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Elizabeth Warren raised a ton of money last month too.

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Ya, even though Bernie dominated most of California he lost a lot of ground like.... everywhere else. A big problem now too is.... the Dems aren’t going to need a ton of help carrying California in November. Bernie needs to bring more to the table.

The people that are excited about him are very excited about him, which is why you see his big dono numbers. But it doesn’t look like his movement spread or grew that much since 2016. 

States that he dominated Hillary in in 2016 are going heavy Biden. Biden is winning states without having paid for a single ad or making a single campaign stop there. And Bernie’s people were hyping up that they were getting California and Texas... and then he lost Texas. That’s also pretty huge. 

It’s obvious that Bernie has the enthusiasm of younger voters, but traditionally it’s older people that are voting in much larger numbers— so that only goes so far. 
 

This might all come back down to the Midwest. Bernie was owning Joe early in the heavy working class / white states loke Iowa and NH. Seems like a lot of them liked Pete, and now that he’s gone where will those voters turn.... if Minnesota is any indication, it isn’t to Bernie. Obviously Klobuchar’s endorsement helped a lot there as well. 
 

But it will be interesting to see if the rest of the Midwest follows suit or breaks rank. 

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Bloomberg has dropped out and is endorsing and bankrolling Biden.

The establishment wing of the Democratic party hath come down hard and swift in the last 48 hours. Get rekt, Bernie.

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Wow that happened fast. It’s premature but I would almost say it’s over. His staff, his money, his reach.... it’s pretty ridiculous.
 

Maybe Bernie can make up some ground in the debates though. Joe’s last two teleprompter speeches weren’t bad at all. But when he looks like a moron during most of the debates. Might be Bernie’s only chance. 

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7 hours ago, SteVo said:

Elizabeth Warren raised a ton of money last month too.

Yeah from a super pac lol

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Dude.. Bernie had another pretty shit press conference (just my opinion). He sounded pretty defeated again and just blamed people and the media for his beat down last night. Not saying he is wrong, or that I blame him for feeling like crap... But perhaps it's time to deliver his message in a new way? All he is doing is pandering to the people who already like him. He needs to asses where he stands and how he actually begins growing his base.

Regardless of the delegates awarded, the fact is he got 31% of the vote Tuesday, Biden was at almost 40%. A million more people voted for Biden than Bernie... I am not saying that he needs to change his message, but just the way he delivers it.

I don't know how Bernie goes into the next debate and says, " I am the best suited to beat Trump ". if he can't even rally to beat Sleepy Joe.
 

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Well, if Bernie loses the nomination it'll be because he failed to grow his base from 2016. Like F4E alluded to, the people who like Bernie really like Bernie, but how many more people have joined that group over the last four years?

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16 hours ago, seanbrock said:

He just crushed his record for donations in a month with 45 million. 350,000 new donations. Get your head out of the sand, man. 

Get your head out of your tinfoil hat.

How does this prove anything? Stop spreading baseless conspiracy theories and grow up. Just because the world isn't something you like doesn't mean it has to be rigged. 

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Trump got 450k more votes than Bernie in liberal ass California. :yao:

Also very happy that mini Mike dropped out so that I don't have to see or hear another ad from this cocksucker. $650 mil down the shitter just like that. 

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Unfortunately he made more than that during this time. He is literally making more money than he can spend.

Fox News talking points about Trump getting more votes than any one of the Dem nominees is such a dumb point lol. That is literally always the case. No one's splitting the vote.

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7 hours ago, Thanatos said:

Get your head out of your tinfoil hat.

How does this prove anything? Stop spreading baseless conspiracy theories and grow up. Just because the world isn't something you like doesn't mean it has to be rigged. 

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/massive-voter-suppression-in-texas-primary-likened-to-poll-tax/

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/election/article240811361.html

 

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I was reading about some of that and how some people were waiting in like 7 hour lines... pretty ridiculous. Needs to be changed / fixed. Added stations, added polling areas, working machines, etc. 

I don’t know if we can say that substantially hurt Bernie though. A lot of the areas being F’d over were neighborhoods of color. Bernie has been doing well with Latinos so there’s probably some there, but lots of black neighborhoods as well which are overwhelmingly Biden. 
 

Again, obviously an issue that needs to be fixed. Don’t think that means there’s a Bernie conspiracy 

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1 hour ago, DalaiLama4Ever said:

I was reading about some of that and how some people were waiting in like 7 hour lines... pretty ridiculous. Needs to be changed / fixed. Added stations, added polling areas, working machines, etc. 

I don’t know if we can say that substantially hurt Bernie though. A lot of the areas being F’d over were neighborhoods of color. Bernie has been doing well with Latinos so there’s probably some there, but lots of black neighborhoods as well which are overwhelmingly Biden. 
 

