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Ya, crazy how that works isn't it? lol

Iowa has only missed the Democratic nominee twice in the last 50 years. There were rumors and articles before about how the DNC was pushing hard for the moderates in the group, but that's obviously becoming reality. Biden was probably supposed to be the chosen one... but on account of him being a corpse, they had to shift lanes a bit. I still wouldn't be shocked if Warren pulls some stupid deal out of her ass, as she's slowly kinda edging a little more middle of the road. Mayor Pete can't even run the city he is mayor of... Where is this shit coming from? lmao

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He should get crushed at the debates by both the moderators and the other candidates. Hopefully they can all agree that Bloomberg is a toad and the DNC is a sham.

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18 hours ago, seanbrock said:

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We need to be done with this party. Their corruption is astounding. 

I don't see this as a good thing for Bloomberg at all. He's going to get destroyed on stage. The DNC wanted him on stage just to have him get murdered by the other candidates, IMO. He's polling at what, 8%?

Yall are all ridiculously overreacting. Iowa caucuses have always been a shitshow and the DNC needs to change it. But there is no way Buttigieg gets the nomination. You might as well hand the Presidency to Trump, because there is no way in hell a gay man beats Trump.

Remember what I said about how Biden has a shot because the racist part of Trump's base won't be as motivated? Well you can at least double that as far as people who will simply vote against a gay person just because. That's not even getting into his policies, which are decidedly centrist and not going to motivate the Dem's base to vote for him

As far as Iowa goes, the most progressive counties in Iowa are left to count, that's first.

Secondly, yelling that's a rigged primary when we have a paper trail of *all* votes counted is just being a conspiracy nutter for no sake other than to yell conspiracy. 

The issue is things like the district where Bernie won 4.8 delegates with 104 votes and Pete won 3.2 delegates with 66 votes. And somehow the geniuses in charge decided to flip a coin instead of making it a 5-3 split. So they both end up with 4 delegates when Bernie had 60% more actual votes. Bernie is going to win Iowa going away in terms of the popular vote and he's way ahead in NH. 

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So Deval Patrick got more votes than Andrew Yang?

Hmmm

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Lmao. 97% of the votes are reported from Iowa. Bernie pulled within 0.1% of Mayor Pete.. and all of a sudden Tom Perez (DNC Chair) is calling for a recanvass. 3 days later. Right as Bernie is gonna take the lead. ROFL

EDIT: Also Sean, I am not syaing that information is wrong... but the NY Times has Deval Patrick only getting 49 votes on the first vote total... Maybe that's just one random ass Black Hawk county precinct that isn't reported but... "Other" got 100 more votes total than Patrick did (again, according to the Times). Yang got 5% of the first votes, and (like me and many many others) most of us Yang supporters just left instead of realigning. 

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This could not have gone worse for Democrats. It's either fishy because it's rigged or they're so fucking unorganized that it looks fishy.

Democrats are the laughingstock of our society at this point in history. Whether they should or shouldn't be, they've done it to themselves.

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Yeah, like I was telling Blots (and like you mentioned). Even if it isn't rigged... There's a lot of things that line up to make it seem that way. |Regardless of the the truth is, the optics are insanely bad. Mayor Pete donating more than $20,000 to this app company... the app not working and thus results can't be released. We are 3 days after the fact and we still don't have them all. And the fact that the initial batch of results shows a Pete lead... and with more results being released the smaller and smaller his lead becomes... And then when his lead shrinks to almost the smallest it possibly can be... 0.1%, the DNC Chair comes out and demands a recount. Again, three days later and not until after Bernie is about to beat Pete. Just so bad. lol

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Anyone who doesn't think this was rigged is just extremely naive lol. 

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Their platform has allowed room for the crazy, and the crazy is wreaking havoc on their public image. It lost them 2016 by a convincing margin, and will lead to a 2020 landslide loss. 

The only way to come back from this is to start saying "no" to the crazy. Will they have the balls to do it? 

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19 hours ago, BwareDWare94 said:

Their platform has allowed room for the crazy, and the crazy is wreaking havoc on their public image. It lost them 2016 by a convincing margin, and will lead to a 2020 landslide loss. 

The only way to come back from this is to start saying "no" to the crazy. Will they have the balls to do it? 

