Game of Thrones Season 7

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I don't know about GOAT. If we're talking about drama, I can't put GoT on the uppermost tier just yet (Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire), but that depends on how the endgame shapes out. Right now I'd say it's akin to something like Mad Men.

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I don't know about GOAT. If we're talking about drama, I can't put GoT on the uppermost tier just yet (Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire), but that depends on how the endgame shapes out. Right now I'd say it's akin to something like Mad Men.

Those shows never reached the cinematic quality of Game of Thrones though. I think most people would agree if all four were running at the same time, GoT would still be on top. Also, Game of Thrones you know when those climactic battles are gonna be and its like an event. Those shows didn't really have that, you never saw what was coming but with GoT you know beforehand.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Sparty

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I have no idea what you mean by "cinematic quality." Just because The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, and The Wire never had spectacular battle scenes with eight-figure budgets they are inferior shows? I don't buy that logic at all.

[Thanatos 2,847]

Tyrion is making quite a few tactical errors here. He is letting his emotions- dad never wanted him to have Casterly Rock- overrule his logic. Or is he?

 

New favorite theory: Tyrion and Jaime are working together to take down both Daenarys and Cersei.

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I'd definitely put GoT over anything I've personally watched -- so it's my GOAT. And that doesn't mean that I like Breaking bad or any other show less.

 

It's just the level of mastery that Thrones exhibits can't be matched (imo).

 

And that's an interesting theory too. Not sure I buy that one though. I think he (Tyrion) is just playing it too straightforward, like anyone else would. He's not really being that clever or smart.

[Sparty 110]

I have no idea what you mean by "cinematic quality." Just because The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, and The Wire never had spectacular battle scenes with eight-figure budgets they are inferior shows? I don't buy that logic at all.

Sadly, yeah. Its like comparing apples to oranges, both genres are entirely different. The Wire, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, etc can't really be compared to GoT because GoT has that EVENT feel to it. Crime dramas don't have that. You can do so much more in a fantastical series than in a crime drama, and GoT gets put above them cause they excel in all that is different.

[seanbrock 1,684]

Tyrion just wanted to end the war as quickly as possible to avoid bloodshed. Tyco Nastorious said it pretty well, how will wooden ships fair against fire breathing dragons? Harrenhal is still in ruins from Dragons. Dany basically conquered Slavers Bay with her dragons before they were fully grown. This is not going to be close. Dany is going to destroy the Lannister army.

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If it was going to be that easy, why tell the story at all though.

[seanbrock 1,684]

How can you not tell it?

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HBO was hacked and scripts for GoT leaked... if anyone posts that crap here I'm gonna ban you instantly. Lol

 

 

 

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hbo-hack-insiders-fear-leaked-emails-as-probe-widens-1025827

 

On July 27, Richard Plepler's worst corporate nightmare unfolded. The HBO CEO learned that his company's network had been breached by an apparently coordinated cyberattack that experts explained could expose a staggering 1.5 terabytes of data. That would be roughly seven times the size of the epic 2014 hack of Sony Pictures.

 

The attack was sophisticated, insiders tell The Hollywood Reporter, targeting specific content and data housed in different locations, suggesting multiple points of entry. Even more chilling, there was no ransom demand, say sources, leaving the motive in question and raising the specter that video footage, internal documents or even email correspondence could be leaked.

 

Two days later, HBO sent an alarming email on a Saturday to its 2,500-plus employees, notifying them that the company had been hit, followed by a second email warning staff not to open suspicious emails. On July 30, hackers going by the name of little.finger66 boasted to the media about pulling off "the greatest leak of cyber space era" [sic]. As a teaser, they provided a link to a script for an Aug. 6 episode of Game of Thrones and promised much more. At the same time, unaired episodes of Ballers and Room 104 began surfacing online.

 

To put in context the 1.5 terabytes — or 1,500 gigabytes — claim, in the Sony case, about 200 gigabytes of data was released online, a damaging deluge that brought the studio to its knees and led to the ouster of then co-chair Amy Pascal.

