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    39. Trent Green (San Diego Chargers 1993-1994, Washington Redskins 1995-1998, St. Louis Rams 1999-2000, 2008, Kansas City Chiefs 2001-2006, Miami Dolphins 2007) 4th Place Chiefs QB Career Record 56-60-0 (48.28%) 72nd out of 102 Record in Games with Good Defense 35-10-0 (77.78%) 45th (T) out of 102 Record in Games with Bad Defense 21-50-0 (29.58%) 42nd out of 102 Percentage of Games with Good Defense 45/116 (38.79%) 94th out of 102 (+54) Wins above Average in a 16 Game Season (0.821) So, we go from one of the most fortunate quarterbacks in NFL history... to one of the least. Ladies and gentlemen, the forever underrated Trent Green stands trial. And while Trent Green did get a super bowl ring for his finger, it was as a backup. But, that's jumping the gun a fair bit. Green started from humble beginnings after all. A player who never got a chance on his first team, and toiled in QB rooms with other guys who have shown up earlier on these lists, like Gus Frerotte and Brad Johnson. Green was a 8th round pick by the Chargers in 1993, nothing more than an afterthought really, as the Chargers built a team around physical punishing defense. Green spent two years with the Chargers, saw no playing time, and after being cut by the BC Lions in the CFL, he got a shot in Washington. He spent four seasons there, but didn't even touch the field until 1997 where he threw a single pass in garbage time. However 1998 gave him his first opportunity, and for a guy who was grinding in the league for five years to that point, he ran with it. After throwing for 3400 yards, 23 TDs and 11 INTs in his last season, he was suddenly the hottest commodity around as a free agent quarterback. Eventually he made a decision to sign with the St. Louis Rams. Things were looking great for Green... until the third pre season game. Rodney Harrison blitzed from the middle of the field and took down Green in a vicious hit that tore his ACL, ending his season before it could even begin. Green's backup Kurt Warner came in... and the rest was history. We talk a lot about Kurt Warner's story, but Green might have done the same thing Warner did with the Greatest Show on Turf, and his story would have been no less impressive for it. But we cannot live in the world of what ifs. Trent Green was a super bowl winner... in the same way Rohan Davey and Brock Osweiler were. Green got a chance to play a few games with the Rams in 2000, as Kurt Warner took his starting role, but missed a few games due to injury. In limited time, Green was 2-3, but threw for 2000+ yards, 16 TDs, 5 INT's, and 8.6 Yards per Attempt. This was a very common trend of Trent Green's career. His defenses gave up points like few others did, and were typically in the bottom five in points allowed. Green left St. Louis in a trade, but got another chance in Missouri, this time with the Kansas City Chiefs. And this is where the bulk of Green's career was, and the reason why despite his many stops, he's only listed as a Chief. 2001 was a rough year for Green, as he tried to force the ball way too often. Perhaps he was used to his receivers in St. Louis catching anything and everything, but Tony Gonzalez and a handful of scraps can only do you so much. He threw 17 TDs and 24 INTs, a very uncharacteristic stat line for him. He got himself back on track in 2002, helping the Chiefs to a .500 record, throwing 26 TD's, completing 61% of his passes and only throwing 13 INT's. His third year with the Chiefs was their best yet. Green's efficiency numbers stayed consistent, but with a defense that was in the middle of the pack rather than a pure bottom feeder, the Chiefs went 13-3, and got themselves a first round bye and a place in the divisional round. However despite putting up 31 points against the Indianapolis Colts, their defense gave up 38. Green would throw more than ever in 2004, passing for 4591 yards on 556 attempts, throwing for 27 TDs and 17 INT's, but the Chiefs defense regressed back to the bottom five, and the Chiefs struggled to reach 7-9 despite how well their offense was playing. Green would have one more winning season in Kansas City, as 2005 brought them to a 10-6 record. Green had been remarkably consistent during his time in KC, but the wins and losses ebbed and flowed on how their defense was playing. And for most of the time, their defense didn't seem to be playing the right sport. 10-6 was not enough to get into the playoffs in 2005, as the Steelers took the 6th seed at 11-5. Dick Vermeil would announce his retirement from football, and Green's connection to him was severed. Enter Herm Edwards, and Green's last year in KC. On the first game of the season, Green was severely concussed, in a play that probably would have been called a penalty in today's game, though the lineman had no choice but to hit Green due to his momentum. Green missed half the season, but kept the ship steady when he came back, and the Chiefs ended up 9-7, which was good enough for a postseason appearance. But when the appearance fee is to get wrecked by Peyton Manning and the Colts, it's almost like you never should have punched the ticket to begin with. Since Damon Huard did well enough in his backup duty, a QB controversy was brewing in KC, and Green, refusing to take a paycut, and was traded away. A move that had no winners in all honesty. Green ended up going to South Beach in 2007, and after Daunte Culpepper was a flop for the Phins, they hoped they got it right with Green. They did not. The Dolphins lost the first four games of the season, and then lost Trent Green as he tried to block a 320 pound defensive tackle on a WR end around. He was severely concussed, and would never play another down for the Dolphins as they proceeded to lose almost every game that season. Green didn't call it quits just yet, and decided if teams still wanted his services, he'd play. So he went back to St. Louis, a team far removed from their greatest show on turf days, to back up Marc Bulger. Green started one game that season, and played in relief for a few more, but threw zero touchdowns and six interceptions on only 72 throws. The Rams cut him at the end of the season, and Green decided to pursue a career in broadcasting instead. It's working out pretty well for him, as he's on CBS' third team with Greg Gumbel. What amazes me about Green's career is just how bad his defenses were. Almost consistently they were placing in the bottom five in points allowed, and almost consistently you'd see Green putting up 300 yards and a couple of touchdowns in a losing effort because his teams simply could not keep up. To his credit, he has been blessed with offensive talent for most of his career, between Marshall Faulk, Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson, few guys get to have that many great players to hand off to. His receivers in KC weren't as amazing, aside from TE Tony Gonzalez, it was Eddie Kennison and a bunch of gum you'd find under the seat in Arrowhead. Well, I think a wad of chewed up gum might catch a ball every now and again. Despite having a losing record, his splits were very good, being above average in both instances, and a fair bit better in games with poor defense. Which is a good thing since he had a lot of those games. Green may have never had playoff success, but he only had a couple of shots at it thanks to the defenses he was carrying throughout his entire career.
  3. 2 points
    More than 100M guaranteed to a player whose best attribute is getting hurt late in the season ... I mean, sometimes those injuries are just luck/unlucky, but idk. Definitely seems a little riskier than the other QBs hauling in this kind of money.
  4. 2 points
    Personally, I think it was too early to sign him to an extension. Would like to see how he does this season before throwing so much money at him. But I can see why Philly wanted to get it done now, if they waited there is the potential they would have to shell out even more money.
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    There has to be something else going on here. The Texans went to the playoffs last year, so this is either a power struggle between him and Buttchin, or he did something really scummy that hasn't come to light yet.
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