RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 5, 2013 Group 9 Will Montgomery -2 DeMarcus Ware 1 Tamba Hali 2 Sean Lee 1 Brian Cushing 3 Safe: Derrick Johnson Jerod Mayo Eliminated: Mario Williams Luke Kuechly Jason Hatcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 5, 2013 Current Position Count: QB's: 6 in, 1 in limbo HB's 6 in, 2 in limbo WR's 9 in, 3 in limbo TE's 3 in, 2 in limbo OT's 5 in, 9 in limbo OG's 3 in, 5 in limbo C's 2 in, 3 in limbo Edge Rushers: 4 in, 7 in limbo 3-4 DE, DT's and NT's: 6 in, 6 in limbo 4-3 OLB: 2 in, 2 in limbo ILB and MLB: 5 in, 3 in limbo CB's 6 in, 5 in limbo S's 3 in, 4 in limbo for a total of 60 in, and 52 in limbo. The current players in and no longer in can be seen here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArR2caQsozOOdHZiUzItSFctTEtPS3ZHSDBNNXhLWXc&usp=sharing Green is in, White is in limbo Red is out in the last round, Cyan is out in this round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted March 5, 2013 how the fuck is Cromartie gone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 5, 2013 rzb, myself, cuda, vin, and Bay all gave him negs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bay 2,003 Posted March 5, 2013 I only negged him because he was already at -4 and I was like fuck it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted March 5, 2013 Cromartie being eliminated makes me scratch my head. He was one of the best corners in the league, I think he should be in the top-100 for sure. there have been a few headscratchers for me so far, I don't know why Kerrigan was removed in the last round, Cromartie should def be in the top 100, and say what you want about me being a Titans' fan, but I think Chris Johnson and Michael Roos should still be going Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 5, 2013 Roos should be, I don't think Johnson would though. Some of our bigger upsets according to round 1 results include: Thomas DeCoud 89% thought he was a top 100 player Brandon Graham had 89% as well Michael Roos at 73% and Eli Manning at 67% were also noticeable on the flip side Trent Williams is safe after getting only 36% in the first round and Chris Long is safe after 44% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted March 5, 2013 DeCoud is a top 100 player in my heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted March 5, 2013 Okay, but all the other guys would be just in the top-100, I was expecting Cromartie to be top-50 at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 5, 2013 Group 4 C.J. Spiller 0 Will Beatty -2 Julius Peppers 0 Brent Grimes -2 George Wilson -1 Safe: Brandon Marshall 5 Arian Foster 5 Duane Brown 5 Eliminated: Brandon Graham Ben Grubbs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 6, 2013 Group 5 Steve Smith 1 Heath Miller 3 David Stewart -2 John Sullivan 2 Earl Thomas 1 Safe: Alex Boone Aldon Smith Eliminated: Brian De La Puente Anthony Davis Kyle Williams That's all of them. The next round of topics will be coming soon, but for now here are the current numbers. Players officially safe: 62 Players in limbo: 49 Players eliminated last round: 28 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 6, 2013 And here are the randomly generated groups for next round: Group A Robert Griffin -3 Josh Sitton -2 Will Beatty -2 Steve Smith 1 Earl Thomas 1 Charles Johnson 1 Andy Levitre -2 Jason Peters 2 Will Montgomery -2 Brian Cushing 3 Group B Vernon Davis -3 Vince Wilfork 3 Ladarius Webb -1 Brandon Mebane 3 Justin Houston 3 Julius Peppers 0 Ike Taylor 3 Jared Allen 2 Jahri Evans 0 DeMarcus Ware 1 Group C Andre Smith 1 Daryl Smith 1 Jake Long -3 Ndamukong Suh -1 Reshad Jones 0 Brent Grimes -2 David Stewart -2 Karlos Dansby 1 Antonio Smith 1 Tamba Hali 2 Group D Sebastian Vollmer 0 Antoine Winfield 1 Jordan Gross 2 Dez Bryant -1 C.J. Spiller 0 George Wilson -1 John Sullivan 2 Chris Myers 0 Evan Mathis 3 Larry Fitzgerald 1 Group E TJ Ward 0 Tim Jennings 1 Muhammad Wilkerson 4 Heath