Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) This last week, Hoodie came out and said if the 2010 draft was redone, Geno Atkins would probably be taken #1 Overall. Geno Atkins is obviously a GREAT player but 2010 has been shaping up to be an awfully talented draft class. So... What do you think? Does Geno go #1 if GMs were able to do it all over again? Who would you take #1? Who would you take with your teams selection?Lots of great names to pick from, but... I do think you have to put Geno at the top of that list. As far as who the Packers take, I actually still really like our actual selection of Bryan Bulaga, and probably wouldn't change it. That is, of course, assuming we are figuring who would and wouldn't still be there at our pick if we did the do-over. If I can pick anyone after our selection, I am thinking Kam Chancellor? Edited October 6, 2013 by Favre4Ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phins4life 271 Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Interesting idea...I was actually talking about this with a co-worker the other day. He's a Jets fan so lately we've been sharing in each other's pain, ironically. I noticed one year we could have had Patrick Willis instead of...whoever the hell we took that should have been named Willis but wasn't. Anyway, I guess this could be broken down a couple ways: just grabbing somebody available only before the next pick, or completely reordering and basing the picks off how people have performed up to today...in which case, yeah...Atkins wouldn't be sitting around in the 4th round. Gonna go with the former for now... 1. Jared Odrick - I like this pick, so I'm pretty sure I'd stick with it. He's taken a little time to break out, but I think putting him inside has made a pretty big difference. I just like him better in the 4-3. 2. Koa Misi - This is tough. I think Misi is another guy who's been steady, but not amazing. Gronk got picked just 2 spots later, and we have struggled at TE since McMichael. Rob Gronkowski gets my vote. 3. John Jerry - Fuck me. Our scouts must have been smoking the good shit right before this one, right? Between pick 73 and 119, here are the guys we could have had: Emmanuel Sanders, Eric Decker, NaVorro Bowman, Jimmy Graham (hey, NE did it with Gronk/Hernandez...can you imagine Gronk and Graham?), Dennis Pitta, just to name the big ones. At the time we were running the 3-4, so Bowman would be nice. Would have been pretty solid paired up with Dansby. Although Graham, in hindsight, could have given us the most epic of all tight end duos to play the game. Oh, what might have been... 4. A.J. Edds - Who? Exactly... Jesus. This one hurts worse than the Jerry pick. Geno Atkins got picked up right after, and there's no doubt I'd want him now. 5. Nolan Carroll - You know, prior to the start of this season I would have probably said no to this one. But in Patterson's absence, Carroll has finally begun to flash some potential. He certainly doesn't have an elite, or even great ceiling, but he's been getting it done, and you can never have enough of those on a team. 6. Reshad Jones - Nope. Miami actually nailed this one, in my opinion. Next... 7. Chris McCoy - This is where my knowledge gets a little shaky. Most of these names don't pop out at me, but I'd probably go with J'Marcus Webb, George Selvie, or R.J. Stanford (who, ironically, we do have now). 8. Austin Spitler - Eh. Draft is nearly over here, and to be honest, the dude's still on the roster making a home for himself as a specialist. You need guys to fill that role, so I'll stick with this one. Edited October 6, 2013 by Phins4life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted October 6, 2013 I do think Geno would be the best choice in the 2010 draft, that class was loaded with line talent. And if we're going pick by pick. 1a. Demaryius Thomas: Wouldn't change this pick. 1b. Tim Tebow. Not that anyone is super impressive immediately after, I do think Tebow is the best of this bunch aside from Devin McCourty. He'd be a hell of a safety for us, learning from B-Dawk. 2. Zane Beadles. Solid guard and all, but Daryl Washington was available just two picks later. Can you imagine him and Von Miller on the same corps? Crazy stuff man. Also loads of suspensions to be had. 3a. JD Walton. He was coming into his own, but he got hurt so there have to be better options out there. Probably just reach down all the way to pick 104 and take Alterraun Verner. 