DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted May 6, 2014 Have at it. 1. Jadeveon Clowney 2. Teddy Bridgewater 3. Khalil Mack 4. Greg Robinson 5. Aaron Donald 6. Mike Evans 7. Jake Matthews 8. Blake Bortles9. Weston Richburg 10. Eric Ebron 11. Sammy Watkins 12. Derek Carr 13. Taylor Lewan 14. Jason Verrett 15. Ra'Shede Hageman 16. Zack Martin 17. Odell Beckham Jr 18. LaMarcus Joyner 19. Brandin Cooks 20. Marcus Smith 21. Kyle Fuller 22. Davante Adams 23. Kareem Martin 24. Darqueze Dennard 25. Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix 26. Austin Seferian-Jenkins 28. Joel Bitonio 29. Louis Nix III 30. Dee Ford 31. CJ Mosley 32. Trent Murphy 33. Kyle Van Noy 34. Calvin Pryor 35. Jordan Matthews 36. Ryan Shazier 37. Carlos Hyde 38. Donte Moncrief 39. Xavier Su'a-Filo 40. Jimmie Ward41. Demarcus Lawrence 42. Dion Bailey 43. Phillip Gaines 44. Dominique Easley 45. Jeremiah Attaochu46. Bradley Roby 47. CJ Fiedorowicz 48. Kelvin Benjamin49. Marqise Lee 50. Brandon Thomas 51. Trai Turner 52. Stephon Tuitt 53. Timmy Jernigan 54. Daniel McCullers While I think Jason Verrett is, and will be the best corner in the class, I really love Dennard. I have him as a late first rounder, but that's because I really don't know how well his game will translate. And whether he will get the Richard treatment (from the officials), or if he'll get the Brandon Browner treatment. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJORN 679 Posted May 6, 2014 Sua Filo is too low for my liking but otherwise pretty solid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan4Life 542 Posted May 6, 2014 How is Sammy Watkins not in the Top 10 but Mike Evans is? Sammy Watkins is the only receiver in this draft who I see as being able to be elite I think Lee is super low too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC 331 Posted May 6, 2014 Brandon Thomas just tore his ACL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted May 6, 2014 Sua Filo is too low for my liking but otherwise pretty solid. He's a high second/ low first rd guy to me. He's a guy who will play from day one and be solid, but I don't ever think he'll be great by any means. How is Sammy Watkins not in the Top 10 but Mike Evans is? Sammy Watkins is the only receiver in this draft who I see as being able to be elite I think Lee is super low too. Watkins to me is a rich man's Torrey Smith. Which is great, but not elite. Watching Watkins play and watching Smith play you get the same impression. I don't really see him as a constant among the top 10 among receivers. I see Mike Evans in that discussion every year. He has the tools you look for in a receiver when picking in the top 10. And as far as Lee is concerned, I'm just not overly impressed. He's a development guy. He always catches the ball with his body or "under hand", watching the combine and some of his games, you can see that he has an awful catching technique. Route running is meh, body control is bad, and injury issues to boot. I see potential, but not a first round talent. Would be lower if it wasn't for athleticism. Brandon Thomas just tore his ACL. He did, I'm still not ready to put him lower as a prospect. I wouldn't draft him that high anymore, but assuming he comes back to form, he'll still be pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted May 6, 2014 Any explanations on Richburg at 9, M. Smith at 20, K. Mart at 23, and McCullers at 54? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Any explanations on Richburg at 9, M. Smith at 20, K. Mart at 23, and McCullers at 54? I see Richburg as an all-pro center, a superstar at his position. That warrants him being a top 10 player in my book. This doesn't necessarily mean I think he should be drafted up there (value wise) but if the Lions were on the clock and they took him at 10, I would be happy. Pop in his games and he moves so incredibly well, his footwork is amazing. Unlike with guys like Lewan who struggle with technique, Richburg has it down pat, and I'd argue is ahead of the likes of Matthews in that department. With Marcus Smith, I see in him what everyone wants to see in Barr (who you won't see in my top 55). He's more explosive then Barr. Great first step. There are instances like this where he's already in the backfield before the OT can even react: On these two plays he's left unblocked, but still, they show his amazing first step. He can move as well as Barr in space: And he can hold his own at the point of attack, which is why Louisvile sometimes even lined him up at the 3tech. His hand placement, and use of hands aren't the best, and he isn't the strongest, which are negaives, plus, he doesn't have amazing potential. but his quickness, speed, lateral movement, instincts, and motor are all pluses. He plays very controlled for a guy who's that athletic for that size. Martin is a puzzling one because when I watched him, I really didn't think he'd test out all that well. he has the potential to be the best DE in this class (yes better then Clowney). Looked like a late 2nd most of the time on film though. Had everything you look for in a 4-3 DE, but he looked sluggish off the ball (probably due to always standing straight up), unmotivated, and unwilling to disengage off blockers. He's got the checklist that you look for from a DE. Size, length, athletic ability, production. But he looks like he should be better. Athletically he's on par with JPP, but he doesn't look it on film most of the time. So therefor, coaching is going to play a big factor on how good he becomes (kinda like Mohamed Wilkerson). He's got potential at any point to give you plays like this: McCullers is all potential to me. If he can be coached up properly, he's got the tools to be the best 3-4 NT in the NFL. Edited May 6, 2014 by DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted May 6, 2014 Also, here's a guy who demonstrates the issues with Lee's hands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jcCSU-sFRs He showed it at the combine too. He just seems to be completely apposed to putting his hands together when it comes to catching the ball. It seems almost habitual. And if that's the case, good luck coaching that out of him. His speed and route running are all questionable as well. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch 874 Posted May 6, 2014 I'm not a fan of Lee at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllYouNeedIsLovie 377 Posted May 6, 2014 Overall, I agree with most of this, but I would have Mosley a lot higher. I think he is gonna be a stud in the NFL. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) Eh, maybe after his junior year I would maybe of had him higher, but he showed some real issues last year. Doesn't have much upside, and he really isn't great against the run. I'm not a fan of Lee at all. IDT that he's going to be bad by any means. But, potential aside, not much else is going for him imo. Edited May 6, 2014 by DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025 Posted May 6, 2014 Richburg 9th overall? Very ballsy, very hipstr. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathias 394 Posted May 6, 2014 I can't seem to find QB Johnny Manziel (Texas A&M) anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted May 7, 2014 Campin, responding to your post would be way too mainstream for me. So now I'm starting (and ending) the trend of posting my response on top of your quote, rather then underneath it. Richburg 9th overall? Very ballsy, very hipstr. I can't seem to find QB Johnny Manziel (Texas A&M) anywhere. I'm a armchair scout Manziel hater, have been for a while (3rd rd. grade). And will be willing to eat crow when he proves me wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