Miller 3 Ryan Clady 3 Carl Nicks -2 Ray Rice 3 Lance Briggs 1 Sean Lee 1 Once again voting will continue until either 11 more players have been eliminated, or until each group has been reduced to five players. If we still have not reached our top 100 by that point, a final round will be made with the remaining 25 players. Topics will be up in a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 7, 2013 The short group is wrapped up. As of this moment, 6 more players have been eliminated, and 5 more have been saved. TJ Ward -2 Tim Jennings 3 Heath Miller 2 Lance Briggs 1 Sean Lee 0 Safe Ray Rice 5 Ryan Clady 5 Muhammad Wilkerson 5 Eliminated Carl Nicks -5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 7, 2013 Group C final results Andre Smith 2 Daryl Smith 3 Brent Grimes -2 David Stewart -3 Antonio Smith 2 Safe: Karlos Dansby Tamba Hali Eliminated: Jake Long Ndamukong Suh Reshad Jones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 8, 2013 Group A final results: Robert Griffin -2 Earl Thomas 2 Charles Johnson 2 Andy Levitre -3 Jason Peters 3 Safe Brian Cushing +5 Steve Smith +5 Eliminated Josh Sitton -5 Will Beatty -5 Will Montgomery -5 by my count, we are down to the last 102 players. If we aren't down to 100 by the morning tomorrow, there will be one final round to finish the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) Group D Safe: Evan Mathis John Sullivan Eliminated: Sebastian Vollmer and Group B final results. Justin Houston 3 Julius Peppers -4 Jared Allen -2 Jahri Evans 0 DeMarcus Ware 2 Safe: Ladarius Webb 5 Ike Taylor 5 Vince Wilfork 5 Brandon Mebane 5 Eliminated: Vernon Davis -5 Edited March 8, 2013 by RazorStar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 8, 2013 Final Elimination Topic is almost ready to go. Once it opens every player left in limbo will be reset to 0 saves. From there +3 will save a player, and -3 will remove a player. Once two players are removed, we will have our top 100. Thank you for getting the list this far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 9, 2013 And we are finally at 100. Justin Houston 0 Julius Peppers -1 Jared Allen 0 Jahri Evans 0 DeMarcus Ware 0 Antoine Winfield 1 Jordan Gross -3 (eliminated) Dez Bryant -1 C.J. Spiller -1 George Wilson -1 Chris Myers 0 Larry Fitzgerald 1 Robert Griffin -1 Earl Thomas 0 Charles Johnson 0 Andy Levitre 0 Jason Peters 2 Andre Smith 0 Daryl Smith 3(safe) Brent Grimes 0 David Stewart 2 Antonio Smith 0 TJ Ward 0 Tim Jennings 0 Heath Miller -3(out) Lance Briggs 0 Sean Lee 1 Gonna give this some time before I start the final round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 13, 2013 Ok, here is our final list, by position: QB (7) Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady Drew Brees Peyton Manning Ben Roethlisberger Matt Ryan Robert Griffin III HB (8) Adrian Peterson Marshawn Lynch CJ Spiller Ray Rice Arian Foster LeSean McCoy Jamaal Charles Frank Gore WR (12) Calvin Johnson Andre Johnson AJ Green Reggie Wayne Julio Jones Roddy White Brandon Marshall Vincent Jackson Dez Bryant Demaryius Thomas Larry Fitzgerald Steve Smith (CAR) TE (3) Rob Gronkowski Jason Witten Tony Gonzalez OT (10) Joe Thomas Andrew Whitworth Joe Staley Ryan Clady Duane Brown Andre Smith Jason Peters Eugene Monroe David Stewart Trent Williams OG (6) Marshal Yanda Mike Iupati Evan Mathis Alex Boone Jahri Evans Andy Levitre C (4) Nick Mangold Max Unger John Sullivan Chris Myers Edge Rushers (11) Jason Pierre-Paul Cameron Wake Aldon Smith Clay Matthews DeMarcus Ware Jared Allen Julius Peppers Tamba Hali Justin Houston Charles Johnson Chris Long 3-4 DE's and 4-3 DT's (10) JJ Watt Geno Atkins Gerald McCoy Justin Smith Calais Campbell Vince Wilfork Haloti Ngata Muhammad Wilkerson Brandon Mebane Antonio Smith 4-3 OLB's (4) Von Miller Jerod Mayo Daryl Smith Lance Briggs Inside Linebackers (8) Navarro Bowman Patrick Willis Lawrence Timmons Karlos Dansby Daryl Washington Sean Lee Derrick Johnson Brian Cushing Cornerbacks (11) Joe