3b. Eric Decker. We're good. I really wanted him before the draft too, so it all works out. 5. Perrish Cox. Ugh. He looked so good on paper. Not a lot of options here, maybe we take John Skelton instead. Another QB who was basically Tebow Lite, won the games despite being utter shit in 2011. I didn't want to reach more than 20 picks down if I could help it. 6. Eric Olsen. meh. I'd have liked to grabbed Jonathan Dwyer or James Starks here, at least give our backs some depth. 7. Squid Thompson. Would have almost preferred to wait on GMRNS, since he's finally getting good now. 7b. Jammie Kirklew. Who? We could have taken Sean Lissemore instead, a solid depth 3-4 DE. Or perhaps some UDFA who exploded onto the scene, like Victor Cruz or Sam Shields. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025 Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) You guys are about to re-witness the genius of former Jags GM, Gene Smith: 1 (10) Tyson Alualu — The biggest WTF of the 2010 draft. Complete reach. He's a nice rotational guy, and much better as a run stopping end than a DT. But 10th pick of the draft? The Jags were severely lacking at FS this year (starter was Sean Considine... yeah...), my pick in the re-do is Earl Thomas who went 4 picks later. Jags next pick wasn't until the 3rd round #BecauseGeneSmith so... 3 (74) D'Anthony Smith — LOL. Is it any shock the Jags are so bad right now? Look at these picks. Anyways, I won't even go in to how Smith hasn't even played a full year in the NFL still. The Jags offense actually had one of it's best years since the Brunell/Smith/McCardell/Taylor era but struggled on defense. So I continue to re-do the defensive picks with another defender: NaVorro Bowman. Who went 17 picks later. Jags next pick wasn't until the 5th round #BecauseGeneSmith (did I mention is it any shock why the Jags are so bad now?) 5 (143) Larry Hart — WHO You ask? Your question is correct. Out of the league. The defensive overhaul continues: pairing together with Earl Thomas, I'll take Reshad Jones. The Jags were starting Courtney Greene at SS with FS Sean Considine that year. Yeah... so Earl Thomas and Reshad Jones being an upgrade is beyond an understatement. 5 (153) Austen Lane — Not a terrible pick for a 5th rounder. Great run stopper, but that's it. They already had one in Jeremy Mincey (who would later get confused for a pass rushing DE, and paid like one.) So my re-do addresses the complete lack of pass rush with the selection of Greg Hardy. Certainly an upgrade over Derrick Harvey. 6 (180) Deji Karim — Showed some flashes returning kicks. Fooled Del Rio and Co. in the preseason that he could be a solid change of pace RB. But like most 6th round picks he was just a guy. He never realized that potential on special teams. So let's go with a KR that actually did, Trindon Holliday. 6 (203) Scotty McGee — Quite possibly the best name for a Gene Smith pick ever. It literately sounds fake. Like Gene Smith was sleeping in the war room with a cheeto hanging out of his mouth and his assistant nudged him and told him the NFL said it was the Jags turn to pick. He let out one of his patented sighs and just shrugged and thought, "I dunno... uhhh... Scotty.... Scotty McGee, fuck it." Drafted to be a KR specialist he was terrible at everything. So I'll re-do that pick with a punt returner who actually did become something and go with Marc Mariani. Edited October 6, 2013 by CampinWithGoatSampson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted October 6, 2013 1 (13). We traded way up for Brandon Graham, but in hindsight, the media and fans who said we should have taken Earl Thomas were right. Thomas would be shoring up a huge weakness in our secondary. 2 (37) Nate Allen has sucked, making terrible use of the draft pick we got for Donovan McNabb. In hindsight, since we got a safety in the first round, here are some players who were also on the board: T.J. Ward, Rob Gronkowski, Daryl Washington, and Sean Lee. All of these guys would have filled needs, but who can argue with getting an elite game-changer like Gronk? 3 (86) Daniel Te'o-Nesheim was a vintage Andy Reid pick. Bum. With this pick we could have gotten Eric Decker, NaVorro Bowman, or Jimmy Graham. At the time, middle linebacker would have been the biggest need. The rest of the draft...blegh...I don't even feel like getting into it. At least we got Riley Cooper in the 5th round, who has been serviceable. Also, I never realized Geno Atkins was a 4th round pick. What a steal for Cincinnati. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attyla the Hawk 197 Posted October 6, 2013 Didn't we just do this a month ago? I'll just copy and paste: Seattle killed this draft. Still with the team in bold: R1 (6) Russell Okung pro bowl LT R1 (14) Earl Thomas 1st team All Pro FS R2 (40) Traded in part for Charlie Whitehurst and R2 (60) R2 (60) Golden Tate WR R3 (70) Traded in 2009 by POS Tim Ruskell. May God have mercy on the souls of whatever team gives him a job. R4 (104) Traded with R6 (176) for Lendale White, Kevin Vickerson R4 (111) and R6 (185) R4 (111) Walter Thurmond CB R4 (127) Acquired in trade for Darryl Tapp. EJ Wilson and Chris Clemons pro bowl DE R5 (133) Acquired in trade for Rob Sims G. Selected Kam Chancellor pro bowl SS R5 (139) Traded to NY Jets for R7 (236) and Leon Washington RB R6 (185) Anthony McCoy TE R7 (236) Dexter Davis LB While Leon Washington is no longer with the team, he certainly was an immediate win on that trade. Seattle added 8 players that contributed significantly since 2010, and of those 8, six have gone on to earn pro bowl honors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted October 6, 2013 Nice find. My bad on that. Although, this did spur not really with the expectationt hat everyone would redo their own drafts (not that I am complaining). More just a reaction to Bill's comments and what everyone thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted October 7, 2013 I looked over the draft and gathered what I consider the Top 30. Top 30:Atkins, Suh, G.McCoy, T.Williams, Berry, Okung, Haden, Spiller, A.Davis, E.Thomas, Pierre-Paul, Iupati, Pouncey, D.Thomas, D.Bryant, McCourty, Ward, Gronkowski, D.Washington, S.Lee, Veldheer, Decker, Bowman, J.Graham, Hernandez(Despite the murder he must be mentioned), Spikes, Chancellor, R.Jones, A.Brown, and Cruz. (Will add to later.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KempBolt 498 Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) I know I'm probably overlooking someone, and I'm sure that the order could be tweaked here and there, but this is basically what I think a first round re-do would look like today. Geno Atkins, DT (#120) Ndamukong Suh, DT (#2) Joe Haden, CB (#7) Rob Gronkowski, TE (#42) Jimmy Graham, TE (#95) Trent Williams, OT (#4) Demaryius Thomas, WR (#22) Dez Bryant, WR (#24) Sean Lee, MLB (#55) NaVorro Bowman, ILB, (#91) Russell Okung, OT (#6) Victor Cruz, WR (Undrafted) C.J. Spiller, RB (#9) Reshad Jones, S (#163) Greg Hardy, DE (#175) Mike Iupati, G (#17) Devin McCourty, S (#27) Gerald McCoy, DT (#3) Jared Veldheer, OT (#69) Jason Pierre-Paul, DE (#15) T.J. Ward, SS (#38) Antonio Brown, WR (#195) Eric Berry, S (#5) Daryl Washington, ILB (#47) Lamarr Houston, DE/DT, (#44) Bryan Bulaga, OT (#23) Anthony Davis, OT (#11) Kam Chancellor, SS (#133) Carlos Dunlap, DE (#54) Jon Asamoah, G (#68) Sam Shields, CB, (Undrafted) Donald Butler, ILB, (#79) Only 14 of the players I consider to be the 32 best from the 2010 class were first rounders. 6 were 2nd rounders, 5 were 3rd rounders. Leaving 7 players that were taken after the first 3 rounds, or signed as undrafted free agents. Edited October 7, 2013 by KempBolt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KempBolt 498 Posted October 7, 2013 Nice find. My bad on that. Although, this did spur not really with the expectationt hat everyone would redo their own drafts (not that I am complaining). More just a reaction to Bill's comments and what everyone thought. Yeah, I didn't start that other thread with that intention either. Oh well. I guess people talk about what they know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted October 7, 2013 I know I'm probably overlooking someone, and I'm sure that the order could be tweaked here and there, but this is basically what I think a first round re-do would look like today. Geno Atkins, DT (#120) Ndamukong Suh, DT (#2) Joe Haden, CB (#7) Rob Gronkowski, TE (#42) Jimmy Graham, TE (#95) Trent Williams, OT (#4) Demaryius Thomas, WR (#22) Dez Bryant, WR (#24) Sean Lee, MLB (#55) NaVorro Bowman, ILB, (#91) Russell Okung, OT (#6) Victor Cruz, WR (Undrafted) C.J. Spiller, RB (#9) Reshad Jones, S (#163) Greg Hardy, DE (#175) Mike Iupati, G (#17) Devin McCourty, S (#27) Gerald McCoy, DT (#3) Jared Veldheer, OT (#69) Jason Pierre-Paul, DE (#15) T.J. Ward, SS (#38) Antonio Brown, WR (#195) Eric Berry, S (#5) Daryl Washington, ILB (#47) Lamarr Houston, DE/DT, (#44) Bryan Bulaga, OT (#23) Anthony Davis, OT (#11) Kam Chancellor, SS (#133) Carlos Dunlap, DE (#54) Jon Asamoah, G (#68) Sam Shields, CB, (Undrafted) Donald Butler, ILB, (#79) Only 14 of the players I consider to be the 32 best from the 2010 class were first rounders. 6 were 2nd rounders, 5 were 3rd rounders. Leaving 7 players that were taken after the first 3 rounds, or signed as undrafted free agents.No Earl Thomas? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites