Piggly Wiggly 960 Posted January 13, 2013 You can't be serious. The fucking Spygate card? Steeler fans can't help but whip out the Spygate card. Pats have been mere minutes from winning two Super Bowls since 2007. The argument that the Pats have won their Super Bowls only because of Spygate is absurdly pathetic. If the Pats fell off the face of the fucking Earth right after the Week 1 game against the Jets in '07, maybe you'd have a legitimate argument. But you're just talking out of your ass like every other Steelers fan that can't get over 2001 and 2004, Zack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014 Posted January 13, 2013 Educate yourselves, fools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piggly Wiggly 960 Posted January 13, 2013 Did that guy publish a book on 9/11 conspiracy theories, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014 Posted January 13, 2013 It's hilarious that Patriots fans say only Steelers fans are the ones that believe Spygate was a decided advantage when there's a book with public information and source material. The only people that disregard Spygate are Patriots fans or Brady cock gobblers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted January 13, 2013 Completely disagree with Zack on this one. I disregard Spygate and I am a fan of one of the teams the Patriots played and beat during that stretch, in one of the best Superbowls I've seen, even though we narrowly came out on the losing end. Read up on why Belichek did it- he was bringing attention to a loophole in the rules that allowed teams to do something potentially harmful, (the Jets were using it against him), and doing so so transparently that the NFL couldn't help but get rid of the loophole. I would be one of the first to point the finger, given that they would have stolen a SB from Carolina, but that is simply not the case. The Patriots were just a good team. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piggly Wiggly 960 Posted January 13, 2013 It's hilarious that Patriots fans say only Steelers fans are the ones that believe Spygate was a decided advantage when there's a book with public information and source material. The only people that disregard Spygate are Patriots fans or Brady cock gobblers. The only people that I see STILL crying over Spygate are anti-Patriot fans. I still haven't seen any evidence that the Pats cheated in their Super Bowls. And when I ask someone (who's whining about Spygate), to show any such proof where the Pats cheated in any SB, the question is dodged. Every single time. But yeah, let's ''educate ourselves'' with a book done by some obsolete author that has about as much credibility as some schmuck at Bleacher Report! Brilliant! You have it all figured out, Zack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted January 13, 2013 I disregard Spygate and I am a fan of one of the teams the Patriots played and beat during that stretch Me as well 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vin+ 3,121 Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Edited January 13, 2013 by Vin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bay 2,003 Posted January 13, 2013 Can I change now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56AceInDaPlace 110 Posted January 13, 2013 Peyton Manning just seems to have bad luck in the postseason. After yesterdays game, i CANNOT put that on Manning. If Rahim Moore didnt fuck up that last TD, Holliday and Manning would be the talk this morning. Manning played well to win the game, in the end his defense is what cost them the game. As for Brady, that man is Mr. Cool under pressure. Hes clutch when it matters most of the time. I dont hate Brady, Brady is one of the best ever. Him or Big Ben are the two QB's I would want in the playoffs no doubt. Brady isnt going to get it done every year, it was fate that lost him two games to the Giants. No other way to explain the two luckiest but nice catches in Super Bowl history. Tyrees catch and then Manninghams catch. Brady had nothing to do with those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted January 13, 2013 Why does Manning have to get the blame or the credit ? Could it be that the Ravens just outplayed them ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56AceInDaPlace 110 Posted January 13, 2013 Why does Manning have to get the blame or the credit ? Could it be that the Ravens just outplayed them ? Because you guys got lucky. Dont get me wrong, luck is part of the game. There were bad calls on both sides but the Rahim Moore fuckup takes the cake. Ravens hung in there and it seems fate had your teams back yesterday. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted January 13, 2013 Because you guys got lucky. Dont get me wrong, luck is part of the game. There were bad calls on both sides but the Rahim Moore fuckup takes the cake. Ravens hung in there and it seems fate had your teams back yesterday. I guess us burning Champ all game was lucky. I guess they had no luck with two kick returns for TD's against the best ST unit in the last 20 years. Get that luck shit out of here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56AceInDaPlace 110 Posted January 13, 2013 I guess us burning Champ all game was lucky. I guess they had no luck with two kick returns for TD's against the best ST unit in the last 20 years. Get that luck shit out of here. Lol ignoring the ONE part that was lucky. So Rahim Moore fucking up wasnt lucky on your guys part? Denial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted January 13, 2013 Lol ignoring the ONE part that was lucky. So Rahim Moore fucking up wasnt lucky on your guys part? Denial. Then by that logic every time a defender makes a mistake it is luck. Yeah then in just about every game that is not a 0-0 game the winning team gets lucky because a defender somewhere along the way made a mistake. Good to know. That is seriously one of the dumbest things I have seen you post and that says something. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vin+ 3,121 Posted January 13, 2013 Why does Manning have to get the blame or the credit ? Could it be that the Ravens just outplayed them ? Because that's not how football works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56AceInDaPlace 110 Posted January 14, 2013 Then by that logic every time a defender makes a mistake it is luck. Yeah then in just about every game that is not a 0-0 game the winning team gets lucky because a defender somewhere along the way made a mistake. Good to know. That is seriously one of the dumbest things I have seen you post and that says something. If it is beyond your teams control, how is it not luck? Its not stupid, if you don't believe in luck then that's you. It was called a miracle for a reason, miracles are made by luck. No other way to explain it. Look im not bashing your team, you guys won. But to say you guys didn't get lucky IS STUPID. You did. Point blank. But luck is part of the game, it happens. You guys benefitted from it while playing a good game. I never said you didn't play a good game, I just said you guys got lucky. Which is true. And yes it is luck when a defender fucks up. Lucky for you guys because you benefit from it when your team did nothing to cause it. That's what I mean. Congrats you won but like I said, if they call it a miracle that it happened, its luck. Torrey Smith played a hell of a game, made Madden type catches on Bailey for those touchdowns. Hes stepping up big time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted January 14, 2013 If it is beyond your teams control, how is it not luck? Its not stupid, if you don't believe in luck then that's you. It was called a miracle for a reason, miracles are made by luck. No other way to explain it. Look im not bashing your team, you guys won. But to say you guys didn't get lucky IS STUPID. You did. Point blank. But luck is part of the game, it happens. You guys benefitted from it while playing a good game. I never said you didn't play a good game, I just said you guys got lucky. Which is true. And yes it is luck when a defender fucks up. Lucky for you guys because you benefit from it when your team did nothing to cause it. That's what I mean. Congrats you won but like I said, if they call it a miracle that it happened, its luck. Torrey Smith played a hell of a game, made Madden type catches on Bailey for those touchdowns. Hes stepping up big time. You really do not see the inherent flaw with that statement ? So then by your estimation the Patriots got lucky too. That is just....well that is just stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funnygunny 521 Posted January 14, 2013 I don't believe in luck. If a player fucks up, its because of outside pressure, mental mistakes, misjudgement etc. etc. If the safety/corner was in the same situation in practice, and you take away the receiver (the main variable), you really think he's gonna fuck up? lmao. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56AceInDaPlace 110 Posted January 14, 2013 You really do not see the inherent flaw with that statement ? So then by your estimation the Patriots got lucky too. That is just....well that is just stupid. Teams get lucky all the time. Luck is part of the game, EVERY GAME. I guess you don't believe in luck but I already made the valid point it was called a miracle play. Miracle = luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted January 14, 2013 Teams get lucky all the time. Luck is part of the game, EVERY GAME. I guess you don't believe in luck but I already made the valid point it was called a miracle play. Miracle = luck. You have made no valid points lol. Do you hear what you are saying dude. Who called it a miracle play ? I can tell you no Raven or Bronco has called it that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56AceInDaPlace 110 Posted January 14, 2013 You have made no valid points lol. Do you hear what you are saying dude. Who called it a miracle play ? I can tell you no Raven or Bronco has called it that. Fans, ( just because its not on here doesn't mean it isn't out there ) and the announcer. Not to mention that kind of play rarely works. Theres a reason it was a shocking play. 99/100 times that doesn't work. That's why its considered luck as well. Your just downplaying the fact u don't believe it was luck. Whatever, we disagree lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted January 14, 2013 proof that there is luck in football: that said, a defender blowing coverage isn't luck, it's just a bad play by the defense, just because the Ravens benefited from a bad play by the Safety doesn't mean they got lucky, Denver hadn't been covering the deep ball well all game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted January 15, 2013 Fans, ( just because its not on here doesn't mean it isn't out there ) and the announcer. Not to mention that kind of play rarely works. Theres a reason it was a shocking play. 99/100 times that doesn't work. That's why its considered luck as well. Your just downplaying the fact u don't believe it was luck. Whatever, we disagree lol. Ooooooohhhhh Dan Dierdorf said it....it must be true lol. If anything that should mean you take it for the opposite of what he said. Dan Dierdorf is the same guy that says Phillip Rivers is one of the elite in the league. Not a great reference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omerta+ 1,206 Posted January 15, 2013 that said, a defender blowing coverage isn't luck, it's just a bad play by the defense, just because the Ravens benefited from a bad play by the Safety doesn't mean they got lucky, Denver hadn't been covering the deep ball well all game Please, keep preachin to the man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
