Razor's 2013 QB Rankings

[Maverick 791]

romo doe

[RazorStar 4,025]

Sorry for the delay everyone. To answer your questions, Foles, Cassel and Fitzmagic are all shy of qualifying attempts which is why they aren't on the list yet. With 35 qualifying QB's at the moment, the top 12 in a category are elite, and the bottom 12 are terrible. The middle 11 in a category is a safe zone.

 

The Elite (4)
1. Peyton Manning
2. Tony Romo
3t. Drew Brees

Super Good (3)
3t. Philip Rivers (+1)
5t. Aaron Rodgers

Very Good (2)
5t. Matt Ryan
7. Russell Wilson (+1)
8. Jay Cutler (+4)
10. Matt Stafford

Top Ten (1)
15. Andy Dalton (+4)

Inconsistent or Unspectacular (0)
9. Jake Locker (-1)
11. Mike Vick (+2)
12. Sam Bradford (+3)
13. Ben Roeth (+4)
17. Terrelle Pryor (-10)
19. Colin Kaepernick

Hit or Miss (-1)
14. Cam Newton (+8)
16. Ryan Tannehill (-2)
18. Andrew Luck (-8)
20. Geno Smith (-5)
21. Brian Hoyer (+1)
22t. Matt Schaub (+4)

Problematic (-2)
22t. Robert Griffin (-5)

Dangerous (-3)
24t. E.J. Manuel
24t. Tom Brady (+1)

Awful (-4)
27. Eli Manning
29t. Carson Palmer (-1)
29t. Chad Henne (+1)

Terrible (-5)
26. Alex Smith (-7)

Can't Get Much Worse (-6)
28. Joe Flacco
31. Mike Glennon (NR)

Jimmy Clausen Tier (-8)
32. Brandon Weeden (-1)
33. Christian Ponder (-1)
34. Josh Freeman (-1)
35. Blaine Gabbert (-1)

[Bay 2,003]

Was wondering what was keeping Drew Brees from the elite tier. Whatever it was, guess he improved on it for now.

[RazorStar 4,025]

Just his INT rate, that usually takes poor performances from the guys ahead of him to get up there.

[RazorStar 4,025]

Week 7 is in the books! The Malaise is starting to settle, as we only have two big risers this week in Andrew Dalton and Mike Glennon. One big faller, and he got injured to add insult to that, Cutler is down. Sam Bradford is also down. Those two will however be fixed on the list. Brian Hoyer however will not. He and Blaine Gabbert no longer qualify for attempts so they'll no longer appear on the list. Nick Foles is also short of attempts, there are quite a few QB's sitting in that shy of attempts category, and that may shake things up greatly.

 

The Elite (4)
1. Peyton Manning
3. Matt Ryan (+2)
4. Aaron Rodgers (+1)

Super Good (3)
2. Philip Rivers (+1)
5. Drew Brees (-2)
6t. Tony Romo (-4)

Very Good (2)
6t. Russell Wilson (+1)
8. Andy Dalton (+7)
9t. Jake Locker
12. Matt Stafford (-2)

Top Ten (1)
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Inconsistent or Uspectular (0)
9t. Cam Newton (+5)
11. Mike Vick
15t. Jay Cutler (-7)
15t. Sam Bradford (-3)

Hit or Miss (-1)
13t. Ben Roeth
13t. Andrew Luck (+5)
17t. Colin Kaepernick (+2)
17t. Terrelle Pryor

Problematic (-2)
19. Ryan Tannehill (-3)
20. Robert Griffin (+2)
27t. Chad Henne (+2)

Dangerous (-3)
21. Matt Schaub (+1)
22t. Geno Smith (-2)

Awful (-4)
22t. Mike Glennon (+9)
25t. Joe Flacco (+3)
29. Eli Manning (-2)

Terrible (-5)
25t. Alex Smith (+1)
27t. Tom Brady (-3)

Can't Get Much Worse (-6)
24. E.J. Manuel
30. Carson Palmer (-1)
32t. Josh Freeman (+2)

Make a Wish Foundation Tier (-8)
31. Christian Ponder
32t. Brandon Weeden

[The Burfict Storm 39]

Where TDs are concerned, Schaub represents six other teams, right?

[56AceInDaPlace 110]

Good to see Locker in the very good spot. Im surprised at how well hes played. Bad playcalling must of made him look bad early in the season. And to think Fitz would be better LOL

[RazorStar 4,025]

4 others. >_>

[KempBolt 498]

Why is Rivers ranked #2, but on the 2nd tier behind #'s 3 & 4?

[RazorStar 4,025]

His INT rate is 13th best in the league, which means he doesn't get a point in that category. However, his cumulative score is higher than Ryan and Rodgers who are top 11 in every category.

[Glanvilles Grits 142]

Matt Ryan showing how good he is. No big names on the receiving core other than Gonzalez (Who is constantly viced at the line every fucking week) and imagine that, he's elevating his receivers game. Matt Ryan is the man, I wish he could play lights out in the post-season. Then again, I just wish we make the post season this year...

[CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025]

lolAlexSmith.

[Bay 2,003]

lolAlexSmith.

lolTomBrady

[CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025]

 

lolAlexSmith.

lolTomBrady

 

 

Touche. Being under Chad Henne is not a good look.

 

[Bay 2,003]

 

 

lolAlexSmith.

lolTomBrady

 

 

Touche. Being under Chad Henne is not a good look.

 

 

lmao

[Thanatos 2,847]

Razor is there any way to do an overall ranking that somehow incorporates the QB's running ability into this?

[RazorStar 4,025]

That'd be a bit of a challenge. I'm sure I could think of something, but I'm not sure how viable a measurement it would be. The nice thing about the way it is set up now is that all of the stat categorys have a strong correlation to winning. Meanwhile running numbers for QB's are vastly disparate. Peyton Manning can run 3 times for -3 yards, and Cam Newton can run 10 times for 100 yards, and they could both end up with wins.

 

I guess if I'm spitballing here, a successful QB run would yield either a first down or a touchdown. Naturally, excluding kneeldowns from that. I'm sure there would be some kind of basis to work with. I'm just not sure how to combine them is all.

[Thanatos 2,847]

Was just wondering, its awesome that you do this regardless. It just seems to hurt a few QBs, namely mine, when you get credit for a passing TD, but not a rushing TD.

 

So if he drives 80 yards, but ends it by running it in, it counts less than if he throws it in.

 

It would have to be effective runs, so any run for first downs or touchdowns seems to be the way to go.

[RazorStar 4,025]

I suppose successful runs could also count non first down runs if the run netted enough positive yardage. Like turning a first and ten into a second and two, or a 2nd and 15 into a 3rd and 3 or something like that. hmmm. May be too much work for that though. I'll gather up some preliminary data and see what I get.

[RazorStar 4,025]

Here they are folks, the dirty and raw numbers for week 8. We saw some great performances from some young QB's, and what was once a tight hold on first place is separated by a single point as Aaron Rodgers is encroaching on the title of best QB once again.

 

Rank - QB - Comp% - TD% - INT% - YPA - Change
1. Peyton Manning [2/1/10/2]
2. Aaron Rodgers [5/5/5/1] (+2)
3. Drew Brees [3/2/11/4] (+2)
4. Philip Rivers [1/6/14/5] (-2)
5t. Russell Wilson [12/3/8/6] (+1)
5t. Tony Romo [7/4/7/11] (+1)

7. Andy Dalton [8/8/20/7] (+1)
8. Cam Newton [10/7/19/9] (+1)
9. Jake Locker [15/11/1/20]
10. Matt Stafford [18/12/8/10] (+2)
11. Matt Ryan [4/13/18/16] (-8)
12. Andrew Luck [14/16/3/21] (+1)
13. Sam Bradford [17/9/4/28] (+2)
14. Jay Cutler [9/10/27/14] (+1)

15t. Mike Vick [32/17/16/3] (-4)
15t. Ben Roeth [6/27/22/13] (-2)
17. Colin Kaepernick [28/14/21/8]

18. Alex Smith [24/26/2/30] (+7)
19t. Terrelle Pryor [13/24/31/15] (-2)
19t. Matt Schaub [11/19/29/24] (+2)
21t. Ryan Tannehill [22/15/28/22] (-2)
21t. Mike Glennon [26/22/6/33] (+1)
23. Robert Griffin [25/20/25/19] (-3)
24t. Joe Flacco [21/28/24/17] (+1)
24t. Carson Palmer [16/18/33/23] (+6)
26. Thad Lewis [20/30/12/29] (NR)
27. E.J. Manuel [29/21/15/27] (-3)
28t. Geno Smith [23/25/34/12] (-6)
28t. Chad Henne [19/33/17/25] (-1)

