Sarge+ 3,436 Posted February 5, 2014 I still like that deal considering Freeman's age and ability. I bet by the end the Braves will get their money's worth out of it, especially as contracts for good players continue to rise over the life of Freeman's contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Phillies sign A.J. Burnett 1 year 16 mil. I wanted him back, but he's not worth that much. He'll give up a lot of homers in that bandbox. I'll always remember him for helping to turn us around, though. Edit: Just saw that Hamels has shoulder tendinitis and won't be ready for Opening Day. It's cute that the Phillies still think they can win now. lolRubenAmaroJr. Time to rebuild, son. Edited February 12, 2014 by Sarge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted February 12, 2014 With Burnett officially out of the picture: Projected 2014 Pittsburgh Pirates Opening Day Starting Rotation: SP1 – Francisco Liriano SP2 – Gerrit Cole SP3 – Charlie Morton SP4 – Edinson Volquez SP5 – Wandy Rodriguez Early Season Depth – Jeff Locke, Jeanmar Gomez, Brandon Cumpton, Phil Irwin, Stolmy Pimentel Second Half Depth – Jameson Taillon, Nick Kingham, Kyle McPherson, Casey Sadler I think with an elite defensive catcher and 2 elite defensive outfielders, this rotation should give us a great shot at competing for the playoffs again in 2014. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southgadawg 52 Posted February 12, 2014 Sarge I can't see why Philly wanted to pay Burnett THAT much money. Yes he had a fantastic season but duplicating it will be difficult for sure especially since the Phillies defense is not nearly as good as the D of the Pirates. I think IF (and only IF) the Phillies can catch 'lightning in a bottle' with a few of their players having bounce back type years then they will be dangerous. But I honestly expect them to be very inconsistent and play horrible defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted February 12, 2014 Burnett is a flyball pitcher. Bad news in Citizens Bank Park. And the Phillies don't have an elite defensive catcher (Martin), elite defensive CF (McCutchen) and elite defensive LF (Marte). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted February 13, 2014 If we had a decent lineup I'd be happy about the deal even though we're overpaying. But we don't have a decent lineup. So yeah, we suck. In a best case scenario, Burnett keeps us out of the cellar and stuck in mediocrity, where we belong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted February 13, 2014 Pretty sure most of the Phillies roster is collecting social security. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tridentdawgpound 1,043 Posted February 13, 2014 Just rename the ballpark to Senior Citizens Bank Park already. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLUE 1,026 Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) I hate the Yankees, but I'm really the first person to post about Derek Jeter retiring after this season? I always respected him even though I hated his team. Same with Mariano Rivera, Bernie Williams, Joe Torre etc. Edited February 13, 2014 by BLUE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted February 13, 2014 I hate the Yankees, but I'm really the first person to post about Derek Jeter retiring after this season? I always respected him even though I hated his team. Same with Mariano Rivera, Bernie Williams, Joe Torre etc. Agreed. Fuck the Yankees, but Jeter is class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted February 14, 2014 https://twitter.com/mlbbowman/status/434349587914969090 My favorite Braves pitcher locked up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tridentdawgpound 1,043 Posted February 14, 2014 Deal is 6/32.4 with an option for 2020. Love it. Now get Simmons and we contend for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southgadawg 52 Posted February 14, 2014 http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/atlanta-braves-sign-six-year-contract-with-pitcher-julio-teheran?ymd=20140214&content_id=67770938&vkey=news_mlb My only concern is that he has only had one season and pitchers burn out so easy. Look at what happened to Jair Jurrjens and to Tommy Hanson. It looked like both of them had bright futures but both of them have careers in jeopardy now. I really hope this deal works out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted February 14, 2014 It's roughly 5.5 a year. Even if he burns out, I think it was a great investment for the Braves. 5.5 is relatively nothing in the MLB these days -- and if he does continue to improve? What a huge steal they just got. Even if he doesn't get any better, just do what he did last year and I could settle with giving him 5.5 million a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tridentdawgpound 1,043 Posted February 14, 2014 I'm just glad that we're actually spending money and not acting like some small market team. Georgia is a hot bed for baseball talent and the people here love the game. You are a big market team. Spend like it. Love it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southgadawg 52 Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Yeah I didn't realize what the money part was (think you posted that info while i was typing my other post). I am also glad to see the Braves planning more on the future despite the fact that from my understanding they actually have the worst tv contract of any team. Now we just need to get Simmons wrapped up long time because even if he doesn't hit any better (which I think he will) his glove alone is unreal and saves a ton of runs. Oh and fangraphs had an interesting article imho on Teheran: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/julio-teheran-and-hidden-inflation/ Edited February 14, 2014 by southgadawg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southgadawg 52 Posted February 16, 2014 Now it looks like Craig Kimbrel will be with the Braves for a few more seasons: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10465068/craig-kimbrel-atlanta-braves-agree-terms-four-year-deal Let's go ahead and get Mike Minor and Andrelton Simmons while we are at it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted February 16, 2014 I'm one of those guys who thinks $10.5M per year is ridiculous for a bullpen pitcher, but if there's anyone who's worth it, it's Kimbrel. Braves are locking up cornerstones left and right, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted February 16, 2014 I generally agree with you... But as the best closer in the game right now, it looks like a huge steal with guys like Soriano making $14 per and Papelbon making $13 per. The Braves are killing it with these deals they've negotiated recently. Locking up their biggest stars for (and I very well could be wrong) what I perceive be a decent amount under market value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tridentdawgpound 1,043 Posted February 16, 2014 The "Trade Kimbrel" rhetoric was floating around mainly because fans felt we'd need to replenish the farm because Heyward and Freeman would walk. Freeman obviously isn't and Heyward may or may not. But now that we have a good deal of guys locked up long term, this is better. Nice to see that beautiful breaking ball in a Braves uniform for a few more years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLUE 1,026 Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) https://twitter.com/hoynsie/statuses/435213353724542976 Homer Bailey has certainly improved over the past couple years, but this still seems a bit excessive, to me. That's today's market, though. Edited February 17, 2014 by BLUE 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tridentdawgpound 1,043 Posted February 18, 2014 Jimenez to Baltimore, 4/48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted February 18, 2014 Francisco Liriano named Opening Day starter, as expected. Cubs shook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southgadawg 52 Posted February 19, 2014 Been awhile since we have looked at the ESPN free agent tracker to see where they have signed and who is still available: Robinson Cano--mariners Jacoby Ellsbury--yanks Ubaldo Jiminez---O's Shin-Soo choo---rangers Ervin Santana--FA Ricky Nolasco--dodgers Brian McCann--yanks Stephen Drew---FA AJ Burnett---phillies Matt Garza---brewers Mike Napoli--red sox Curtis Granderson--mets Jarrod Saltalamacchia--marlins Bartolo Colon--mets Jhonny Peralta--cards Carlos Beltran--yanks Scott Feldmon--astros Hiroki Kuroda--yanks Scott Kazmir---A's Tim Hudson--giants Dan Haren--dodgers Nelson Cruz--FA Juan Uribe--dodgers Kendry Morales--FA Jason Vargas--royals kinda surprised so many players out of that list are still unsigned. Of that list and my INITIAL picks I listed I got Napoli, Kuroda, and Uribe right. Pretty pitiful so far lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southgadawg 52 Posted February 20, 2014 Braves have now locked up Simmons as well: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10489179/andrelton-simmons-latest-member-atlanta-braves-get-extension looks like they should field some decent teams for awhile...Now all that is left is to get Minor under contract for a few years too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
