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  1. Posted

    13 hours ago, Favre4Ever said:

    No it wasn't. His other option was him leading the revolution he promised. lol. Why is that not even remotely considered. This wasn't just a Biden v Trump campaign for years. Biden has only been the nominee since like.. April? Bernie's had 8 years to do something...He's been preaching about this for 8 years... lol. He's a coward, and not a leader. It doesn't  just all boil down to the most recent 6 months that you selectively want to look at.

    This is just a piss poor take which sounds completely out of touch with reality. Exactly what did you want him to do? 

  2. Posted

    13 hours ago, Favre4Ever said:

    Also, the nations biggest fears have mostly come true... at least early on. Biden's national security team has been appointed and is indeed led by some of the country's most dangerous war criminals in our history. People like Blinken and Michele Flournoy have been involved in every conflict the US has jumped into since around Clinton's administration. As well as been huge cogs in legislation that argue America must be able to constantly fight countless endless wars. 

    It's naive to think they will all of a sudden change, but we can only hope.

    Hindsight  is 20/20, but Trump may just have been better.

    Lmaoooo.

  5. Posted

    Bernie lost a lot of appeal to me after Tulsi's brother said Tulsi tried to drop out and endorse him multiple times and he refused to take the endorsement. I still appreciate what he's done and I do think he's spent his life fighting for mainly the right things, which is rare in a politician, but that was a really bad move, IMO.

    I have no problem with Hillary being Ambassador to the UN, she's an experienced diplomat. 

  7. Posted

    On 11/9/2020 at 8:02 PM, Favre4Ever said:

    The problem with Democrats winning the Senate by a small number (or 50/50 with a Harris tie) was always that they were going to need to coax Manchin on every. single. vote. Not a great start for Democrats.

    Yeah Manchin was never going with them. It would still be good to not have Mitch be majority leader. I think there's a couple other dems for which that would be a hard sell. I object to the idea of it being "packing" the courts. That's what the GOP has been doing for the past four years.

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  8. Posted

    7 hours ago, Favre4Ever said:

    Bware, you may just your way with extremist muslims. Biden's rumored cabinet front runners are very pro war/conflict. Biden has been a lot more... firm? on engaging the enemy, regardless of who it may be. Doesn't mean anything will happen per se. I hope he's learned from backing stupid wars like going into Iraq.... But only time will tell.

    In other news. Biden  is supposed to announce his COVID team tomorrow, which... will say a lot. Supposedly Obama's surgeon general (Vivek Murphy) will be co-chairing the committee. He's promised economic recovery as one of his four pillars / priorities (with COVID response, racial disparity, and climate change). I am interested to hear how he/his team of scientists propose we both get stronger on the virus and the economy.

    You get rid of the virus and then jump start the economy. The economy goes nowhere as long as COVID is rampant.

  9. Posted

    3 hours ago, BwareDWare94 said:

    So long as Joe understands that a nationwide lockdown/stay-at-home order simply will not work because nobody will listen. I hope for a nationwide mask mandate, though.

    It's all stupid to whine about because the Pres doesn't have the authority to do it anyway. The states have to do that. And they should.

  10. Posted

    9 hours ago, BwareDWare94 said:

    You can remove the benefit of the doubt. I'm tired of public decapitations within horrific terror attacks, exploding human beings in crowds, and mass slaughter of Christians at worship in foreign countries. I'm ready to see the difficult decision made to do what it takes to rid our world of this nonsense. It's 2020. This is not an acceptable reality of the human condition.

    Nobody capable of critical thought ever believed that Joe Biden is a leftist radical. I agree with you there.

    As for voter fraud, I also agree with you that there isn't a significant amount. So lets confirm that and make Trump and all his allies lose all credibility.

    There are some things that cannot happen moving forward, though. No court packing. No removal of the electoral college. We cannot be under indefinite single-party rule. If Democrats even try, we have to fight it with all we have. I expect even reasonable democrats to agree with that take.

    What concrete action are you suggesting we take to stop radical Islam? Bombing them indiscriminately? Executing all of them? What? That's what I'm asking.

    We have confirmed it. Multiple times. Yall wanna waste more of the Trump campaign's money, go for it. As long as he still has money to pay for it.

    No court packing? The hypocrisy of this, lmao. What in the fuck do you call pushing through a SC justice two weeks before an election after specifically saying for the past four years they wouldn't do just that? What do you call refusing to let Obama appoint ANYONE the last two years of his presidency to the federal judiciary so there would be tons of open spots for the GOP to pack the courts? It's not court packing, its court UN packing.

    The EC should absolutely be abolished. The idea that it protects small states is no longer true. It elevates small states too much. Instead of asking what NY, CA, TX, and FL want, instead we ignore any non-swing state and focus the smaller swing ones.

  12. Posted

    31 minutes ago, BwareDWare94 said:

    @Thanatos way late on "what should we as the world do about radical Muslim violence?"

    My answer--whatever it takes, even if that requires an ethical compromise. We have got to live in a world without this nonsense.

    On the election: super surprised. I honestly thought a Trump landslide was imminent--apparently less people are terrified of leftist radicalism than we realized. We're not going to descend into that so long as Republicans hold the Senate, thank goodness.

     

    I'm not upset about Biden, but Kamala Harris is every bit as terrible of a human being as Donald Trump. She could be really dangerous. I really wish it was Tulsi up there. 

    I want to see a real investigation into voter fraud. Let's just find out how much occured and who it most benefited. Either we find out we have to address a real problem, or Trump looks like even more of an idiot than he already does. It's a win-win proposition.

    No one's going to descend into it even with Harris, the idea that Biden was a radical leftist was an utterly insane attack by Trump. By all means go investigating. There's nothing there and no one thinks there was any widescale fraud outside of right wingers. We used the same systems we did in 2016 when he won and they didnt complain then.

    Re: Muslim extremism: I was hoping for a more concrete answer on what to do about it. "Whatever it takes, even if it requires an ethical compromise" Im giving you the benefit of the doubt but that sounds really really really bad. Like we can do something horribly wrong to stop it.

  13. Posted · Edited by Thanatos

    3 minutes ago, Favre4Ever said:

    I think it's a huge sign of something. Both sides were extremely motivated to vote. And I do think it's going to be easier for the GOP to maintain some of that motivation going into 2024. I could totally be wrong, I mean... we're 4 years out, a lot can happen Ha. But people came out in droves to vote against Trump. I don't totally understand what you are asking about the GOP %, but they did have massive registration surges going into the election (as did Democrats). 

    I'm glad progressives could take a back seat to get rid of Trump, but at some point they need to fight back against the Biden's of the party. As mentioned previously, I do think Trump has moved Republicans considerably towards the middle of the political spectrum. Voter wise, I am talking. Obviously there are still super deep conservatives out there and super right politicians as well. There is a huge political shift / realignment happening from a voter level in my eyes across the board. 

    AOC just did an interview with the NY Times and was not exactly optimistic about how progressives are seen within government, so again.. I say edge Republicans until they prove they are indeed moving further right again.

    “The last two years have been pretty hostile. Externally, we’ve been winning. Externally, there’s been a ton of support, but internally, it’s been extremely hostile to anything that even smells progressive.”

    How both parties go into 2024 is going to be very interesting to me. I don't think democrats can rely on this corporatist, almost Republican, model they beat Trump with. And if progressives ever find their spines, there will be a reckoning. The GOP on the other hand has to pick if they follow this Trumpian centrist / populist type or revert back to super hardcore right. Hardcore right is obviously the wrong choice.

    Politico has a list of Biden cabinet "frontrunners" and I am not going to lie... it scares me seeing some of those names. Lots of them LOVE war. Doesn't mean anything is going to happen, but... I am not confident. Only positive I take out of this moment is that I think Biden brings the overall fever of the country down... back into it's sanity (which is ironic, considering he is losing his). It will be nice to have a more "presidential" President. I also expect a big 100 days, but again... I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. 