30t. Eli Manning [30/23/32/18] (-1)
30t. Tom Brady [30/29/13/31] (-3)
32. Christian Ponder [27/32/30/26] (-1)
33. Brandon Weeden [33/31/26/32] (-1)
34. Josh Freeman [34/34/23/34] (-2)

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1. Aaron Rodgers (+1)
2. Peyton Manning (-1)
3. Nick Foles (NR)
4. Drew Brees (-1)
5. Philip Rivers (-1)
6. Tony Romo (-1)
7. Russell Wilson (-2)

8. Matt Stafford (+2)
9. Cam Newton (-1)
10t. Andy Dalton (-3)
10t. Jake Locker (-1)
12. Ben Roeth (+3)
13. Matt Ryan (-2)
14t. Jay Cutler
14t. Sam Bradford (-1)
16. Andrew Luck (-4)

17. Colin Kaepernick
18. Mike Vick (-3)
19. Mike Glennon (+2)

20. Tom Brady (+10)
21. Robert Griffin (+2)
22. Alex Smith (-4)
23t. Ryan Tannehill (-2)
23t. Matt Schaub (-4)
25t. Joe Flacco (-1)
25t. Thad Lewis (+1)
27t. Carson Palmer (-3)
27t. Chad Henne (+1)
27t. E.J. Manuel
30. Terrelle Pryor (-11)

31. Geno Smith (-3)
32. Eli Manning (-2)
33. Christian Ponder (-1)
34t. Brandon Weeden (-1)
34t. Josh Freeman

 

Too lazy for big writeups after my original post just got eaten... Just gonna leave it at this.

[CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025]

Chad Henne no longer better than Tom Brady.

 

Maybe he isn't the QB of the future.

 

[RazorStar 4,025]

Week 10 s complete, and we are out of winless teams! Congrats to the Titans and Dolphins for preventing another 2008 Lions. Coming to our QB rankings Case Keenum is a new addition to our list, and as the season goes on, this list will only grow larger. Keenum currently sits in the top ten, but how long will that last when the team around him collapses? Foles has still not thrown an INT yet, but that has to change soon... right? Anyway, here are the numbers.

 

Elite (4)
1. Nick Foles (+2)
2. Peyton Manning
3. Aaron Rodgers (-2)
4. Drew Brees

 

Super Good (3)
5. Philip Rivers
6. Russell Wilson (+1)
7. Tony Romo (-1)

9. Matt Stafford (-1)

 

Very Good (2)

12t. Cam Newton (-3)

 

Top Ten (1)
8. Case Keenum (NR)
10. Matt Ryan (+3)

 

Inconsistent or Unspectacular (0)
11. Sam Bradford (+3)
12t. Ben Roeth
14. Jay Cutler

16. Jake Locker (-6)
17t. Robert Griffin (+4)

 

Hit Or Miss (-1)
15. Andy Dalton (-5)
19. Mike Vick (-1)
20. Colin Kaepernick (-3)
21. Mike Glennon (-2)

 

Dangerous (-2)
17t. Andrew Luck (-1)
23. Ryan Tannehill

26t. Carson Palmer (+1)

 

Problematic (-3)
22. Tom Brady (-2)
24. Alex Smith (-2)
26t. Thad Lewis (-1)

 

Weaksauce (-4)

28t. Chad Henne (-1)

 

Allen Iverson in Practice (-5)

25. Matt Schaub (-2)

 

Overdose on Suck Tier (-6)
28t. Christian Ponder (+5)
30t. Geno Smith (+1)
30t. E.J. Manuel (-3)
33. Eli Manning (-1)
34. Terrelle Pryor (-4)

35t. Josh Freeman (-1) (If only the Giants could get INTs)

 

Benny Sapp would probably pick these guys off (-8)

32. Joe Flacco (-7)
35t. Brandon Weeden (-1)

Edited November 12, 2013 by BringBackTebow

[Thanatos 2,847]

Benny Sapp would probably pick these guys off (-8)

 

LOL.

Edited November 12, 2013 by Thanatos19

[Sarge+ 3,436]

lolJoeFlacco.

 

Ngata and Bware, where you at?