Again, obviously an issue that needs to be fixed. Don’t think that means there’s a Bernie conspiracy 

Exactly. "Do not attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

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Elizabeth Warren has suspended her campaign. She will not endorse either candidate (until a nominee is chosen I assume)

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Tulsi outlasts Pocahontas. Nice. :slingblade:

Looking more like Biden will get the nomination. Can't decide  who I want to see Trump embarrass, bully, and verbally skull fuck more in a debate... Pedophile Joe, or Mr Free Shit Socialist Bernie???

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LMAOOO.

Bloomberg spent $500 million on adds. US population is 327 million. According to this tweet and the two geniuses on here, that means he could have given every American 1 million dollars and still had money left over. Hoooly shit.

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This is why you pay attention to math in school. Holy fucking shitballs.

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The Democratic Establishment refuses to give any real backing to their by far best female candidate (Tulsi). Warren and Klobuchar both epically failed, then the Democratic Establishment blames misogyny.

The irony is just astounding. The Democrats are an unholy circus of incompetence right now.

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22 minutes ago, BwareDWare94 said:

The Democratic Establishment refuses to give any real backing to their by far best female candidate (Tulsi). Warren and Klobuchar both epically failed, then the Democratic Establishment blames misogyny.

The irony is just astounding. The Democrats are an unholy circus of incompetence right now.

Because Tulsi isn't a pandering, fake "woke" progressive puppet. Tulsi also speaks too freely for Dems' liking. 

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6 hours ago, SteVo said:

This is why you pay attention to math in school. Holy fucking shitballs.

They are the ones who ignored Yang all the time. #Math clearly isn’t their thing. Lol 

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11 hours ago, BwareDWare94 said:

The Democratic Establishment refuses to give any real backing to their by far best female candidate (Tulsi). Warren and Klobuchar both epically failed, then the Democratic Establishment blames misogyny.

The irony is just astounding. The Democrats are an unholy circus of incompetence right now.

Tulsi needs to drop out. Needed to a long time ago. She has no path and hasn't had any for awhile. When Yang didn't have a path, he left, as he should have. Tulsi is not going to be allowed on the debate stage, nor should she, she's not a serious contender at this point. Just because someone refuses to face reality doesn't really mean they are still a candidate. I like Tulsi, quite a bit, but she has no business to still be running for the nomination.

Needs to be just Bernie and Biden and let them go at each other.

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14 hours ago, Thanatos said:

Tulsi needs to drop out. Needed to a long time ago. She has no path and hasn't had any for awhile. When Yang didn't have a path, he left, as he should have. Tulsi is not going to be allowed on the debate stage, nor should she, she's not a serious contender at this point. Just because someone refuses to face reality doesn't really mean they are still a candidate. I like Tulsi, quite a bit, but she has no business to still be running for the nomination.

Needs to be just Bernie and Biden and let them go at each other.

Agree with every word of this.

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17 hours ago, Thanatos said:

Tulsi needs to drop out. Needed to a long time ago. She has no path and hasn't had any for awhile. When Yang didn't have a path, he left, as he should have. Tulsi is not going to be allowed on the debate stage, nor should she, she's not a serious contender at this point. Just because someone refuses to face reality doesn't really mean they are still a candidate. I like Tulsi, quite a bit, but she has no business to still be running for the nomination.

Needs to be just Bernie and Biden and let them go at each other.

I don't really disagree this far in... But, does it even really matter? She's at less than a percent, isn't she? She doesn't really take up any air time. I was just googling her official Super Tuesday results, and there are a number of websites that don't even mention her. As long as she isn't misleading her donors, I don't see a huge problem with her going around the country listening to concerns of Americans. 

I was really surprised Warren ended her campaign... I was never going to vote for her, but she had a very strong (IMO) message and she seems genuinely passionate. I wouldn't have held it against her at all if she kept going, even though the nomination after ST was impossible or near impossible. And to be honest, I really hate the idea of the establishment contacting these campaigns and telling them to leave the race. 

I get the idea behind it... but even when Yang dropped out, it really unsettled me that he said outside people were telling him his campaign was doing no good and that he was best served shutting it down. No, he wasn't going to win the nomination, but his campaign was about more than that to a lot of people. It's this practical blackmail and forced consolidation that has given us a creeper dementia-ridden Joe Biden as the party leader who is going to be factually obliterated by Bernie in the debates and then ridiculed and humiliated by Trump in the general. 

That isn't winning or good for the country.

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When you have no path you are simply splitting up the votes and making it harder for the Dems to figure out their candidate ASAP which is absolutely critical to beating Trump. Trump has been sitting there amassing this giant war chest and not suffering at all. Getting the nominee picked before the convention would be a huge boost to the Dems chances of winning.

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Point taken, but I don't think Tulsi is really thwarting that effort at all. Biden's campaign said they just raised $22M in less than a week which is almost what he totaled last quarter... Bernie is divisive and isn't unifying anybody anyway so... lol

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