BJORN 679 Posted March 20, 2016 Erm well now any chance I can take a team? Wouldn't be a draft with out me.... You can take the Redskins 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangy 19 Posted March 20, 2016 You can take the Redskins Thanks Born. If you're all cool with that? Then I'm in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014 Posted March 21, 2016 Hey, man, someone has to match the incompetence of the dredges of the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butta54 371 Posted March 21, 2016 I really like Fart's pick, the Saints letting go the long-time Colston...and trading Kenny Stills....and trading Jimmy G.....the receiving corps is very depleted. The top wideout at a bargain in the draft and a strong need. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted March 21, 2016 Erm well now any chance I can take a team? Wouldn't be a draft with out me.... Well it's already too late to trade 3/4s of your draft picks to get Buckner... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJORN 679 Posted March 21, 2016 Well it's already too late to trade 3/4s of your draft picks to get Buckner... Says who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025 Posted March 21, 2016 Like the Lawson pick, Dmac. I was thinking about him for Dolphins too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted March 21, 2016 Vin and Razor taking fucking Ogbah and Floyd then Campin wipes the floor with Spence at #19. Beat that ass Camp 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butta54 371 Posted March 21, 2016 Both of them are better than Spence 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted March 21, 2016 Butta what you smoking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butta54 371 Posted March 21, 2016 Spence is trash in the run game. Can barely hold his ground, and he lacks the length to dominate on the edge in the league. Floyd is 10x more explosive and 5x more flexible where as Spence is a little stiff. Ogbah also has incredible size and better hand technique than Spence. If you are talking about getting after the QB then Ogbah beats out Spence, not to mention Ogbah has better run stopping ability which he will only get better at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Ogbah from what I saw gets absolutely demolished when trying to rush the passer. Was getting bullied by some pretty mediocre competition at tackle. Also had trouble getting off blockers to get the ball-carrier. In general didn't seem like a hustle player on tape. Floyd just never stood out in the slightest. Dude looked like he was going half the speed of the rest of the guys on the field. Didn't have the explosiveness you're talking about when I watched him. Couldn't get past blockers. Seemed very average in the run game as well. Even though Spence played against easier competition he absolutely shredded on his way to the quarterback. Consistently broke double teams and sprinted the QB down. In the run game I'd say he's not as big of an anchor as Ogbah but he's much more likely to make a play on the ball carrier. The only thing dragging Spence down IMO is his off the field issues. On the field he's probably the best pure pass rusher of the draft. Edited March 21, 2016 by Chernobyl426 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butta54 371 Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) You talking about a guy that had a sack in almost every game this year in Ogbah. Watch him against Baylor or Oklahoma. He is raw and needs to develop more, but has way more tools than Spence. And not sure what you are watching on Floyd that you see him moving half-speed. Watch him against Auburn. I gave him the highest rating in his get-off. He is average in the run game, but this is a guy who has a very light frame and will get bigger. Not to mention he played half the time as a stand up LB...that is athleticism and talent. Spence I have to disagree. I seen double teams put him 10yds down the field and that's not even D-1 competition. And his pass rush is mostly about speed. his body lean and flexibility is average. He has long arms, but being 6'2 isn't going to be easy getting around the edge in the league. Edited March 21, 2016 by butta54 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted March 21, 2016 Spence would be great as a 3-4 OLB. He is pretty bad at setting the edge, and is garbage against the run, but I agree with Chern about his pass rushing ability. IDK about best pure rusher, but I certainly think he's better then Ogbah,.. Like the Lawson pick, Dmac. I was thinking about him for Dolphins too He was the default pick after ATL decided to be an asshole and grab Ragland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted March 21, 2016 Spence would be great as a 3-4 OLB. He is pretty bad at setting the edge, and is garbage against the run, but I agree with Chern about his pass rushing ability. IDK about best pure rusher, but I certainly think he's better then Ogbah,.. He was the default pick after ATL decided to be an asshole and grab Ragland I think the only guy with an argument as a better pure pass rusher is Nkemdiche and he's not as consistent as Spence. Talent-wise I'd probably say Nkemdiche is better but he just doesn't show it as well. Ogbah probably would do best packing on weight and transitioning to 3-4 DE. He's not quick enough to get around the edge and actually have an impact trying to get to the QB on a consistent basis. One sack every game is a very misleading stat. It's not about what he does once a game, it's about what he does play to play. He's a decent run-stuffer and I think that's what he needs to build his game around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butta54 371 Posted March 21, 2016 Idk about that. I think what you see from Spence on tape is very misleading. Ogbah is absolutely better as a 4-3 DE, his get-off is inconsistent, but he flashed great explosion which usually means his slower get off is something to do with scheme. But when he has had a chance to pin his ears back and go he has shown the speed to get around the corner. Especially if he is a LE going against the slower RTs of the league. On top of that he ran a 4.63 which probably confirms what I suspected about scheme dictating him not over-penetrating. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted March 21, 2016 Idk about that. I think what you see from Spence on tape is very misleading. Ogbah is absolutely better as a 4-3 DE, his get-off is inconsistent, but he flashed great explosion which usually means his slower get off is something to do with scheme. But when he has had a chance to pin his ears back and go he has shown the speed to get around the corner. Especially if he is a LE going against the slower RTs of the league. On top of that he ran a 4.63 which probably confirms what I suspected about scheme dictating him not over-penetrating. Fair enough. He seemed to be hesitant about going after the QB. He seemed to get bullied by the LTs he went up against in the tape I watched though. Gets stood up too easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted March 21, 2016 Eagles are looking to move up in the draft to like... NOW! If whoever is picking or about to pick would be interested, hit me up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted March 22, 2016 So far that Ragland pick is looking mighty fine 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025 Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Spence would be great as a 3-4 OLB. He is pretty bad at setting the edge, and is garbage against the run, but I agree with Chern about his pass rushing ability. IDK about best pure rusher, but I certainly think he's better then Ogbah,.. He was the default pick after ATL decided to be an asshole and grab Ragland Yup, drafted him for Rex's 3-4 Bills and I almost took Ragland before Charles did instead of Rankins as well. Ragland and Decker were in play on that pick. Edited March 22, 2016 by CampinWithShaddyWarbucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted March 22, 2016 He was the default pick after ATL decided to be an asshole and grab Ragland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butta54 371 Posted March 22, 2016 Anthony Barr (Sam) Eric Kendricks (Mike) Darron Lee (Will) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Bengals trade: #24 Eagles trade: #77 #79 #109 #141 #201 Edited March 22, 2016 by Chernobyl426 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted March 22, 2016 comfirmed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC 331 Posted March 22, 2016 Trade: BC -> Butta55 receive: #25 overall receiver: #26 overall + Seattle 5th round compensatory pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
