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On 3/6/2019 at 6:43 PM, DalaiLama4Ever said:Steelers are telling teams they want best offers in ASAP so a deal can be done Friday or sooner... Raiders keep coming up... I know I have said this, but that just makes NO SENSE. Raiders dismantle their team and best players to acquire boat loads of picks just to send those picks away for a 31 year old (admittedly talented) WR? Whyyyyy?
Again... why? At least in my feeble brain -- I see no logic in this whatsoever.
The mistake is thinking about this logically in regards to what Gruden has already done while in Oakland. If it seems like a decision they SHOULD make...lean towards the opposite unfolding. The other thing is that AB has swagger...enough to share around the Raiders locker room ten times over. I have a feeling it gives Jon the warm and fuzzies knowing he could bring that to his team just before heading to Vegas.
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9 hours ago, seanbrock said:I think the 2013 super bowl was more about Denver choking than it was Seattle dominating. I think anytime you get a super bowl with a final score that lop sided it's because one team simply didn't show up or was just out coached really bad.
Getting out-coached really bad and getting dominated are basically the same thing in most cases.
32 minutes ago, Vin said:Broncos actually beat the Pats when it mattered.
Advantage: Broncos
True, but.....
Can we really say that SB loss was the Seattle players' fault? More the OC, from my perspective. We all know Lynch had like a 95% chance of wrecking that D-line from the 1 if they had given him the ball.
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LOB for days.
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And down falls the first domino in the off-season QB drama.
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I think a lot of this is a smokescreen tactic. If I was running the Steelers, I would not, in good conscience, hand over a weapon of that caliber to a system that just won a Super Bowl without a legitimate WR1. I think any perceived shift simply serves as a catalyst for other teams to come forward with a competitive offer, to prevent something like that from happening. Reverse psychology at its best.
Then again, maybe I'm wrong and the Steelers' management is really that stupid...or desperate to get rid of him.
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I'm already hearing Combine rumors of a Flowers to Miami deal. Possibly up to $15M a year. If that's true, it's a terrible investment, no matter how good the guy is. The whole idea was to free up wasted cap space (Branch/Tannehill/Quinn) to rebuild the foundation through the draft and supplement through free agency with solid depth players. One high-priced free agent doesn't translate to wins when everything is broken. A turd covered with deodorizer is still a turd.
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Congrats, OSU. Staying sober is never easy. But the more you work at it, the better you get at it. I'm currently heading into my 3rd month sober after a lengthy drinking relapse last year. This is the first time I've managed to stop without going to treatment, but progress is progress. "One day at a time" is one of those overused cliches that actually prove very true. Keep at it.
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I know each of us has that one cursed sequence of events in our team's history that stands out among the rest. Just curious to know what yours are.
For me, it's way too easy. The day Miami waived Drew Brees due to "medical concerns". The doctor who oversaw the shoulder surgery and the recovery confirmed he was 100% healed, even going so far as to say it was no more at risk of re-injury than before the labrum tear. Obviously, medicine is an imperfect science, but if a specialist gives that kind of vote of 100% confidence...come on. Over a decade later, Brees and the Saints continue to crush my soul with every great season and record surpassed, while we continue to hunt for the next Marino and at least a halfway decent year that doesn't rely on gimmicks like the Wildcat. Miami's QB scouting department is mediocre at best, so my hopes are slim. Amplifying the frustration is that Brees preferred Miami by a large margin.
Even months later, when it was obvious Saban had messed up, he doubled down, insisting it felt like the best call at the time. And yet...we went with a guy who had completely shredded his knee the season before. Medical concerns? Spare me. Any number of excuses would have sounded more plausible than the one he chose to hide behind.
We went into 2006 with a defense led by Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Vonnie Holliday and Yeremiah Bell. Mostly aging, but still solid. The offensive skill positions boasted Ronnie Brown (who very well could have won ROTY had it not been for Carnell and Ricky) and Chris Chambers (coming off a career season), along with Marty Booker and Randy McMichael...far from elite, but more than capable of being productive if Brees had had a chance to throw them the ball. I know there's no way to know for sure he would have succeeded in South Florida...between personnel changes, O-line play, offensive emphasis and passing schemes, a number of things could have stunted his development. But maybe they wouldn't have. One thing is for damn sure...Culpepper was the wrong direction and we've felt it ever since.
TL;DR: Saban is a great NCAA coach, but an NFL idiot.
Okay...whew. Glad to get that one out. /rant
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4 hours ago, Packers Dynasty 2010 said:If they trade a 1st for AB, they will look dumb.
Will they, though? Character issues aside (very difficult to do)...he's in his prime with few competitors. Trading an unproven first rounder for All-Pro talent in the WR1 spot seems like a good deal, strictly from a roster building standpoint. But again, this is assuming they're willing to shell out the funds and risk any stability they might have had in the locker room...if they had any to begin with.
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2 hours ago, FartWaffles said:Kareem Hunt needs to be on this list.
Agreed. I feel so conflicted about the Browns signing him. I realize Dorsey played a role in picking him up in KC, but...really? Further proof that enough talent nearly always equals a second chance. Nearly.