Haden Richard Sherman Darrelle Revis Brandon Flowers Charles Tillman Champ Bailey Antoine Winfield Tim Jennings Ladarius Webb Brent Grimes Ike Taylor Safeties (6) Jairus Byrd Eric Weddle TJ Ward Kam Chancellor George Wilson Earl Thomas Oh, and here's a cool story for you guys, we have 50 players on offense and 50 players on defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted March 16, 2013 question about something that occurred to me on the rankings, if somebody were to pick a player they liked and constantly gave them 5 points it would be really easy to skew the rankings, particularly once we get past the group at the top where there's a pretty good consensus, it doesn't look like anyone's done that yet (though I'm not looking at the voting that closely) but do we have a mechanism to correct for that or should we just deal with it if it comes up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted March 16, 2013 question about something that occurred to me on the rankings, if somebody were to pick a player they liked and constantly gave them 5 points it would be really easy to skew the rankings, particularly once we get past the group at the top where there's a pretty good consensus, it doesn't look like anyone's done that yet (though I'm not looking at the voting that closely) but do we have a mechanism to correct for that or should we just deal with it if it comes up? I imagine there would be a "correction" period when this is over where we look at the list as a whole and target specific players who we think are too high or too low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted March 17, 2013 I'll keep an eye on players who get through primarily on the work of one person. looking at users votes we can see trends form, and if there is something vastly different changing in a vote over time, I'll mark that player on the list for a correction period. Normally though, your vote should be changing like this: +5 P2 +4 P1 +3 P3 +2 P4 +1 P5 P1 moves on, next vote looks like: +5 P2 +4 P3 +3 P4 +2 P5 +1 P6 If there is something vastly different from that form, It'll be noticeable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted March 17, 2013 I'll keep an eye on players who get through primarily on the work of one person. looking at users votes we can see trends form, and if there is something vastly different changing in a vote over time, I'll mark that player on the list for a correction period. Normally though, your vote should be changing like this: +5 P2 +4 P1 +3 P3 +2 P4 +1 P5 P1 moves on, next vote looks like: +5 P2 +4 P3 +3 P4 +2 P5 +1 P6 If there is something vastly different from that form, It'll be noticeable. My thought was really if P2 was a guy nobody else was listing, for example if I were to give David Stewart 5 points every round after 18 rounds he'd have 90 points, which would probably be enough to get ranked, with no points from anyone else and I could get him into the top 25 pretty easily even though I'm sure nobody would rank him that high Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) I'd like to voice my objection to Aldon Smith getting so much love. Did you guys notice what Smith did once Justin Smith was out of the lineup? Nothing. That is a talented front seven, no doubt, but Justin is the Smith who makes it all click, in my opinion. figured I'd respond to this here rather than derailing the voting thread the way I see it, 19.5 sacks is 19.5 sacks, add in 3 ffs and a pick and I think he's got the stats to justify putting him in, that said, I see I'm one of two people voting for him at this point so if that doesn't change I may reassess to avoid the very issue I mentioned above, I don't mean to say that I'm afraid to set a trend with my votes, but when it becomes clear that nobody's following that definitely gives pause, and I do have to admit that I haven't watched a lot of SF games Edited March 17, 2013 by oochymp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
