for loss: Aldon Smith - Because Bennett will be playing inside more than outside.
Sacks: Aldon Smith - As long as Justin Smith stays healthy.
Interceptions: Richard Sherman - Had 8 last year, and will be playing more man coverage in Quinn's D. More blitzing will also give him more opportunities.
Forced Fumbles: Brandon Browner - Most physical CB in the NFL. (Although both Sherman and BB had 3 FF in 2012)
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What Revis is asked to do is more difficult than Sherman's without a doubt. In their Cover 3 Press zone scheme, he presses his receiver and bails out staying over top the receiver; in that one zone. How can that compare to having to chasing WRs all over the field and not always having the sideline to assist him all the time. Also defending in the slot can't be underrated here because that's one of the more difficult assignments covering WRs in all that space.
Like I said, I don't want to over emphasize that Sherman has a safety over top. But I'm not going to undervalue the fact that he has an all pro safety over top and say he doesn't take pressure off his corners. That's the free safeties job in a cover 3 lol.
You should check this article out. Breaks down both Sherman in Revis on all man coverage snaps by shut downs, in position, and busted coverages.
http://presnapreads.com/2013/05/16/richard-sherman-the-numbers-the-tape-the-verdict/
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And like I said, if we're ranking these guys based on their careers to date, Revis is #1 with a bullet. But I set out to predict who I think the best cornerbacks will be in 2013. And based on very comparable seasons between Sherman's 2012 and Revis' 2011, and some slight concerns for Revis from the beginning of 2012, and the fact that he's coming off an injury, I'm better that Sherman will be better this year. One also has to think that Sherman is still ascending at this point in his career, while Revis' best football is probably behind him.
Totally agree. Interesting to note, Revis exploded and had his best season in year three. The way Sherman has been progressing, he could very well do the same. All media accounts from the OTAs and minicamp have said they hadn't seen Sherman get beat once.
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How much are you guys paying Rice right now? I'll tell you this much, you didn't pay him to put up 484 yards in 2011 and 748 yards in 2012 lol. As for Harvin, you guys gave up a 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder next year, and a 7th rounder. Considering he's never put up 1000 yards in a season, I don't know how you can act like you stole him, especially considering alot of analysts weren't even sure if the Vikings could get a 1st round pick for him. You gave us one and more. And as for Winfield, congrats, he's a very good football player, but don't act like the Vikings are dumb and don't know talent. Just remember the Vikings offered him more guaranteed money than the Seahawks did. Oh and lastly, thanks for taking Tarvaris Jackson off our backs. His play was sinking the team and we needed someone to take the bait. Thanks.
Rice is definitely being overpaid in relation to his production, but he is a clutch receiver who consistently makes freak catches. I'm sure his salary will be addressed after the season with Sherman and Thomas coming up for extensions. I love how people always used the 1000 yards receiving benchmark to downplay Harvin's value. Clearly he's not the prototypical WR. His value is in his explosiveness and multiplicity... dude averages over 6 ypc running the ball, and has 5 KOR TDs in 4 years. He'd probably have even more if he wasn't used as sparingly the last two years. Oh, and lastly, you're welcome about TJack. His career numbers are very similar to Ponder's, except TJack is our backup now, not our starter. Joke's on you!
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I never understood why people got so worked up with him coming in 2011. Yes, his play leaves a lot to be desired. He was never brought in to be an answer at QB, just merely a stopgap. We needed to move on from Hass, and in the lockout shortened offseason, TJack came in knowing Bevell's offense. He served the role exactly how Pete and John envisioned.
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Love Michael Bennett and I am pissed we didn't bring him back, but I don't think I'd put him up there yet. I'd like to see another year of how he played like last year. If he does it again though, then no doubt he should be on the list.
Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel about him. He's going to be an integral part of the pass rush along with Avril to start the year with Irvin out and Clemons probably on the PUP (even though he's ahead of schedule, I doubt we risk him until he's 100%).
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So having more talent around him causes ET to be underrated? Interesting take. The other side of that argument would be that Weddle's production has come despite not having reliable teammates around him and being by far the least targeted player in his secondary.
I try not to be a homer, and I don't think I am with my take on Weddle. FO and PFF agree that he was better than everyone not named Jarius Byrd in coverage last season (and the season prior for that matter). And of the people who are in the conversation with him coverage wise, none come close in terms of his ability to drop into the box and fill vs. the run or rush on a blitz. Taking all that together, I have no hesitation calling him the unrivaled best.
But I agree with the players on your list. It's straight up stupid that you guys added arguably the best NB in the league to your secondary (allowing that he plays at 2012 levels).
I would have included Michael Bennett on my list. One of the best LE's anywhere in 2012. And Zach Miller is good enough to make that list if given the opportunities. I really prefer the overall amount of talent on the Seahawks to the 49ers, truth be told.
Well when you think about it in terms of the position they play... FS is the safety net if the first and second lines of defense fail. On a subpar D, safeties are likely to see a lot more action. IMO, Weddle's numbers would go down some if he had Seattle or SF's defense. Maybe I'm just a homer, but either way Weddle and Thomas are two of the best safeties in the game.
Accidentally pulled a T-Jack and forgot about Zach Miller. Like Rice, he's very talented and one of the better TE's, but under utilized. I'm hoping we can get him involved more this year like he was in the Atlanta game... he went off.
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Why is everyone running around wringing their hands for Arizona? They're not good. They're HORRIBLE. This world beating defense that everyone is giving them extra credit for gave up more than 20 ten times, 30 four times, and once they gave up 58. That's right. That's the number before 59 and after 57. a shit ton of points. They're dog shit every year, and until they finally stop being dog shit, I'm just gonna continue business as if they are still, in fact, dog shit.
To be fair, it's hard for a defense when they're ALWAYS on the field. Also, only a handful of those 58 points were scored by their D allowing a long drive. Most were scored because their offense turned it over inside their own 40. Then there was Sherman's pick 6, and Patrick Peterson's muff that was recovered in the endzone for another TD.
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It doesn't equate to the height of the Ravens and Steelers match ups. No where near as brutal. Sorry.
That's only a small portion of the violence in those games, that I could find in gifs. Hell, in the last game alone Vernon Davis, Mario Manningham, and I think one other 49er were all knocked out of the game with injury. The 2011 game in Seattle there was extra-curricular pushing and shoving and near brawls after every play. I'm surprised that no one's been ejected in the last four meetings.
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-Free Safety: Eric Weddle is the best safety in the league' date=' period.[/quote']Disagree. Earl Thomas' stats are on par with Weddle's (relative to time in the league), despite being on a better defense with more playmakers.
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S: Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor.
CB: Richard Sherman, Brandon Browner, Antoine Winfield.
LB: Bobby Wagner
DL: Brandon Mebane, Chris Clemons.
OL: Russell Okung, Max Unger.
RB: Marshawn Lynch
WR: Percy Harvin, Sidney Rice
QB: Russell Wilson
S/T: Jon Ryan
Of that list, I'd say Chancellor, Winfield, Clemons, and Rice are above average, but not by a lot, for various reasons. Rice has the talent with the freak catches he makes, but not the production. Clemons has been consistently very good since we acquired him for the LEO, racking up 11+ sacks in three straight years. Winfield is one of the best slot corners, the best against the run, but average in coverage. Chancellor is perfect for what we need him for making plays up in the box, but his coverage skills are average at best.
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As it stands right now, the Seahawks vs 49ers are the best rivalry in football. Will it live up to the intensity of the Steelers vs Ravens match ups with the franchise and historic legends like Big Ben, Hines Ward, Ed Reed, and Ray Lewis? I'm not sure. Those Steelers vs Ravens games were brutal. We are talking broken bones, bloodied noses, tough, knitty gritty, smack mouth football. Steelers vs Ravens games seemed to embody what football really was; a tough and violent sport. You knew you were in for a great football game when they squared off. The Ravens vs Steelers games was a great rivalry for years. You can't just be better than a historic rivalry in just one year. The Seahawks and 49ers are two young and very talented football teams that should be good for a long time. They make for some exciting games but they have some years to go before they can reach the height of the Ravens and Steelers rivalry.
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NFCW Title, make NFCCG.
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I'd weigh in on Sherman, but the kid annoys me so much that it wouldn't be anything other than heavily biased. That's a pretty rare combination of talent and insecurity he's got there.
You might see it that way, but he's not insecure in the least. He's confident and arrogant with a chip on his shoulder. But he has the skill and intelligence to back it up.
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Revis is too good to be compared with Sherman. Sherman is just a smack talking punk that's all. Dont get me wrong Sherman had a hell of a season last year, but he's not the best after 1 year. Not even close.
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1. DL. Hope to see more push from the middle with the addition of Jordan Hill and Jesse Williams, and more consistent pass rush from the outside from everyone not named Chris Clemons. Our run stopping needs to regain old form, which starts with Red Bryant staying healthy and Jesse Williams being effective from the get-go.
2. How the defense plays under Dan Quinn. With drastically improved talent from 2010, I hope to see (and think we will) more blitzing, particularly from the bandit packages, considering the vast depth at DB.
3. Russell's seamless continuation of his play from the last half of 2012.
4. Percy Harvin, Christine Michael, Chris Harper, and Luke Willson.
1. How Gus Bradley does in his first year.
1. How Matt Flynn does (if he starts).
2. Taiwan Jones' conversion to CB. Kid is electric, needs to be on the field.
1. Matt Johnson staying healthy and playing a lot. Measurables are nearly identical to Kenny Vaccarro's, he will surprise a lot of people.
1. Brandon Kaufman dominating in the preseason and earning a roster spot.
2. EJ Manuel.
SEA vs. SF, STL vs. SF, Sherman vs. Roddy White, Sherman vs. Revis, Wilson vs. Luck, Saints' first return to Seattle since Beast Quake, Luck, RGIII, & Tannehill's progression, Alex Smith reverting to old form in KC, and lots of other stuff I'm probably forgetting.
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1. Niners/Hawks games. I have to admit, that this could be the first time ever that Seattle has really had a rivalry this intense. Seattle didn't seem to ever be a main rival in the AFC West. I mean we hated Raiders and Broncos but I don't think they hated us back quite as much.
Similarly, Other than maybe when the Saints briefly threatened the Niners, I don't think they had a main rival worthy of a good back and forth. By the time we started to get good in the 00s, the Rams were in a decided decline. It just never seems that the NFC West has had 2 good teams at the same time. The fact that we do now and they are physical, brutal affairs makes it even better.
It feels like we have, what the NFC East and North have enjoyed for extended stretches of time. A division where the games have massive importance with championship implications.
2. Watching Russell Wilson ascend to greatness. From afar, I can see how there can be some degree of 'prove it' sentiment. Without having been watching it from the beginning, he looks like he went on some fluke magical run in a short amount of time. Anyone can get lucky hot for a month or two. He went 4-4 to start and there was some measure of luck involved with that.
But having watched him all year, I don't feel that way in the least. Wilson has consistently shown consistent glimpses of quality even from the first game on the road. You could tell from the very first game, that he had one element that all the great QBs have that cannot be imprinted on them by coaching. He has unwavering poise under intense pressure and he has a magical ability to perform when the game and moment becomes it's most intense. On the outside, it can look like luck. But from a boots on the ground perspective, you can see that Wilson makes his own luck. On a team full of quality players and veterans, Wilson owned the club in the clutch. There were 4 games last year that Wilson essentially won the game for the team only to have the defense just inexplicably lose it. 4 losses that could/should have been 4th quarter comeback victories.
Wilson grew literally week to week. Very quickly, but deliberately. His ability to work and overcome issues is unique to behold. When he makes mistakes, it's the last time you'll see him make that particular mistake. It's really amazing, that he was able to improve as he had, despite being 3rd on the depth chart for his first training camp in the pros.
By all accounts, Wilson is pretty much running the practices at this point offensively. His grasp on this team and it's future is completely and totally undeniable. I would not be shocked in the least if Wilson were allowed to call his own plays at some point in this season. I can't wait to see how scary good this team can be because I believe Wilson is going to ascend to elite status and do so early in 2013. Four of our six losses were the result of the defense not holding on to Wilson's wins. I believe Russell is not going to allow for that and will put teams away harder this season.
I couldn't have said it any better, Attyla. Glad you're posting over here, you represent 12's very well! :allhail:
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Roger Goodell joins Douchebags Anonymous.
Jim Harbaugh doesn't throw a single fit all year.
Alex Smith plays his way into MVP consideration.
The Jets beat the Pats.
Richard Sherman doesn't talk shit about Revis before the Bucs game.
Oakland goes 8-8 or better.
Titus Young finishes the season on an NFL roster.
BEHOLD THE BOLD.
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That's an awesome .gif, but Browner is one of the more overrated corners in the league. He's big (fucking SIX FOOT FOUR! corner) and he's physical. His coverage skills? Meh...
He's overrated, but not by a whole lot. Agreed about everything else though. I think we'll let him walk as long as Tharold Simon develops adequately.
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This thread's gonna be a lot of fun this year.
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I would most definitely resign Okung. He's had a slow start to his career with injury and penalties, but when he's on, he's dominant. Here's what Pro Football Focus had to say about him on their top 100 of 2012 list:
55. Russell Okung, LT, Seattle Seahawks (Unranked)The first thing you notice when you look at Okung are those horrible 13 penalties he was flagged for. But when you start looking past that you see a former first-round tackle who, by the end of the season, may have been the best tackle in football. He was that good. Okung was exceptional in pass protection, especially given his quarterback’s proclivity for holding onto the ball.
Best Performance: Week 4 at St Louis, +5.6
Key Stat: Gave up 18 combined sacks, hits and hurries in 17 games.
As for Browner... there's a reason why we drafted Tharold Simon.
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Current player in the league that would be best coach
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That's a pretty ignorant statement, considering you said RANGA nailed it with his. You don't think Russell has excellent people skills or an innate ability to manage different personalities while getting the best out of others? He transferred to Wisconsin and was voted a captain by his teammates within weeks of arriving, along with mastering a new offense and playbook in the same time frame. He did pretty much the same thing in Seattle. He's also highly intelligent and a tireless worker... all qualities that great coaches have. Me being a Seahawk fan doesn't negate the truth of the pick.