    I agree here almost completely, including on the list. Do not like. Really hoping they have that list wrong. Dems absolutely could just sit back now and I really hope they do not. This election was about harm mitigation. I think a lot less people will die now that Biden is in. Or rather once he starts working. Its by no means a progressive victory. This election was to stop a great evil from winning, but it did not even come close to defeating it.

    I'm saying Im less concerned about raw numbers when way more people voted. Did more % of the country vote for Trump than last time? That would concern me.

  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, Favre4Ever said:

    Regardless of what anyone wants to say , Trump realigned the Republican Party and probably (in the long run) it’s for the better. Trump was hardly conservative on most issues. Way more populist / moderate on most things except COVId which definitely sunk his campaign. 
     

    im just afraid Democrats view beating Trump as some huge win and thus stop fighting for real change. If they go into 2024 with the same strategy , they will lose. It wasn’t a huge gain, but Trump / GOP had 5 million more votes than last time and siphoned more of the votes from people of color. Not great signs for Democrats. Especially considering there was no real blue wave like predicted. 

    This was basically 2016 all over again just with role reversal. Anti Hillary voters got Trump elected, anti Trump voters got Biden elected. Data is preliminary naturally, but I think this is supported by polling showing that roughly 2/3 of all Biden voters are saying that “ he isn’t Trump “ is their #1 reason for voting for him. You’ll get some of that just voting down party line but roughly 25% voted for Trump just because he isn’t Joe Biden. That’s a massive difference. 
     

    Americans are still searching for somebody who will change the game. 

    Just having more votes in a election with record turnout is not really a sign of anything. Was there more GOP % wise than in 2016?

    Sure its a massive difference, its because Dems are two parties working together against one party they think is a greater evil than either of their parties. The progressive wing is happy Trump is beaten, but they are not happy that it was Biden who did it. 

    Yang/Tulsi 2024 please. In either order, don't care.

  15. Posted

    2 hours ago, SteVo said:

    Miscellaneous thoughts, in no particular order:

    • Assuming current results hold, Biden held all Clinton states from 2016 and flipped all three blue-wall states, Nebraska's 2nd C.D., Arizona, and Georgia (!). That's a very solid victory.
    • The polls were about four points off yet again. Is Trump just poll-proof? Did some Biden supporters not get out to vote because of Covid or other reasons? I look forward to statistical analysis on this in the coming months.
    • Democrats definitely underperformed in Congress. The biggest question moving forward for them is why and how to fix it. Voters across the country may have been tired of Trump, but they're not ready to embrace liberalism just yet.
    • What happens to the Republican Party now? Do they embrace Trumpism or resort to a more dignified conservatism a la McCain/Romney? Trump isn't going away. His Tweets will hold political power, for better or worse. And no, Trump running in 2024 is not out of the question.
    • #PrayForPhil

    Honestly I dont think I will ever trust the polls again. They were off by far more than 4 in many races. Susan Collins didnt have a poll showing her leading since July, yet she won by 6+.

    It's going to literally be the same EC victory Trump claimed was a landslide, lol. Kinda hilarious. 

    I'm not sure about the liberal thing. A lot of it was losing house districts in deep red areas that there was a huge backlash in 2018 that led Dems to win.

    Trump reportedly already said he was going to run in 2024. We'll deal with that when it comes.

    Lol, Phil. He's probably off spouting conspiracy nonsense somewhere.

  16. Posted · Edited by Thanatos

    On 9/11/2020 at 9:02 PM, Thanatos said:

    I think the level of violence depends on the results. Landslide either way- sure, what SteVo said. If its close and either side thinks the other has rigged it, (and lets be honest Trump is already claiming it will be rigged, he's going to stir his followers up if its close), I think we're going to see a big outbreak of violence.

    There's no way Trump is going to win the popular vote, IMO, but he could still win enough electoral votes that it wouldn't matter.

    Nightmare scenario is Trump is ahead on election night and declares victory and then Biden pulls ahead after all the mail-in ballots are counted, (which is a damn likely scenario, since Trump has convinced half his base COVID isn't dangerous, far more Dems will vote by mail in than GOP), and Trump cries foul. I'm not sure Trump would accept a SC decision that gave Biden the presidency- and for that matter, I am also not sure Biden would either the other way around, although Biden would have far less power to do anything.

    So uh yeah. We're here. Trump declares victory on Tuesday night, even sends out emails to his supporters saying he won Pennsylvania, which its now clear he has lost. Election still isn't called by anyone except for Decision Desk, but its inevitable at this point. I think the networks just have PTSD from 2016. Ironically Fox and the AP called AZ really early, and Trump still had a path to a win in AZ when they did. Seems the AZ website had a glitch for a few hours that wrongly said they had counted 84% of precincts when 74% was counted and that was what lead to the early call. It looks like Biden will hold in AZ, just barely, as Trump is not on pace to catch him at the moment. Plus, Biden is simply increasing his lead in PA and his shaky lead in AZ doesn't matter at all if PA holds, which I don't see how it won't.

    Biggest surprises was the relative landslide, at least in their terms, for Trump in FL- seems he convinced a great deal of Latinos Biden was socialist- and fucking Georgia flipping blue. Stacey Abrams should immediately be put in charge of DNC voter outreach efforts. 

    It does not look like the Dems will take the Senate, unless they somehow win both GA runoffs, (about a 1 in 100 shot, if you ask me), so Biden is going to be limited in what he can do. But we can at least start trying to fight back COVID and Trump's dismantling of regulations regarding climate change, including rejoining the Paris Accords. 

    There has been relatively little violence and I think that's due to the trickle here. If it had been declared on election night that Biden won, I think it would have all come out on one night, but the slow drip drip drip of bad news for Trump has given many of them time to sit and think and not act rashly. 

    Ironically here, if Biden wins GA, AZ, PA, and NV, and Trump takes NC (and AK, but we assume he has AK), then the total will be 306 to 232, which is literally the EXACT outcome of the 2016 election in reverse. Poetic justice as the universe rights itself.

    A small part of me was rooting for a 269-269 split which would lead to utter chaos, especially if DC had to break a tie in the House. But better that Trump and his cronies are gone.

  17. Posted

    On 10/29/2020 at 10:01 AM, BwareDWare94 said:

    A radical Muslim terrorist beheads a woman and kills two others in an attack at a church in France today. Similar recent attacks in France and continued violence perpetrated by radicalized Muslims in foreign countries. This nonsense has to end. It has to no longer be tolerated by the rest of the world. We must welcome Islam because of the majority of non-violent, non-radicalized Muslims, but we do not have to accept this violence as a reality. The rest of the world has to collectively eradicate this nonsense by any means possible. Even at the cost of upsetting others.

    What actions do you suggest we take as a world?

  19. Posted · Edited by Thanatos

    You're nothing more than a naysayer at this point and frankly beyond arguing with. All you ever care about is to point out little things one side is doing wrong and try to "both sides" ism this. You're as bad as they are.

    Yeah, why is funding the post office an important thing during an election where the GOP is trying to suppress the vote? Why is it not a good idea to pass another bill that fucks over the American people when the GOP waited six months after passing the first one to do anything again? 

    Fuck you right back. Tired of arguing with you. You want one side to be perfect to support them and its not going to happen. Sorry to burst your fantasy world of make-believe.

  20. Posted

    On 10/13/2020 at 4:29 PM, Favre4Ever said:

    Isn't that exactly what Pelosi is also doing? Steve fuckign Mnuchin is like... the only voice of reason on stimulus talks. Proposes 1.8T deal, Nancy releases some stupid statement about how she can't push it forward. People are losing their jobs... people can't buy food. How dare you reject a very large bill that would help a lot of people. At least get us kind of through the election and then pass 10 trillion dollars worth when Kamala is president and Dems own both chambers of Congress. 