You know the answer to this. lol

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On 2/7/2020 at 4:17 AM, seanbrock said:

Anyone who doesn't think this was rigged is just extremely naive lol. 

There is, again, a paper trail. There was a glitch in the system that awarded Deval's votes to Bernie. Because they had the paper trail, that has since been fixed.

Anyone who thinks this is rigged is just looking for something to get mad about. They have a paper trail back to the original votes in every case. It's not a good look, to be sure, but its clearly not rigged if you took half a second to look into it instead of just re-posting conspiracy nonsense.

 

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Isn't it funny how all these "mistakes" and coin flips go against Sanders?  Lol

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Yeah it is. And Im gonna have to reverse my initial opinion here. There's a lot more people coming out with said paper trail saying it doesn't add up. It goes beyond the Deval Patrick votes going to Sanders, and its not just Sanders either, it hurt Warren too. The primary benefactor seems to be Buttigieg, though he does lose a couple of delegates incorrectly, overall he gains significantly more than he should have. 

I remain unconvinced this is intentional. I think its far more likely the IDP- note the DNC was not the ones running this- made a colossal mistake here in not testing the app on the ground well in advance of the primary, and had a technical malfunction that they are trying to brush under the rug and make go away.

Note that the AP has debunked Pete's campaign funding the app as well. They have, in the past, given money to Shadow Inc, (like wtf, this is as bad as that ski resort being named the Contaminated Mountain of Love or w/e), the company who developed the app, but it was far prior to this. And Klobuchar, Biden, and the DNC have all also paid this company for their services on various occasions. 

I don't really think this helped Pete at all. The backlash against him here resonated with a lot of people. Had he just flat out won, or even took second, that's a huge momentum boost to a campaign that desperately needed it. Now he's gonna have a ton of people that will, in all likelihood, vote third party like sean, since they are convinced the DNC is trying to make him the nominee.

Which, again, I point out is incredibly stupid if your sole goal here is to beat Trump. There is no way in hell a gay man beats Trump. He won't get a single delegate from the Southern states. Plus he isn't going to get the required 90%+ of the black vote given his history of racial suppression. The dude defended the South Bend police wearing and selling shirts that said "Breathe free. Obey law enforcement" after the Eric Garner debacle where the dude was choked to death in NYC. Remember the rallying cry for Garner was "I can't breathe" its a direct shot at the people who were outraged by the incident.

If Klobuchar didn't have the personality of a vacuum cleaner, she'd be a great pick. Biden has got to hang on until we get to SC and such. Bernie is the frontrunner IMO, and its now his race to lose. Pete is going to fall off hard after New Hampshire, I still don't give him much of a chance. I think its down to Biden and Bernie. Warren needs to drop out and endorse Bernie. It'd throw him over the top and give us a heavy favorite which the Dems really need right now. We need this not to drag into April/May with no clear winner.

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Yang just dropped out, to no surprise. Didn't care much for his policies, but he was prob of the only Dems that isn't bat shit crazy and obsessed with Trump. Genuinely good guy. 
 

Meanwhile, looks like Pedophile Joe is going to end up finishing 5th in New Hampshire. Terrible look for a guy that's supposedly "most electable". 

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in the nearly 30 years Joe has been running for president, he's never finished higher than 4th in a primary or caucus.

I hope you're all prepared for a Trump / Buttchug election.

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Yang going out makes me sad. He’s genuinely a great human being. I like Tulsi but I don’t know how long that train is running for either. Idk if I can come around to any of the others. Bernie, Warren, Biden, and Pete are all complete non-starters for me. Assuming Tulsi doesn’t go the distance.... She doesn’t excite me but Klobuchar is probably thenext best option (just for me personally). 

Probably voting 3rd party again. Yay. Lmao 
 

Trump gonna sweep the leg vs Bernie. Those debates are going to be ugly AF. Lmao. 

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Bernie turns out young people and minorities. That's how democrats win. Not sure why people are so sure Trump will beat him. 

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I just think he divides Democrats too much. Not saying that’s necessarily bad or even his fault. But uniting the moderate and progressive sides of the party doesn’t seem like (right now and just my opinion) something he is going to be able to accomplish. There are going to be too many Democrats that peel off and just don’t vote if Bernie has the nod. 
 

He will still get a lot of votes, don’t get me wrong. But it won’t be near enough. 

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5 hours ago, seanbrock said:

Bernie turns out young people and minorities. That's how democrats win. Not sure why people are so sure Trump will beat him. 

Getting support from entitled millennials that just want free shit and handouts will only take him so far. Of course he'll also get votes because he's not Trump, but these are the same people that believe Trump is worse than Hitler. If he gets the nomination, he will get curb stomped in November. 
 

This is also very telling. Dems don't realize that the Impeachment Hoax and their obsession with trying to take down Trump has backfired in a major way. Americans are waking up and realizing that Dems are the true problem in this country.

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2 hours ago, DJT20 said:

Getting support from entitled millennials that just want free shit and handouts will only take him so far. Of course he'll also get votes because he's not Trump, but these are the same people that believe Trump is worse than Hitler. If he gets the nomination, he will get curb stomped in November. 
 

This is also very telling. Dems don't realize that the Impeachment Hoax and their obsession with trying to take down Trump has backfired in a major way. Americans are waking up and realizing that Dems are the true problem in this country.

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Medicare for All being classified as "just wanting free stuff" is about the dumbest characterization. You can do better than just repeating Fox News fearmongering. Is having police and firefighters come help you because of your taxes just "getting free stuff?" 

The polls- even the ones on Fox News- show otherwise on impeachment. Americans supported impeachment 50-44. 75% of them wanted witnesses in the Senate trial. The GOP railroaded it through anyway. Americans know Trump committed a crime. And he just continues to dig himself in a deeper hole. Now he wants to strip Vindman of his medals after firing him- and his twin, who did nothing. 

Then he sticks his nose in the Roger Stone case and causes all four prosecutors to resign because they won't be part of the President getting his buddy's sentence reduced.

How any sane functioning adult can continue to support this dictator wanna be is beyond me. Like, I get it if you feel you have to vote for him because you don't want the Dems to take over. I disagree, but I understand the position. But to be an actual enthusiastic supporter makes you basically part of a cult at this point.

Dear Leader can do no wrong and everything is part of the master plan kinda thing. 

Does that mean he's not gonna get re-elected? Absolutely not. The DNC has royally fucked this up at the beginning and I think they may have gone and put themselves in a lose-lose. As Favre said, Bernie has polarized a lot of things. Buttigieg's line about "you have to be part of the revolution or you're the enemy, essentially" is exactly how Bernie makes a lot of moderates feel. But if they don't nominate Bernie, the people like sean that are convinced the entire thing is a plot by the DNC to strip Bernie of the nomination will vote third party instead of voting for the Dem nominee. The way the "bernie bros" act, the DNC needed a near-flawless primary here, and they have done anything but at this point.

Honestly if I had to choose between getting rid of Trump or McConnell at this point, I'd choose Mitch. He's done more damage to our democracy for far longer than Trump. Ideally, we get rid of both of them, of course, but the DNC is not exactly inspiring confidence at this point.

Edit: The NH thing is also stupid. Leave it to Fox for the propaganda here, lol. The GOP has lost 20,000 voters on the rolls since 2016 in NH. People are leaving the Republican party if they are disgusted with Trump.

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Thanatos, you are such a brainwashed, radical far left fucking snowflake.

Dems have wanted Trump impeached since DAY ONE. Since election night in 2016. Tell me the "crimes" Trump has committed. The whole impeachment hoax was based on feelings, not facts. Every Dem that spoke started off with "I believe", "I think", "I feel". No facts, their pussy was just hurt and is still hurt.

Also hilarious that you refer to Trump as a "dictator". What makes him a dictator? You do realize that Trump and his administration has accomplished far more in 4 years for America than Obama did 8 years? Go Google "Trump administration accomplishments" and see the FACTS. 
 

Now go fuck off and vote for a Socialist in Bernie Sanders. How's socialism worked out in other countries? Answer that one for me.

I'll have your safe space ready for you to cry in after Trump gets re-elected. On the bright side, the left will have another 4 years to try to get Trump impeached and removed again. ORANGE MAN BAD!!! TRUMP RACIST, ALL OF HIS SUPPORTERS ARE NAZIS!!!!1111

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