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    Percy Harvin - WR - Seahawks

    Mar 11 - 6:22 PM

     

    The 2014 "mid-round pick" the Vikings are acquiring as part of the Percy Harvin trade is expected to be a third-rounder.

     

    It means the Vikings are coming away with a first-, second- and third-day pick in exchange for their No. 1 receiver. It's still not equal value for a player of Harvin's caliber, but far exceeds what the Dolphins received for Brandon Marshall. It also betters the package Randy Moss fetched in 2005. It's a small price to pay for an elite receiver still two months shy of his 25th birthday.

     

    Source: Danny O'Neil on Twitter

    http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football?rw=1

     

    This just keeps getting better.....

  6. Posted

    Percy Harvin - WR - Vikings

     

    A source "close to the team" tells CBS' Jason La Canfora Percy Harvin's issues with the Vikings have been "widely mischaracterized," and are about "the scope of the passing game" and not his contract.

     

    La Canfora's source claims Harvin has "not complained about his deal to the team," and never threatened to hold out. This directly contradicts most of what's been reported since Harvin's Vikings future became an issue again earlier this month. Regardless, La Canfora believes the situation could "come to a head" as early as next week. Reports going back to last summer have indicated Harvin was going to make noise about his contract this offseason, so it strains belief money has nothing to do with his most recent drama. Whatever the issue is, trade rumors should only intensify in the coming days.

     

    Pelissero: Percy Harvins contract demands have Vikings in tough spot

     

    Percy Harvin has the Minnesota Vikings in a pickle, and he knows it.

     

    The whole NFL knows it, which only makes it more challenging to extract value from a dynamic, 24-year-old playmaker who has griped and priced his way towards the trading block, at least for now.

     

    "Everybody thinks they can change guys," a personnel man for another NFC team said this week. "How's he going to be in a winning locker room with a solid quarterback? Stuff like that comes into play, and you begin to walk down that road or think, 'Oh, we could change this guy.'

     

    "But (expletive), be careful, because if (expletive) does go wrong, you know who's going to be the first one up. And this is supposed to be a guy that you're paying as a leader."

     

    Harvin wants more than that, though several factors -- a specialized skill set, a complicated medical history and a well-documented pattern of insubordination -- limit the marketplace for a player who, on talent alone, could practically name his price.

     

    Word circulating in league circles is his agent, Joel Segal, is starting the bidding upwards of $10 million a season, which would make Harvin one of the NFL's 10 highest-paid receivers no matter what Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings and Dwayne Bowe command in free agency.

     

    The real goal may be $12 million a year, if not higher -- more than any receiver except All-Pros Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. That kind of compensation is a bigger issue for teams that have discussed a deal for Harvin than the draft pick(s) it'd take to land him.

     

    "He's not a conventional, traditional wide receiver where you line him up outside and he's going to win one-on-ones with the full route tree," an executive in personnel for an AFC team said.

     

    "You've got to kind of manufacture some things to get the ball in his hands, and when you do, he's unique and he can be explosive. But I just don't see him as someone who's worth a number one pick."

     

    Maybe things would be different under the old collective-bargaining agreement, when guaranteed money was skyrocketing and virtually every team in the top 10 was trying to trade out. Now, those first-round draft picks are too cheap and valuable to part with on a gamble.

     

    The executive guessed the Vikings could end up with a second- or third-round pick, plus another pick to sweeten the pot. The personnel man said he thought they'd be lucky to get a third-rounder, considering perception around the league about the Vikings' predicament.

     

    "He's an elite player," an AFC personnel director said. "The thing about him is, if there wasn't the migraines and the attitude stuff and all that, if he was just straight clean and a great guy, they could get the house for him. They could probably get a couple of ones for him. Obviously, a guy of his ability, somebody's going to want to take a shot at him."

     

    Every NFL team deals with one or more players like Harvin. Not many give up a high draft pick and perhaps $25 million in guarantees to actively import someone else's problem when they have young players of their own awaiting paydays, though.

     

    That lends credence to the idea everything to this point -- including Harvin's camp floating word he won't play for the $2.9 million he's due on the last year of his rookie contract -- has been about leverage and reconciliation with the Vikings remains the most likely outcome.

     

    But it's just as possible the Vikings don't believe all the money in the world will make Harvin any happier about the offense and the quarterback and the coaches, leaving them in an even tighter bind if they meet his demands and relationships keep going south.

