oochymp 2,393 Posted August 9, 2014 Totally agree with you here. Today's NFL is rough, especially at the quarterback position. They want rookies to be like Russell Wilson out of the gate, but it usually never works out that way. people also like to forget that generally when QBs excel out of the gate they usually join a team that gives them a pretty good supporting cast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted August 9, 2014 People can shit on Garop for beating up 3rd stringers; but watching him, he did good. Dude was putting the ball on the money majority of the time. Plus he had that beautiful one to Tyms. Put it right in the basket over the top of a defensive back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025 Posted August 9, 2014 Cut-up of his first game action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xMGl3KKmak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted August 9, 2014 So you're saying that if we can knock out Brady and Mallett we'll have a chance to split the series with New England? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted August 9, 2014 So you're saying that if we can knock out Brady and Mallett we'll have a chance to split the series with New England? considering ya'll didn't even beat the Patriots with Matt Cassel under center ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piggly Wiggly 960 Posted August 11, 2014 Settle down here folks, Jimbo is still dog shit. Brian Tyms/Redskins useless scrubs made him look a lot better than he actually is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted August 11, 2014 considering ya'll didn't even beat the Patriots with Matt Cassel under center ... That's why I'm saying we'd need the third stringer to be playing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllYouNeedIsLovie 377 Posted August 16, 2014 Threw another 2 TD's last night. Fail thread is fail. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucman 891 Posted August 17, 2014 Threw another 2 TD's last night. Fail thread is fail. Pot meets kettle. "Freeman is worth a 1st rounder" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piggly Wiggly 960 Posted August 18, 2014 Pot meets kettle. "Freeman is worth a 1st rounder" Exactly. And no, I'm not impressed that Jimmy is doing well against practice squad/soon-to-be-cut trash. When he's lighting up someone other than the likes of Curtis Marsh, let me know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Exactly. And no, I'm not impressed that Jimmy is doing well against practice squad/soon-to-be-cut trash. When he's lighting up someone other than the likes of Curtis Marsh, let me know. You can't really say that given that you judged him based on his performance in camp, and then said this: Thursday night is appointment viewing television when Jimbo takes the field. He's gonna get skull fucked beyond anything we can imagine. Clearly, you were wrong here, and now you're trying to brush it off as "Oh it's just the preseason." Edited August 18, 2014 by Thanatos19 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milla4Prez63 678 Posted August 18, 2014 lolPhilfail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted August 25, 2014 Garappolo was ok in the only action I've seen him in against the Eagles. He was actually out there against Curry and Graham with his second team offensive starters so he was rushed a little bit. He didn't make any huge mistakes, but Belichick gave him a ton of easy throws off of great play designs. He made one really awesome throw. Outside of that...he could be a decent back up, but you need to get more than that from a 2nd round pick imo. I'm sure some dumb ass team in need of a QB overpays the Pats for him though and they recoup that hit of taking him way too early in the 2nd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KempBolt 498 Posted August 25, 2014 Garappolo was ok in the only action I've seen him in against the Eagles. He was actually out there against Curry and Graham with his second team offensive starters so he was rushed a little bit. He didn't make any huge mistakes, but Belichick gave him a ton of easy throws off of great play designs. He made one really awesome throw. Outside of that...he could be a decent back up, but you need to get more than that from a 2nd round pick imo. I'm sure some dumb ass team in need of a QB overpays the Pats for him though and they recoup that hit of taking him way too early in the 2nd. WHY are we trying to decide what he is and whether the pick was worth it in PRESEASON week 3? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted August 25, 2014 WHY are we trying to decide what he is and whether the pick was worth it in PRESEASON week 3? Because we're on a football message board and it's still kind of the offseason. What's the point of being here and talking sports all the time without speculating or predicting and shit like that? It's not just pre-season though. It's his tape from college. Plus, I mean, arm talent wise, size wise, athletically wise, footwork wise, what has ever made you think the guy was a starter or worth a 2nd round pick? Sometimes there are things you can legitimately take away from the pre-season. I agree that we shouldn't get too carried away, but the pre-season is an evaluation process is it not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KempBolt 498 Posted August 25, 2014 Because we're on a football message board and it's still kind of the offseason. What's the point of being here and talking sports all the time without speculating or predicting and shit like that? It's not just