RazorStar 4,025 Posted January 31, 2013 You notice how the NFL does one of these every year, and every year the list looks awful? Well, that's because the voting process is awful. They get about 10% of the players in the league to submit a top 20 list, and then those top 20 guys get in, and anyone who threw a biased vote for a player will often find guys like Michael Vick and Tim Tebow sneaking into the bottom of the list. So I'm trying to the improve the process. I have a simple way to start, and that's narrowing the field a bit. There's approximately 1600 active players in the league (50ish on 32 teams) an obviously they were not all created equal. Each day I'll go position by position and you guys will give me your list of players who you think may qualify as a top 100 player. Taking QB's for example, if you're unsure about a guy like Cam Newton, put him on anyway, and let the wisdom of crowds narrow it down. If my projections are right, once I go through all the positions there will be well over 100 players on this list, but enough to narrow the field significantly. Just put in the players who you think are top 100 caliber. Be generous if you're unsure, and I'll say anyone who appears on about 1/3rd of the lists can qualify. If you want to go the extra mile, project where you think each player would fit in the top 100. Also... before we get too far, I want to stress that while value is important the quality of player is much more important. This will be more important once we get past the qualifying round. Matt Stafford may be way more valuable to his team, but Calvin Johnson is certainly a better player on the same team. In an attempt to standardize voting, so we do not get situations where Justin Smith is both second team all-pro DE and second team all-pro DT, (when he should have just been first team DE), I'm going to classify each defense here as 3-4 or 4-3. It doesn't matter if they're typically a hybrid scheme (Pats, Ravens, etc), or if they run Seattle's Elephant 4-3, this is just so we don't get situations like the above. Players may switch positions along the line like Justin Tuck who shades inside on 3rd downs, so just include the player in their base position. Defenses are confusing, you just have to deal with it. So, 4-3 teams are: Dolphins, Patriots, Bills, Browns, Bengals, Titans, Jags, Broncos, Raiders, Eagles, Giants, Vikings, Bears, Lions, Saints, Falcons, Bucs, Panthers, Seahawks, and Rams 3-4 teams are: Jets, Steelers, Ravens, Colts, Texans, Chiefs, Chargers, Cowboys, Redskins, Packers, 49ers, and Cards I have so many positions here because I have a feeling the named list will be small. My List: Nose Tackles: None 4-3 MLB Karlos Dansby Luke Kuechly Bobby Wagner Brandon Spikes 4-3 OLB Von Miller Daryl Smith Lance Briggs Jerod Mayo Philip Wheeler 3-4 ILB Sean Lee Patrick Willis Daryl Washington Derrick Johnson Navarro Bowman Lawrence Timmons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bay 2,003 Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Nose Tackles - Jay Ratliff, Issac Sopoaga 4-3 MLB - Karlos Dansby, D'Qwell Jackson, DeMeco Ryans, Brian Urlacher, James Laurinaitis 4-3 OLB - Manny Lawson, Von Miller, Chad Greenway, Lance Briggs 3-4 ILB - Lawrence Timmons, Sugar, Brian Cushing, Derrick Johnson, Sean Lee, Pat & Bo, D-Wash Edited January 31, 2013 by Bay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) I think David is a 4-3 OLB, but I might be wrong on that one. Just scoot him to the correct position. He deserves to be in the conversation here. Not sure how you missed Chad Greenway, though. Man deserves to be on here. Nose Tackles Jay Ratliff Isaac Sopouaga 4-3 MLB Karlos Dansby Luke Kuechly Bobby Wagner 4-3 OLB Von Miller Daryl Smith Lance Briggs Jerod Mayo Lavonte David Thomas Davis Chad Greenway 3-4 ILB Sean Lee Patrick Willis Daryl Washington Derrick Johnson Navarro Bowman Lawrence Timmons Brian Cushing Terrell Suggs Edited February 1, 2013 by Thanatos19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted February 1, 2013 Wasn't down for Greenway. He's borderline already and this year wasn't a great one on his part. I struggled to put him up there but I decided against it. Then again, I may just be hyper critical about linebackers, Lavonte David isn't there either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kayoh 1 Posted February 1, 2013 Von Miller Daryl Smith Patrick Willis NaVorro Bowman Brian Cushing Lawrence Timmons Jerod Mayo no NTs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
housemd 338 Posted February 2, 2013 NT's Jay Ratliff Isaac Sopoaga 4-3 MLB Karlos Dansby Luke Kuechly Bobby Wagner James Laurinaitis D'Qwell Jackson Brian Urlacher 4-3 OLB Von Miller Daryl Smith Lance Briggs Jerod Mayo Chad Greenway 3-4 ILB Sean Lee Patrick Willis Daryl Washington Derrick Johnson Navarro Bowman Lawrence Timmons Brian Cushing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted February 16, 2013 Current tallies: Nose Tackles: Jay Ratliff 3 Isaac Soapaga 3 4-3 MLB Karlos Dansby 4 Luke Kuechly 3 Bobby Wagner 3 DeMeco Ryans D'Qwell Jackson 2 Brian Urlacher 2 James Laurinaitis 2 Brandon Spikes 4-3 OLB Von Miller 5 Lance Briggs 4 Daryl Smith 4 Jerod Mayo 4 Chad Greenway 3 Philip Wheeler Lavonte David Thomas Davis Manny Lawson 3-4 ILB Navarro Bowman 5 Lawrence Timmons 5 Patrick Willis 5 Daryl Washington 4 Derrick Johnson 4 Sean Lee 4 Brian Cushing 4 Ray Lewis This is pathetic, get your votes in palacites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