     

    "They're worried about paying the guy, and they know the guy," the NFC personnel man said. "Well, why would the team that doesn't know him (pay him)?"

     

    The same flags that have plagued Harvin since the 2009 draft are waving again after an inspiring, but tumultuous six months that began with a surprise trade request during June's minicamp and ended with him rehabbing an ankle injury at home in Florida during the Vikings' playoff push.

     

    In between, Harvin delivered an MVP-caliber performance for nine games and had two documented confrontations with mild-mannered coach Leslie Frazier -- one on the sideline in Seattle over frustration with quarterback Christian Ponder and the offense, the other in front of some teammates and staff members at Winter Park.

     

    After all that, re-signing Harvin to the second-richest contract behind Adrian Peterson's $14.38 million-per-year megadeal could send a dangerous message that he's bigger than the team that played some of its best football after his Dec. 5 move to injured reserve.

     

    Harvin long has been respected for his ability and fearless approach, but one veteran teammate who has been Harvin's ally in the past said on Wednesday his volatile personality has become "too big of a problem" to make a major commitment.

     

    "In my mind, it really comes down to whether (Vikings general manager) Rick Spielman, (vice president of football operations) Rob Brzezinski and those guys see Harvin as long-term," said ESPN NFL business analyst Andrew Brandt, who was the Green Bay Packers' chief contract negotiator from 1999 to 2008.

     

    "If they don't, we're dealing with a lame-duck year one way or another. If they do, try to create some kind of contractual situation that works for both sides. I don't think anyone doubts that he's a special player. He's a blue (chip) player. The question is, can they live with whatever else that brings in terms of off-field, in terms of infecting anyone in the locker room?"

     

    There also are concerns within the Vikings organization about the rate at which Harvin will age, given his style of play and a variety of health concerns more extensive and complicated than anyone outside the organization knows.

     

    Dealing Harvin for a second-round pick, as unpalatable as that might sound on the surface, would eliminate the headache as well as give the Vikings cash to chase a vertical threat such as Wallace in free agency, and perhaps use that extra pick to keep remodeling the receiver corps.

     

    At the same time, if Harvin were hitting unrestricted free agency, there's a chance he'd get a bigger deal than anyone in the unusually deep "A" tier of receivers likely to hit the market on March 12 -- some of whom may be reluctant to jump into a run-first offense with a young QB.

     

    "He's got more versatility and big-play ability than Bowe," the personnel director said. "He's younger than Jennings. He can get vertical like Wallace can, but Wallace is a real straightline (player) and Percy's got a whole lot more wiggle to him. He's got (Wes) Welker's quickness, but far better speed. Arguably, you can say he might be the top guy of that group."

     

    So, the Vikings figure to bide their time if they're not blown away with an offer, although they have plenty of reason to want resolution one way or another before April's draft.

     

    The only other option is playing a game of chicken, betting that Harvin would sooner show up and play to prove everyone wrong than risk significant fines for holding out during training camp and eventually having to choose between showing up at midseason or having his contract tolled.

     

    "I would assume they'd be making some selective calls that way to see what they can get," the AFC executive said. "But it doesn't mean you have to trade him. They could just gauge the market to see if it's worth trading him."

     

    The ultimate question isn't whether a team would want Percy Harvin, who could elevate any offense in the NFL.

     

    The question is whether a team would want Percy Harvin, who has placed himself in the position where these conversations even need to take place.

     

    "If we pay big money to him knowing that he's not necessarily our type of guy, you're definitely creating a rift in the locker room," the personnel man said.

     

    "I think it's going to take a very special situation. Whether it's a young team or somebody that's close to thinking they're one guy away. I just think it's so frickin' risky. And (expletive), he's one of my favorite players in terms of scouting just to watch."

     

    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Pelissero_Percy_Harvins_contract_demands_have_Vikings_in_tough_spot021313

  7. Posted

    Percy Harvin - WR - Vikings

    Feb 12 - 7:55 PM

     

    An NFL executive tells NFL.com's Ian Rapoport he would be "shocked" if the Vikings netted better than a third-round pick for Percy Harvin.

     

    Then the Vikings should keep him. The executive apparently believes the pricey extension Harvin will command — including perhaps in excess of $30 million guaranteed — will depress his value. Harvin's character and health concerns are also working against the Vikings. It wouldn't be shocking if a team enamored with Harvin's talent took the plunge and ponied up a second-rounder, but a day-one pick is looking like a pipe dream for GM Rick Spielman.