 

"A traditional business-grade DSL link would take about two weeks at full blast to exfiltrate that much data," says Farsight Security CEO Paul Vixie, noting that a finished Blu-ray is about 30 gigabytes. "If not for video and sound, a corporation the size of HBO might fit [entirely] in a terabyte, including all the email and spreadsheets ever written or stored."

 

Adds Ajay Arora, CEO of security firm Vera, "The entire Library of Congress is estimated to contain 10 terabytes of print content. As such, it's hard to believe that video and/or audio are not part of what was stolen. It will be interesting — and terrifying to HBO and their parent, Time Warner — to see what comes out."

 

Sources say HBO is working with the FBI and cybersecurity firm Mandiant, which led the forensic investigation on the Sony hack (ironically, Mandiant also was targeted by hackers around the same time as the HBO breach). The FBI and Mandiant declined comment, and HBO wouldn't elaborate beyond a statement acknowledging the hack.

 

At press time, it was unclear what exactly the HBO attackers had taken, even to those investigating. In a July 31 email to staff, Plepler characterized the stolen items as "proprietary information, including some of our programming." Insiders say hackers pilfered a combination of media-rich data and text. Though full or partial episodes of Game of Thrones — the crown jewel of the HBO lineup — would be problematic, it's the prospect of stolen text that is far more alarming.

 

"At 1.5 terabytes, it could be a whole block of TV, or worse, it could be emails, financial documents, employee or customer information," says Erik Rasmussen, a former deputy prosecuting attorney and special agent with the Secret Service who now works at the cybersecurity firm Kroll. "The fact that you have law enforcement and a [cybersecurity] firm involved most likely means this will be a very large incident for HBO."

 

Hollywood has been under siege from cyber criminals. In the past year, at least six studios and talent agencies have been hit with extortion attempts, including Netflix, UTA and WME-IMG. Netflix balked at ransom demands, and the collective known as TheDarkOverlord released 10 episodes of Orange Is the New Black ahead of its June debut.

 

Privately, security experts say the HBO hack appears to be far more vicious. One insider calls it "nefarious" because it was targeted to specific content and data (as with Sony) and not simply a trawling sweep (as was the case with the Orange Is the New Black heist).

 

And the HBO hack comes at a delicate time for Time Warner. In October, AT&T agreed to buy the company for $85 billion. It's no secret that HBO is the star performer of the portfolio, so a sprawling hack could impact the ultimate sale price.

 

"It's fair to draw parallels to the Yahoo hack in this case," says Hemanshu Nigam, a former federal prosecutor of online crime and onetime chief security officer of News Corp. In that case, at least 500 million customer accounts were compromised, leading Verizon to extract a $350 million discount in its $4.5 billion purchase of the online giant.

 

HBO is taking a proactive approach. Plepler called for employees to be notified even before news of the hack broke. "It was one of the best examples of how to react to a crisis and communicate to your employees," says Nigam. "I've never seen it happen this fast." (With Sony, it took then-chairman Michael Lynton 12 days to email employees about the status, but that’s because there was no clarity about the nature of the attack until then, and the studio was in largely unchartered waters at the time.)

 

Still, the scope of the breach has many in Hollywood once again holding their collective breath. Says Rasmussen, "The question now is what do they have, who did this, and what was the motive?"

Edited August 3, 2017 by Vin

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Rasmussen is beyond stupid to not figure out it was because HBO threatened the online pirating community. DON'T FUCK WITH THE ONLINE PIRATE COMMUNITY, lol. And 1.5 TB is a shit ton. They're lucky more didn't get leaked.

Edited August 3, 2017 by Sparty

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I don't know about GOAT. If we're talking about drama, I can't put GoT on the uppermost tier just yet (Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire), but that depends on how the endgame shapes out. Right now I'd say it's akin to something like Mad Men.

Never seen Madmen but I'd definitely put this show up there with the Sopranos, Breaking Bad, and the Wire.

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[seanbrock 1,684]

So uh...I have seen the leaked episode. It was so awesome.

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You're the worst kind of person.

[seanbrock 1,684]

Sorry if saying it was awesome was too much of a spoiler for you haha

[Barracuda 629]

Euron is so badass. Need more Hound. I haven't rewatched any of season 6 but does it seem to anyone else that Bran has just completely changed? He's still terrible as always, but now he's terrible and acting to cool for school.

