Alex Smith to KC rumors... >:O

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Alex Smith will not be with the San Francisco 49ers next season, as NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported earlier this week. So where might he land?

 

Mr. RapSheet named the Buffalo Bills, Philadelphia Eagles, Arizona Cardinals and Kansas City Chiefs as teams that have shown early interest. For new Chiefs coach Andy Reid, it's apparently not the first time he's shown interest in Smith.

 

The San Francisco Chronicle quotes ESPN's Trent Dilfer as saying Reid "really likes Alex."

 

"There was a courtship last year, to a certain degree," Dilfer said.

 

Dilfer is a fantastic source on Smith news because the two men are close friends from their days together as teammates. Perhaps Reid at one point considered trading for Smith or the Eagles thought about signing Smith as a free agent last year.

 

"I don't know a whole lot. I just know there was a courtship. It was not even an inside source, you know what I mean? It was just kind of the scuttle in the offseason," Dilfer said.

 

Smith does fit the profile of a potential Reid quarterback.

 

"I think Andy wants to change a little bit offensively," Dilfer said. "Alex is a guy with a huge capacity (to learn). You can give him a lot and he can handle it. Andy has always been able to get the most out of guys that don't have extreme talent."

 

It sounds like a perfect fit for both sides. The Chiefs are starting over from scratch at quarterback.

 

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I'll start off by saying how badly I want to be wrong about this and that I will still root for the Chiefs no matter who is under center, but that being said...

 

Rant upcoming...

 

What a surprise: Trent Dilfer has the scoop on Matt Cassel 2.0. After all, they're pretty much the same guy. Just when I thought it was safe to get excited... What a bunch of shit. Harbaugh did damn near everything he could to get rid of Smith—calling designed runs for his slow ass, having him lead block on toss plays, bench him for a kid who's never started a game in the middle of a super bowl run—and this is the guy Reid "really likes?"

 

One decent full season in 8 years, and now we're enamored with the guy? REALLY?!? He's only played 16 games twice in his career, and he's almost 30 with a noodle arm. Hell, if this is what they're gonna do, go get Colt McCoy too so we can have a legit QB competition in camp. He's like a Brady Quinn 2.0, so the move makes sense.

 

This team has talent, but we all know how little that means if the QB sucks balls. What good is a Ferrari if the driver is a ten-year-old girl who can't see over the wheel and sucks at Mario Kart? Don't give me shit on a stick and call it a pudding pop. Alex Smith is as useless as a hooker with a latex allergy. An 80-year-old man living in a iron lung is stronger than Alex Smith's arm. If Alex Smith was in a porno, he'd be the pool guy who watches the other pool guy bang a porn star. He's as accurate as the FBI's account of the Kennedy Assassination. I can squeeze coal into diamonds with my bare hands faster than Alex Smith runs the 40. Also, he's not very good...

 

Again, I really hope that I'm wrong, but I'm just so tired of taking someone else's crap-ass QB and trying to "get the most out of him" or hoping that he overachieves or praying for 200 rushing yards per game to carry the Chiefs to a 10 win season and MAYBE a playoff birth that ultimately leads to just one more loss with no real snowball's chance in hell of actually contending. I'm still really pleased with the staff that Reid has brought in, and this isn't a done deal or anything, but I'm a little jaded from the last 19 years of being a Chiefs fan.

 

Thank you, have a nice day, and go

[RazorStar 4,025]

You guys have the first overall pick. Maybe you draft a guy like Mike Glennon or Geno Smith and you'll probably have the same problem. I mean these guys in the draft are the next Trent Edwards and Pat White.

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I wouldn't mind taking Manuel if we can get him outside of the first round.

[AllYouNeedIsLovie 377]

I wouldn't be surprised. Smith is probably the best QB available unless they want to take a risk with Matt Flynn. If this years QB class wasn't so weak, they could just take a QB at #1, but they probably realize none of the QB's this year are worth the first pick.

[seanbrock 1,684]

Alex Smith could work in Andy's system with a good line in front of him. It could be a mistake to have him throw 40 times a game every game.

[Thanatos 2,847]

Alex Smith could totally work in KC, Bowe. What you guys can't do is rush to fix a problem when there are no surefire solutions in this year's draft.

[Glanvilles Grits 142]

One and a half* good seasons. Say what you want about Alex Smith but he was making all the throws that even an Andy Reid offense would ask him to make. No way would Smith have been benched this year had Colin Kaepernick not come in and shown his play making ability with his feet.I think if Kaep went on the field and threw the ball the way he did, and then Smith got healthy, it would have been Smith on the field still. NOT Kaepernick. But the fact the guy is an athlete and not just a QB? That's what set him over the top this season and allowed the 49ers to keep him in front of Smith.

 

I'm probably in the minority when it comes to really believing that Alex Smith isn't a bad quarterback. It's just like any quarterback in the league, put them in the right system and they will flourish. Put them in the wrong system, and they will look like, well, like Trent Dilfer.

 

Edit: I use the word "any" very loosely. I'm not talking about those guys up in the top 10 of NFL quarterbacks, I'm more talking about the rest of the list.

Edited February 2, 2013 by Rain Man

[Glanvilles Grits 142]

Also, apologies for the double post but you have to think about the team as a whole in this entire thought process. There is so much talent on the Chiefs roster, I think everyone can agree with that. It's no secret that the Chiefs can run the football and they do it very well, do they really need a quarterback who's going to be throwing the football 30 - 40 times a game? I don't believe they do. If I was a Chiefs fan, I would be semi-excited to hear about the possibilities of a guy like Alex Smith coming to the team. A guy who clearly has shown he can protect the football and let the talent around him work well. He also made quite a few deep throws when they asked him to. The running game has to be strong, as long as they have that then Smith is the quarterback for them.

[Dutch 874]

If the Chiefs pick up Alex Smith, if Bowe stays and they pick up another good receiving option WR or TE (better than or to compliment Moeaki), then their offense would be pretty solid. They have talent on the defensive side of the ball as well. I can see them making some noise if they get the QB situation together.

[Piggly Wiggly 960]

EJ Manuel will be dog shit in the NFL, so pass on him (even if he's still available in the 2nd round). Alex Smith. Dunno, if you can get him for cheap, I say what the hell, but the thought of bringing in a game manager that's only had one solid season doesn't seem too appetizing to me.

 

Best case scenario is to keep tanking and select Aaron Murray next year.

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I would much rather take Alex Smith over taking a QB #1.

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Also, apologies for the double post but you have to think about the team as a whole in this entire thought process. There is so much talent on the Chiefs roster, I think everyone can agree with that. It's no secret that the Chiefs can run the football and they do it very well, do they really need a quarterback who's going to be throwing the football 30 - 40 times a game? I don't believe they do. If I was a Chiefs fan, I would be semi-excited to hear about the possibilities of a guy like Alex Smith coming to the team. A guy who clearly has shown he can protect the football and let the talent around him work well. He also made quite a few deep throws when they asked him to. The running game has to be strong, as long as they have that then Smith is the quarterback for them.

 

No, they don't need a guy to throw the ball 40 times per game, but they do need a guy who is capable of winning games with his arm when teams stack the box and contain the run. Smith HAS done this, but as a rule he's not a guy who I would feel comfortable having in that situation. Most people use the excuse that Smith had a different OC every year for him sucking for most of his career, so if that's the case, is throwing him into yet another system really a safe gamble? I don't think that it is.

 

If the Chiefs pick up Alex Smith, if Bowe stays and they pick up another good receiving option WR or TE (better than or to compliment Moeaki), then their offense would be pretty solid. They have talent on the defensive side of the ball as well. I can see them making some noise if they get the QB situation together.