    Also... Biden said again today that he is running for Senate... and he couldn't recall Romney's name:

    “I got in trouble when we were running against that senator who was a Mormon, the governor”

    I really wish he would've picked a non-evil scumbag as VP. I worry for the next 4 years.

    Another lie from Trump and his cronies. He didn't forget he was running for President. It was a grammatical mistake. He was listing off the things he'd run for. He said Senator, then Vice President, and then President. Here is the full clip of that part: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-54531569

    And yeah he forgot Romney's name. He's old. I wish he wasn't. But he's far better than the traitor in the WH.

    Why would we give another trillion dollars to big corporations and just $1200 again to the American people, with no help for a postal service about to be deluged? It wouldn't help people in the long run at all.

    Now she absolutely should do what Trump said later, which is send him a bill just for the $1200 to the people and thats it. Absolutely do that. She's a moron for not taking that offer. Either he's serious, in which case the people win, or he's not and she calls him on it.

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  21. Posted

    Wisconsin appeals court is taking away people's ability to vote during a pandemic by reversing a decision that allowed votes to be counted as long as they were postmarked by Nov. 3rd and received by the 9th. The Republicans don't care about people's right to vote, they just want more power, and disenfranchising people is how they plan to do it.

    Weaponizing a pandemic to try to hold onto a failing grasp of power is exactly what I would expect of the cult that Trump is in charge of.

  22. Posted · Edited by Thanatos

    Trump publicly tweeting that he has instructed McConnell to stop negotiations on the stimulus and instead focus on confirming Barret, (who's in a literal cult called the People of Praise), to the SC instead is the nail in the proverbial coffin. Biden is going to wipe the floor with him if he doesn't reverse this decision. Even on his own Twitter, there are dozens of Trump supporters begging him to reconsider, that they need help now and can't wait, and many of them are saying they're not going to vote for him now. 

  25. Posted · Edited by Thanatos

    11 hours ago, BwareDWare94 said:

    Debate take: Trump--demonstrably rude. Biden--strugggled to string coherent sentences and thoughts together.

    Last night was simultaneously terrifying and depressing.

    Trump doesn't need to denounce white supremacy out loud. He's not a white supremacist and clearly doesn't support white supremacy. White supremacists make up the tiniest of tiny factions of the American population. It'd be nice to eradicate that abhorrent belief system, of course, but it's not a grand scale problem.

     

    Bull. Trump interrupted him at every turn. Biden was fine. They're going to mute his mic when its not his turn to speak next debate, as I thought. Trump has no clue how to debate. His campaign agreed to two min uninterrupted answers and then, shocker of shockers, the liar in chief proved that a lie too.

    And not surprising, he lied at almost every turn too. Lied about mail in ballots being proved fraudulent, lied about ballots being found in creeks and rivers, lied about losing 30-40% of ballots in some elections, lied about the NY primary being evidence of voter fraud, claimed that all states that accept ballots postmarked by Election Day are Dems, (11/25 are GOP), making it seem like there is something political about that, he just lies over and over.

    This is Trump's MO: Lie, lie, lie, until people are so sick and tired of it they just let him say what he wants. 

    Funny, I honestly thought Trump would kill him in the debates, but it was Biden who had the remembered quotes and who held his own as Trump acted like a five year old. "Will you just shut up, man?" Said what the entire country was thinking.

    You dont think Trump needs to denounce it out loud, not even after the moderator specifically asked him? Not even after he specifically told the Proud Boys to stand down and stand by? What the fuck, dude. It's absolutely a large problem, responsible for far more deaths and violence than Antifa or anything on the left. I don't think he's a white supremacist, persay, but I do think he doesn't want to turn them off voting for him.

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