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On 1/28/2019 at 5:17 PM, BC said:Dude. The R words really need to get their shit together. Have they ever in their history had a long term solution / franchise quarterback? I think that would be a decent new years resolution.
Baugh and Theismann had pretty decent tenures...
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If I were the Niners, I wouldn't risk the potential downside. There's no questioning his talent, but with all the other issues they have to address this off-season, I think they should work on rebuilding other parts of the roster. I guess if the FO were to make the gamble on Jimmy G's full recovery by September, they might go for it. But I don't know if it makes him any more worth the potential drama if they end up struggling to win games.
The Colts have an ungodly amount of cap space, so I sincerely doubt money will be an issue. They already have established talent in Hilton, meaning more headaches for defensive planners. Luck is a great option to be catching passes from at this stage in his career. I could also see Houston in the mix, but I don't know how much space they're going to lose in a restructured deal with Clowney. Both teams are also far more prepared, in my opinion, for a deep playoff push than SF or Oakland. AB likes to win, and we've seen these types of scenarios unfold enough times in the past to know how divas behave once their new team fails to meet expectations.
As for the second question, unequivocally...NO. Miami has so many needs, and they've had more than their fair share of diva personalities over the last decade. I'd rather see them lose than watch yet another locker room drama play out.
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2 hours ago, RazorStar said:I feel like the Bucks are the team to watch in the East. Giannis is a freaking beast, and they play offense and defense so well.
I've seen a few writers/commentators highlighting the Mirotic move as one of their favorites of the deadline. He rounds out an already impressive starting lineup.
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2 hours ago, RazorStar said:I am dead inside. If this was our glorious plan we could have just kept Trevor Siemian for all the good it'd do us.
Take comfort in knowing they won't have the worst QB in the league. That'll probably be Miami's title to lose.
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Can't say the breakup surprises me as much as the destination. I thought Denver would go after a QB in the draft. I guess they still might, but it just seems like an odd move. I wonder what the contract particulars will be.
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On 2/12/2019 at 4:30 PM, FartWaffles said:Well Kyrie had been on record saying he wants to play for the Knicks before being traded to the Celtics, and this was before any chance of Zion being in the plans. Doubt he plays with LeBron ever again. I didn't even know the Lakers were even rumored to be pursuing Kyrie...
You'll have to forgive my NBA ignorance. I don't know much. Maybe they weren't. I more or less just inferred based on speculation by Bill Simmons and some ESPN commentators that LeBron wanted to bring him out there. That may be totally untrue.
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On 2/1/2019 at 12:05 AM, FartWaffles said:Knicks gonna Knick!
I honestly thought they were on the right path, especially if they were to draft Zion and the rumors of Kyrie wanting to play there. Now...
My question is...would Irving honestly ever consider the Knicks, based on a hypothetical that they MIGHT get Zion, if LA were making considerations to woo him? Unless Kyrie just wouldn't want to play in LeBron's shadow again...
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1 hour ago, Thanatos said:Well you also have to tolerate the Seahawks fans so that's a big ask.
To each their own. Say what you want about the Mariners and Seahawks, but the fans are loyal and the atmosphere is pretty awesome. Plus the Coast Guard station is only a few blocks away and they basically let vets park there for free if there's room. I haven't been to any other stadiums to compare to, though.
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4 hours ago, DalaiLama4Ever said:My brother just got out of the Navy and was out in Washington . He too loves it out there, says he plans on staying for quite a while at the least — maybe forever.
It's pretty close to a retiree's paradise, at least in my opinion. Beautiful scenery, decent medical facilities, prime real estate, community that generally loves their military. It checks off a lot of boxes. Just depends on how willing you are to tolerate a little rain. Small price to pay.
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13 hours ago, BC said:You're probably snowed in like the rest of us around Seattle? Good time to come back
I wish. I miss WA. Been stationed in NJ for a little over a year now. Middle of nowhere and 30 minutes from anywhere. Let's just say I won't be retiring out here
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2 hours ago, FartWaffles said:How would you feel if they draft Kyler Murray?
To be fair, I don't know enough about him to form an honest opinion. I've heard good things about him, but as a whole I haven't heard enough about any one player to make me think they're a ringer for an instant starter role. Every guy seems to have enough chinks in the armor to make any of the picks questionable if you're looking for immediate results. Murray has his smaller than average stature and possible split commitment with baseball, Rypien might not be mobile enough, Jones might not have the touch he needs on the deep ball, etc. I realize that's usually how scouting goes, but after 20 years and more than a dozen QB's, I'd prefer the Phins hold out for the near sure-fire bet. That's in a perfect world...there's no such thing as a sure thing. So then you have to worry about finding that bridge QB, of which there are few to choose from without having to dig deeper into their pockets than they should. Miami's poor cap management is one of the main reasons they're in their current situation to begin with.
If Miami decides to stick to WC style play over the deep ball, maybe Haskins would be nice to have, with the kind of accuracy he showcased. But there's no way to get him without trading way up. And could he handle the pressure of passing behind Miami's less than amazing line?