 

I don't think Alex Smith is really the guy to entice Bowe to stay in KC. Like I said a few times before: It's another Matt Cassel situation. Pushing all their chips in for a guy who's team was winning despite his lack of talent isn't something that I could see striking confidence in a decision to stay for Bowe. It's a classic "fool me once" scenario, IMO. I agree that getting the QB situation handled properly would give this team a 2012 Colts-like turnaround, but I don't think that getting Smith is the proper way to do that.

 

EJ Manuel will be dog shit in the NFL, so pass on him (even if he's still available in the 2nd round). Alex Smith. Dunno, if you can get him for cheap, I say what the hell, but the thought of bringing in a game manager that's only had one solid season doesn't seem too appetizing to me.

 

Best case scenario is to keep tanking and select Aaron Murray next year.

 

With the talent and depth at many positions that they have, I don't see Manuel as all that much of a gamble after the first round, even if he doesn't pan out, especially considering that we're getting an extra 3rd this year. If he does pan out, he has the size and skill set that is currently giving NFL DCs fits. I'd take a shot, even if I don't plan on starting him right away. We're in complete agreement on the second part of your post though. Smith doesn't seem all that appealing to me.

 

I would much rather take Alex Smith over taking a QB #1.

I'd much rather take a QB in the second and get a cheaper game manager or try to get Flynn than to pay out the yang for Alex Smith. I've just never thought that he was good, and one good playoff game against one of the league's worst defenses isn't going to change my mind.

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Alex Smith could totally work in KC, Bowe. What you guys can't do is rush to fix a problem when there are no surefire solutions in this year's draft.

I agree with you on not rushing to put a band-aid on a broken arm, but settling for Alex Smith for the price he'll probably be asking seems like exactly that to me.

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No, they don't need a guy to throw the ball 40 times per game, but they do need a guy who is capable of winning games with his arm when teams stack the box and contain the run. Smith HAS done this, but as a rule he's not a guy who I would feel comfortable having in that situation. Most people use the excuse that Smith had a different OC every year for him sucking for most of his career, so if that's the case, is throwing him into yet another system really a safe gamble? I don't think that it is.

 

Actually, I agree wit that completely and see the concern there. Andy Reid has been great for Quarterbacks in the past though, we all know that. That's why I think it would be a good pick up. You go out and grab a guy who has shown the ability the last two seasons to get the job done, and you now have a coach who has always been "quarterback friendly".

 

I will maintain that all the Chiefs need is a guy who won't turn the ball over and LOSE the game for them. That team is just so talented. Also, while you may not think Smith is the type of guy that could entice Bowe to stay, I think he could be. Bowe has been wide open so many times and has been over thrown or under thrown just as much. I think that Bowe is probably just wanting a guy who can get him the ball and let him do his job.

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I'd much rather take a QB in the second and get a cheaper game manager or try to get Flynn than to pay out the yang for Alex Smith. I've just never thought that he was good, and one good playoff game against one of the league's worst defenses isn't going to change my mind.

 

Not a terrible option. Flynn is basically a cheaper and less efficient (which isn't a huge knock being that Alex is one of the more efficient QBs in the league) version of Alex Smith.

[BoneKrusher+ 1,276]

anyone but Cassel

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anyone but Cassel

Tell that to Crennel and Haley. Tyler Palko and Brady Quinn ringing any bells?

[Turry 755]

Without a complete team, Alex Smith is just another version of cassel except not as bad. lol it's a shame that he is going to break the bank just because of two good years errr year and a half.

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Without a complete team, Alex Smith is just another version of cassel except not as bad. lol it's a shame that he is going to break the bank just because of two good years errr year and a half.

Even with a good team-and KC has a lot of talented players-he's just a slightly more consistent Cassel. Matt did the same things Smith did, minus the playoff win. I can't stand to see another Matt Cassel come to town. It will hurt my soul.