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Euron is so badass. Need more Hound. I haven't rewatched any of season 6 but does it seem to anyone else that Bran has just completely changed? He's still terrible as always, but now he's terrible and acting to cool for school.

I think he's probably the least talented actor on the show... but to be fair he does know everything and can see everything that ever happened. Having that sheer volume of information coursing through you literally all the time would probably make potatoes of the best of us.

[Sparty 110]

That episode did NOT feel like the shortest in the best way possible.

[Barracuda 629]

I guess about that knowing everything ever bologna. Also, Jamie lost all the few points he had with me after he did nothing once Olenna flat out told him she killed Joffrey. He couldn't let her go out easy after that. Stab her in the gut or something dude, gee whiz.

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I guess about that knowing everything ever bologna. Also, Jamie lost all the few points he had with me after he did nothing once Olenna flat out told him she killed Joffrey. He couldn't let her go out easy after that. Stab her in the gut or something dude, gee whiz.

Perhaps the reaction had something to do with the guilt he felt after letting Tyrion go and the subsequent loss of his father. He now has confirmation that it was a witch-hunt and Tyrion was innocent.

[seanbrock 1,684]

I guess about that knowing everything ever bologna. Also, Jamie lost all the few points he had with me after he did nothing once Olenna flat out told him she killed Joffrey. He couldn't let her go out easy after that. Stab her in the gut or something dude, gee whiz.

Jaimie feels no connection to his kids though. It's something that's made pretty clear in the books. They're biologically his but they've never been his. My only complaint about the season so far is they haven't done much to show the rift that's developing between him and Cersei. At the end of season 6 when he rode into Kings Landing to discover she blew up the Sept of Baelor the reaction of his actor looked like there would be more there for this season.

 

If you think about it though when they let him through the gates he could have taken The Iron Throne from Cersei. If he did a lot of peoples lives would have been saved.

Edited August 6, 2017 by seanbrock

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My only complaint about the season so far is they haven't done much to show the rift that's developing between him and Cersei. At the end of season 6 when he rode into Kings Landing to discover she blew up the Sept of Baelor the reaction of his actor looked like there would be more there for this season.

 

I agree, though maybe he's bottling it up? I mean, Olenna's confession might give him a swell of loyalty toward Tyrion. I would not be surprised if this season ends with him killing Cersei. Queenslayer!

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Have they done a bad job at showing that rift ? I dunno. That last sex scene seemed off in ways and I think Jamie saw / felt that. And don't forget that he disagreed with and talked Cersei out of much crueler deaths for Olenna. He clearly doesn't agree with the way she is ruling. To your point, I do think the books will be more obvious about it for sure, but the show has to stay dramatic. Slow build to him fully turning / the reveal.

 

Edit: oh and what Olenna said about Cersei, you could tell it struck him. You could tell that he knew it to be true, or at least somewhat true.

 

Edit: oh and Jamie is clearly in disagreement in pretty much every scene that involves Euron. He's clearly not a fan.

 

So yeah, I think they're doing a fine job of showing that rift between the two.

Edited August 6, 2017 by Olenna4Ever

[Barracuda 629]

Jaimie feels no connection to his kids though. It's something that's made pretty clear in the books. They're biologically his but they've never been his. My only complaint about the season so far is they haven't done much to show the rift that's developing between him and Cersei. At the end of season 6 when he rode into Kings Landing to discover she blew up the Sept of Baelor the reaction of his actor looked like there would be more there for this season.

 

If you think about it though when they let him through the gates he could have taken The Iron Throne from Cersei. If he did a lot of peoples lives would have been saved.

Don't get that from the show. Never read the books. He's the one that went to Cersei wanting to talk about Tommen. Everything that happened after their daughter was killed don't know to spell her name so won't try. Even if he feels no connection to the kids, he does feel something for his sister and how their deaths hurt her. I just think he'd have something to say to Olenna about that instead of just walking away.

 

Jamie is realizing that everyone else is right about his sister but I think he'll be going down with her no pun intended until the end in some weird love story.