     

    Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

    http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football?rw=1

  8. Posted

    Adrian Peterson - RB - Vikings

    Feb 7 - 2:16 PM

     

    Adrian Peterson (sports hernia surgery) says he first suffered the injury in Week 10, and "questioned whether (he'd) be able to continue" by Week 16.

     

    "Each week it just got worse and worse and worse," Peterson said. "The pain was a 10 on a scale of 10 (by Week 16)." The admission makes Peterson's historic 2012 that much more revelatory, as he averaged 163 rushing yards per game after first getting hurt. The Texans game makes sense as a low point, however, as Peterson could manage only 86 yards on 25 carries, and came out late. Peterson expects to resume working out in 3-4 weeks. As NFL.com's Albert Breer opined on Twitter, Peterson is proving to be the real-life Bill Brasky.

     

    Source: Josina Anderson on Twitter

    http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football-player-news

     

    There is no way this guy is human....

  14. Posted

    Thank you! Finally another Vikings fan that agrees we need a big receiver to take some of the workload off of Harvin (who I personally believe would thrive more in the slot, but that's just opinion).

     

    EDIT:

     

    I also think we could use another DT, since Kevin Williams is getting old. :shrug:

     

    I completely agree about DT. Fortunately this years draft is pretty deep at DT and we could land a solid one in rounds 2-4.

  15. Posted

    We desperately need a big bodied WR.... Well actually more like three...

     

    Some guys I am looking out for are:

     

    Keenan Allen

    Cordarrelle Patterson

    DeAndre Hopkins

    Terrance Williams

    Justin Hunter

    Da'Rick Rogers

  17. Posted

    Pelissero: Triceps shut down, Christian Ponder had no chance to play

    Updated: January 7th, 2013 12:27pm

    by Tom Pelissero

    1500ESPN.com

     

    EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- Christian Ponder got a strange look in his eye when the question was asked but insisted everything was OK.

     

    It was Tuesday, four days before what was supposed to be Ponder's NFL playoff debut, and the Minnesota Vikings' quarterback told reporters he had every intention of being ready.

     

    But Ponder already knew he was in trouble. The blow Green Bay safety Morgan Burnett delivered to his throwing arm two days earlier had left too deep and painful a mark.

     

    "Once I left the game on that Sunday, it was pretty tough to even move it," Ponder said on Monday, a wrap covering the bruise as teammates cleaned out their lockers at Winter Park.

     

    "We were optimistic. We put a lot of time and treatment and we saw progressions each day that maybe we had some hope that by 7 o'clock Saturday night I'd be ready to go. That just didn't come into fruition."

     

    It wasn't just a bruise. The triceps muscle had shut down to the point Ponder couldn't even lob a soccer ball during a session with the Vikings' athletic trainers the day after the injury.

     

    The elbow area was so swollen there was a belief from people who saw the arm Ponder had a recurrence of the bursitis that plagued him during his senior year at Florida State.

     

    In reality, there was no fluid to drain. Ponder simply had no strength in the triceps and knew after an abbreviated pregame workout he still couldn't throw the football.

     

    Backup Joe Webb got the start and the Vikings offense struggled mightily in a 24-10 loss to the Packers, ending their surprising season in the NFC wild-card playoffs.

     

    "Obviously, it wasn't as much fun as I wanted it to be," Ponder said. "I wanted to be out there. Frustrating day. But out of my control."

     

    Peeling back the wrap covering the arm on Monday, Ponder revealed a yellowed upper arm and purple streaks that extended from his armpit to the elbow.

     

    He is gradually regaining flexibility, to the point he now can raise a football to his chest -- which is an improvement over where he was two days ago.

     

    The only work he got in team portions of practice last week were a series of handoffs, interspersed with the lightest of throwing sessions on the sideline.

     

    "I think it's something that will heal up," Ponder said. "No surgery or anything. Just giving it some time and it will get there."

     

    There is no question within the organization Ponder did everything he could to play on Saturday, no matter how it looked from the outside.

     

    Despite the pain, he played his best game six days earlier, completing throwing for 234 yards and three touchdowns in a 37-34 win over the Packers that propelled the Vikings into the postseason.

     

    He got by on adrenaline then before the worst of the pain, swelling and stiffness kicked in. He believed until the end he had a chance to do it again.