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This is an insult to Alex Smith. Cassel hasn't topped 60% completion since he left New England, nor has he topped 7 YPA. He also has only mustered a QB rating of 80+ once in his Chiefs career, and topped the TD:INT ratio of 1 just once.

 

I am not saying Alex Smith would be a savior, because I don't know what he will do without guru Jim Harbaugh to help him... But comparing him to Matt Cassel just isn't fair.

 

Compare guys like Tebow and Gabbert to Cassel first.

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This is an insult to Alex Smith. Cassel hasn't topped 60% completion since he left New England, nor has he topped 7 YPA. He also has only mustered a QB rating of 80+ once in his Chiefs career, and topped the TD:INT ratio of 1 just once.

 

I am not saying Alex Smith would be a savior, because I don't know what he will do without guru Jim Harbaugh to help him... But comparing him to Matt Cassel just isn't fair.

 

Compare guys like Tebow and Gabbert to Cassel first.

More like an insult to all Chiefs fans. Feeding us this garbage again would be the last straw. They might have blackouts if this happens. They go out and give the appearance that they want to get serious about winning by bringing in a whole new coaching staff, but in reality it's just cheaper than bringing in players. That's how I'll feel if they go out and get Alex Smith. It's just a way for Hunt to say, "Look fans. I did what you told me. New coach, new GM, new QB. Please come to the games again."

 

Besides, I called him Cassel 2.0, implying that he's a slightly improved, newer version of Cassel. That one season he played well in KC was eerily similar to Smith's one productive full season in SF. Call me crazy, but when the guys upside is barely better than that of the guy who almost got the castle stormed and heads taken, THAT'S NOT THE GUY TO BRING IN!

 

Look, bottom line: he's young enough to demand a 5-6 year contract. If we gamble and sign him to that kind of deal, even if his guaranteed money is paid in the first three years, by the time he busts out of town the young talented Chiefs squad will be aged and broken or ready to move on to a better team with a chance to win. Smith is not a risk I wanna see them take.

[Turry 755]

This is an insult to Alex Smith. Cassel hasn't topped 60% completion since he left New England, nor has he topped 7 YPA. He also has only mustered a QB rating of 80+ once in his Chiefs career, and topped the TD:INT ratio of 1 just once.

 

I am not saying Alex Smith would be a savior, because I don't know what he will do without guru Jim Harbaugh to help him... But comparing him to Matt Cassel just isn't fair.

 

Compare guys like Tebow and Gabbert to Cassel first.

Alex Smith has topped the 60% mark in his final one and a half season. Never had more than 20 Tds. Only once did he have a season where he had 7.0 yards per attempt or over. He is slighty better version of Cassel. Like I said the fact he is going to break the bank is lol worthy.

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Alex Smith has topped the 60% mark in his final one and a half season. Never had more than 20 Tds. Only once did he have a season where he had 7.0 yards per attempt or over. He is slighty better version of Cassel. Like I said the fact he is going to break the bank is lol worthy.

 

Who says he is going to break the bank? I am not even sure someone is going to want him for his current 8 million cap number if it means trading a pick for him as well. I wouldn't be expecting anything north of 10 million per. Which isn't exactly break the bank worthy when the market is trending towards great QBs making double that.

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Who says he is going to break the bank? I am not even sure someone is going to want him for his current 8 million cap number if it means trading a pick for him as well. I wouldn't be expecting anything north of 10 million per. Which isn't exactly break the bank worthy when the market is trending towards great QBs making double that.

Cassel got 10, Flynn got 10, and Smith took his team to the NFCCG last year. Then he played better before he got benched this year. I think he's gonna get north of 10. I'm saying somewhere in the neighborhood of 14ish, and that's way too much for him imo. Too many teams in dire need of a QB for him not to get paid. Cle, Jax, KC, Oak, just off the top of my head.

[Favre4Ever+ 4,476]

I dunno. Referencing deals made by backups who didn't work out isn't going to make his value higher.