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Polar. Much more entertaining than I thought it would be, even though the violence got gratuitous and distracting at times. Mikkelsen was solid. At this point he basically strikes me as the Danish version of Liam Neeson...am I the only one who gets that vibe?
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I've no doubt, Tannehill will find work somewhere else. Part of me hopes he ends up somewhere else in our division and actually thriving, like Welker did with the Pats. I think Ryan's taken far more criticism than he deserves for Miami's offensive shortcomings. Not to mention...how many HC's and QBC's has he had now? Hardly any stability, and rarely a good enough surrounding cast. Despite all that, he's still the third longest tenured starting passer in franchise history with respectable, but modest, numbers. He's never going to be an elite QB, but he deserves better, imo.
I suspect Miami is considering the "Tank for Tua" path, seeing as how there are no significantly better upgrades at the position available at this time. It's too bad Trevor Lawrence is ineligible for 2 more years. I'd heard Foles' name get tossed around, but honestly I doubt he's worth the cap hit while the Phins are on the fringe of going into rebuilding mode. I'd also read Bridgewater was on the radar. Honestly, they should just tear it all down and really start over, like Cleveland. That includes the inept FO personnel. If only we had Dorsey running operations.
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Haven't seen any games yet, but I'm hoping to catch a few and see what it's about. Part of me hopes this can take the shape of a stable farm league for the younger undrafted and the veteran comeback hopefuls. At a minimum it could offer a pool of players for teams to grab for practice squads in the pre-season.
P4L's Stream of Consciousness: AKA The Random Musings of a Disgruntled Fins Fan
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I figure it's best to just have one thread I can throw all my random thoughts into rather than pollute the forum with dozens of different topics. The biggest things on my mind at 2230 LST, when I should really be resting up for my promotion test tomorrow, are as follows:
The Tannehill dilemma: I really respect him as a person and as a guy who's never seemingly been a locker room distraction. He's a good dude with a good work ethic, and he's going to find a team. Having said that, I concede it's time to dump the wasted money and continue the trend they already started by releasing Branch and Larson. The answer, in my opinion, is not to pursue anyone in free agency. No one there is really worth it. I'm thrilled they didn't decide to flush away $20 million on Foles. Don't get me wrong...he's easily the most clutch you'll see from a backup being paid like a starter. Might be because he used to be a starter, but I digress...
No free agency. The solution is simple. When I first heard the growing hype around Murray, it wasn't hard to take Kingsbury's old quote and do the math. Kyler's stock went way up once everyone found out he's a half inch taller than whatever the dreaded arbitrary height threshold is for "successful" NFL QB's, or that he didn't have tiny Trump hands. So then I started wondering about Rosen...and then I heard analysts and pundits discuss it out loud and now I'm feeling pretty strongly about it. Miami should trade for him. Especially if the Cards are willing to accept the absurdly low price of a third rounder. Miami could even sweeten the deal by offloading Parker to an Arizona offense that could use a little depth at WR. Fitz won't be ageless forever. Both guys get a fresh start on a team with a need at those respective positions. And Miami cuts a solid amount of cap space with 2 personnel moves they were going to make anyway, while obtaining a potential franchise QB in the process. And if he doesn't pan out, Trevor Lawrence just so happens to be draft eligible the same year Rosen's rookie deal is up...unless I've done my math wrong. There's almost no way Miami loses in this scenario, the way I see it. Am I crazy? I'm curious on other people's takes.
Frank Gore and Cameron Wake : Wake is probably my favorite Dolphin since Marino. I love his leadership, attitude and of course the fact that even at his age he's still an athletic freak of nature. I'll be sad to see him walk away from Miami, but if I'm honest, there aren't many players in the NFL without a ring who deserve one as much as him. I'd be thrilled to see him end up with a contender like LA or KC. Maybe the Saints. He upgrades the depth of basically any 4-3 line he ends up on. Somebody will take him. Maybe the Colts, now that I think about it. They almost have enough money to buy a small country...they might as well spend some of it on a great leader with a solid pass rushing resume. Ballard is a freaking genius over there. As for Gore, I hope the Fins re-sign him. Not because they need his rushing talent (although they do), but because they need his veteran leadership on the offensive side of the ball, especially if they trade for the aforementioned Rosen. Not to mention, it would just be really cool to watch him move up the all time rushing list while wearing Fins colors. He won't come at a steep price, and I think it's a sound short-term investment.
The Draft: For the longest time, I hated it when Miami took a trench fighter in the first round. Now, all I want is for them to stock up on offensive and defensive linemen. It's like that moment when you grow up and actually appreciate all the socks and underwear you get for Christmas. You just can't do without that stuff. And dear God, does Miami need help on that O-line. The only one worse last year was Arizona. I'd hate to see Rosen get traumatized like that in back-to-back years. He'd never be the same after that. So if you're hearing me, football gods, I'll be more than happy if we end up with a guy like Williams, Taylor, Bradbury or any of the other first round graded big guys this year.
That's enough out of me for now. Gotta go bomb this test tomorrow. Thanks for reading.