     

    But even Ponder knew by the time inactives were due at 5:30 p.m. Saturday that Webb gave them a better chance to win, no matter how poorly things worked out.

     

    "To know that we had a game like that in Green Bay, we had a very good chance of winning that game," Ponder said. "For myself to let my team down, that's what hurts the most."

     

    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Pelissero_Triceps_shut_down_Christian_Ponder_had_no_chance_to_play010713

  19. Posted

    If they do decide to trade him (which I hope they don't) I would package him with a 1st round pick to the Cardinals for Larry Fitzgerald. Another pipe dream of mine :D

     

    That would be awesome to see Fitz back home in Minny but he would definitely have to restructure his contract. We can always dream though. :biggrin:

  20. Posted

    Percy Harvin - WR - Vikings

    Jan 2 - 5:37 PM

     

    Percy Harvin (ankle) hasn't returned to Vikings Park since being placed on injured reserve on December 5.

     

    Harvin is rehabbing away from the team in Florida. Although that's not odd in and of itself, it's a bit unusual for a marquee player during a playoff run. It, of course, could also be construed as evidence that relations between the Vikings and Harvin are strained. Due just $1.55 million heading into the final year of his rookie deal, Harvin will almost certainly be pushing hard for a new contract this offseason.

     

    Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune

    http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football-player-news/

     

    Frazier on Harvin not being around team: 'It's purely up to him'

    Posted by: Mark Craig under

    Updated: January 2, 2013 - 4:12 PM

     

    Remember Percy Harvin? Pretty good player? Pippen to Adrian's Jordan? Once led the league with 62 catches? Was considered an early league MVP front-runner until he suffered a torn ligament in his left ankle at Seattle on Nov. 4?

     

    Well, his name came up today because Harvin hasn't been at Winter Park since being placed on injured reserve on Dec. 5. (And, btw, the Vikings might want to consider forwarding his mail because it's piling up in his locker).

     

    The Vikings have gone 5-2 without Harvin on the field or, for that matter, anywhere near the team. Coach Leslie Frazier was asked today about Harvin's situation. Here's the exchange with reporters:

     

    Q: Is it by design that Percy is not around or would you prefer that he's here?

     

    A: "It's purely up to him. If he wanted to be around, he could be around. But the guys are working hard doing everything they can. I know he wants our team to do well and that's important. But we got some other guys who are on IR as well, so it doesn't concern us."

     

    Q: Have you talked to him?

     

    A: "Not lately."

     

    Q: Is he in Florida?

     

    A: "Yes."

     

    Q: Is it odd that a player as high profile as Percy not being here?

     

    A: "No. I know he's supportive of his teammates. As any of the guys who are on IR that don't travel with us or don't participate in what we're doing, it's nothing that upsets their teammates or gets them concerned. These guys are so focused on Green Bay and getting ready for that game. That's what's most important."

     

    Q: Is it routine for a guy on IR when he's not going to come back to rehab on his own?

     

    A: "Not on his own. We monitor his rehab."

     

    Q: So [head athletic trainer Eric] Sugarman is in contact with Percy?

     

    A: "Yes."

     

    Q: What is the status with his ankle? Will he need surgery?

     

    A: "I haven't been told he's going to have to have surgery."

     

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/185463891.html

  21. Posted

    I actually think Chip Kelly would be a great fit with the Panthers. But IDK if they'll get rid of Rivera, and probably won't know by Wedsnday at the earliest... I was just hearing Lurie talk this morning (morning for me is 2 PM) when I woke up, and he pretty much described either Chip Kelly, or Kyle Shanaham.

     

    Everybody seems to think Arizona is gonna promote their DC, but I don't think that's a good idea. They need to find an offensive minded HC imo.

     

    Chip Kellys offense with Cam Newton would be nasty! Sounds like a good match to me.

  23. Posted · Edited by Smell My Face

    My guesses for where coaches will end up:

     

    Chicago: Mike McCoy

    Buffalo: Lovie Smith

    Philadelphia: Chip Kelly

    Kansas City: Kirk Ferentz

    San Diego: Bruce Arians

    Arizona: IDK...

    Cleveland: I wanna say Nick Saban or Bill O'Brien but I doubt Saban would want to leave for Cleveland, and Bill O'Brien can't be that big of a dhouche... Can he?

     

    This is hard yo

     

    Some of the articles I have read say the Eagles wanted Kelly but it wont happen because he wants complete control of the team.

     

    I really think Arians ends up in SD like you mentioned.

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