pre-season though. It's his tape from college. Plus, I mean, arm talent wise, size wise, athletically wise, footwork wise, what has ever made you think the guy was a starter or worth a 2nd round pick? Sometimes there are things you can legitimately take away from the pre-season. I agree that we shouldn't get too carried away, but the pre-season is an evaluation process is it not? Garoppolo was always going to be a project. He was highly regarded because of an accurate arm and elite release. I guess that's fine if you feel confident about what he will be in the future, but in general I think fans are way too quick to come to a conclusion on rookies. And it doesn't make sense to try and make a decision on a project talent when he's three preseason games into his development. Maybe if he was supposed to be polished and pro ready, but coming out he was regarded as the opposite of that. I guess I'll just say that by the same token of this being a football forum, I think those types of predictions are pointless and premature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted August 25, 2014 Garoppolo was always going to be a project. He was highly regarded because of an accurate arm and elite release. I guess that's fine if you feel confident about what he will be in the future, but in general I think fans are way too quick to come to a conclusion on rookies. And it doesn't make sense to try and make a decision on a project talent when he's three preseason games into his development. Maybe if he was supposed to be polished and pro ready, but coming out he was regarded as the opposite of that. I guess I'll just say that by the same token of this being a football forum, I think those types of predictions are pointless and premature. Doesn't make sense to me to pick a guy as a project just because he was accurate in college when he's not athletic and he doesn't have a big arm. If I'm taking a guy who's raw and super talented like Brett Favre was all those years ago, not a guy like Garappolo. jmo though. The thing about predictions on who's good and who's not in the NFL is they're often wrong and always changing because every player is constantly being evaluated. RIGHT NOW Garappolo is a back up QB. That's all he's shown in my eyes. Could that change? Sure, but as of now, that's what he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KempBolt 498 Posted August 25, 2014 Doesn't make sense to me to pick a guy as a project just because he was accurate in college when he's not athletic and he doesn't have a big arm. If I'm taking a guy who's raw and super talented like Brett Favre was all those years ago, not a guy like Garappolo. jmo though. The thing about predictions on who's good and who's not in the NFL is they're often wrong and always changing because every player is constantly being evaluated. RIGHT NOW Garappolo is a back up QB. That's all he's shown in my eyes. Could that change? Sure, but as of now, that's what he is. Saying what a player is in the here and now isn't a prediction. It's an observation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted August 25, 2014 You got me lol. I guess my point is now invalid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KempBolt 498 Posted August 25, 2014 You got me lol. I guess my point is now invalid. Lol... well? What do you want me to say? "I predict that this player is as good as he is right now..." What does that even mean? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted August 25, 2014 Lol... well? What do you want me to say? "I predict that this player is as good as he is right now..." What does that even mean? What has he shown? Apparently he looked like shit in camp where the defense isn't going to get fooled on play designs they see every day. He's shown some accuracy, but he hasn't had to make a lot of tough throws, so I predict since he's shown nothing as of now that he'll suck. What's unreasonable about that? Sometimes you can get a good read off a player in one offseason. Some guys have more room to grow than others. Do you think he's shown upside? I don't so I don't really think he'll get any better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KempBolt 498 Posted August 25, 2014 What has he shown? Apparently he looked like shit in camp where the defense isn't going to get fooled on play designs they see every day. He's shown some accuracy, but he hasn't had to make a lot of tough throws, so I predict since he's shown nothing as of now that he'll suck. What's unreasonable about that? Sometimes you can get a good read off a player in one offseason. Some guys have more room to grow than others. Do you think he's shown upside? I don't so I don't really think he'll get any better. Nothing's unreasonable about saying that on a forum, if that's what you want to do. I just find it silly to start making these predictions so early, that will be subject to change probably a dozen more times before we have an idea of who Garoppolo will ultimately be (as you yourself said about the nature of predictions). What's so unreasonable about me saying that? Yes, I think he's shown upside. I think that's why he was drafted. And if you want my honest opinion, I think you're looking for the evidence to fit your prediction that Belichick drafted a bust. That's kind of my inkling here... you'd like for him to suck, so you're going to interpret the evidence as though it's pointing to that end game. Which is also why I think you're making the conclusion so early on. It's fine. We all do it from time to time. Just an observation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites