Razor's QB Rankings 2015

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Cribbing the explanation from last year's thread. Any QB on the list either qualifies for passer rating (14 attempts a week), or has at least 100 passing attempts on the season.

 

QB's are measured on 4 parameters.

1. Modified Completion Percentage. This is Completion Percentage with the addition of sacks as incomplete passes, and runs as completed passes. Factoring sacks and rushing attempts into the equation tanks most efficiency stats, but it generally brings up completion percentage.

2. Modified TD/ATT Percentage. Same as before, Rushing and Passing TD's compared to passes thrown, sacks and rushing attempts. Rewards guys who don't get TD credit for their one yard sneaks, also Cam Newton, probably.

3. Modified Turnover/Attempt Percentage. Now including fumbles. All of them, even the ones that the offense recovers. Why? My logic on this is that recovering a fumble is basically a coin flip. If you lose the ball you're only getting lucky so often. Fumbles are equivalent to half a turnover, because fumbles are recovered by the fumbling team about 50% of the time.

4. Modified Yards per Attempt. Rushing Yards + Passing Yards - Sack Yards divided by rushing attempts, passing attempts and sacks. This stat tanks for nearly everyone, sack yards are a big hit to YPA. I understand not all offensive lines are built the same, but when you compare Chad Henne to Drew Stanton, there's enough of a discrepancy between good and bad QB's with roughly equivalent lines. 6.0 YPA is terrible using raw passer numbers, but with this modification it becomes roughly the average. So keep that in mind.

 

Here's the Googledoc, now with a second sheet showing how each QB has moved around the rankings each and every week.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N63OnvwePhUyr3KOzUq2foOjfLtgFtcfB7FewvbYefw/edit?usp=sharing

 

Week 4 QB Rankings:

1. Aaron Rodgers 12
2. Andy Dalton 13
3. Tom Brady 20

4. Ben Roeth 33
5. Brandon Weeden 38
6. Matt Ryan 38

7. Carson Palmer 48
8. Philip Rivers 50
9. Tyrod Taylor 51
10. Derek Carr 52
11. Tony Romo 56
12. Eli Manning 57
13. Drew Brees 58
14. Cam Newton 59
15. Nick Foles 61
16. Marcus Mariota 63
17. Russell Wilson 64

18. Josh McCown 76
19. Jay Cutler 76
20. Brian Hoyer 81
21. Kirk Cousins 81
22. Ryan Fitzy 86
23. Alex Smith 87
24. Teddy Bridgewater 90
25. Sam Bradford 91

26. Blake Bortles 97
27. Matt Stafford 97
28. Peyton Manning 101
29. Joe Flacco 102
30. Jameis Winston 104
31. Andrew Luck 104
32. Colin Kaepernick 111
33. Ryan Mallett 111
34. Ryan Tannehill 112

 

[Thanatos 2,847]

Andrew Luck is only better than Kaep, Mallet and Tanny. Jeezus.

 

The only thing I wish you had access to was drops and "should have been" interceptions.

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I like how distinctive the tiers are. I don't like how Andy Dalton is in the top one.

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Dalton has only played 1 PM games so far this season. We'll see how his stats look after the Seattle game this week, and his first primetime game in week 9 against the... Browns.

 

Dalton might be near the top for a while.

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Another week down, and we have a new points leader this week. Dalton has edged out Rodgers for the top spot, the Rams prove that they can make any QB look mediocre, or they just break him. Josh McCown finds his way into the top ten after dominating the Ravens, and Eli is making his case to get into the top tier. Anyway, here are the numbers, Dalton and Rodgers are at a dead heat in turnovers and touchdowns per attempt, that's pretty neat.

 

Week 5 QB Rankings:

1. Andy Dalton 13
2. Tom Brady 14
3. Aaron Rodgers 16

4. Ben Roethlisberger 30
5. Carson Palmer 36
6. Eli Manning 41
7. Philip Rivers 44
8. Josh McCown 44
9. Tyrod Taylor 45

10. Tony Romo 55
11. Cam Newton 57
12. Brian Hoyer 61
13. Russell Wilson 63
14. Matt Ryan 66
15. Derek Carr 66
16. Marcus Mariota 67
17. Brandon Weeden 68
18. Drew Brees 73
19. Matt Hasselbeck 73

20. Blake Bortles 80
21. Sam Bradford 83
22. Jay Cutler 86
23. Alex Smith 88
24. Kirk Cousins 88
25. Ryan Fitzpatrick 90
26. Teddy Bridgewater 91

27. Joe Flacco 99
28. Jameis Winston 102
29. Colin Kaepernick 104
30. Nick Foles 105
31. Matt Stafford 108
32. Andrew Luck 111
33. Peyton Manning 111
34. Ryan Tannehill 120
35. Ryan Mallett 120

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Your list is clearly wrong. On no list can Andy Dalton be the #1 QB in the league, sorry.

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Sometimes stats can be a funny thing^

 

Crazy to think about if he actually was like you know a good QB

[Cherry 1,302]

Andy for HoF

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Another week of football is in the books, and we currently have five undefeated teams. As you would expect, three of those undefeated QBs are at the top of this ranking. One of them is sitting right in the middle of the pack at 16, and one of them... is dead last? How does that even work? Well I can extol the virtues of the Broncos' defense, but I'd rather talk QBs. The top four has been fairly consistent this season, but Roethlisberger is gonna fall out of qualifying for this list unless he plays next week. That leads to even further potential shake up, as everything below Roethlisberger has been a clusterfuck this season. Brian Hoyer has gone from almost last all the way to 7th this week. Tyrod Taylor took the week off and he's up to 5th. This season has not been the exquisite QB concerto that we are used to. This is the end of an era, I hope you enjoyed it.

 

Week 6 QB Rankings

 

1. Andy Dalton 11
2. Tom Brady 14
3. Aaron Rodgers 16

4. Ben Roeth 27

5. Tyrod Taylor 36 (+4)
6. Philip Rivers 38 (+1)
7. Brian Hoyer 38 (+5)
8. Carson Palmer 40 (-3)

9. Russell Wilson 51 (+4)
10. Drew Brees 53 (+8)
11. Derek Carr 56 (+4)
12. Eli Manning 57 (-6)
13. Brandon Weeden 58 (+4)
14. Matt Ryan 61
15. Ryan Fitzy 62 (+10)
16. Cam Newton 64 (-5)
17. Josh McCown 67 (-9)

18. Jay Cutler 77 (+4)
19. Marcus Mariota 78 (-3)
20. Matt Stafford 78 (+11)
21. Alex Smith 82 (+2)
22. Colin Kaepernick 83 (+7)
23. Blake Bortles 85 (-3)

24. Sam Bradford 92 (-3)
25. Joe Flacco 93 (+2)
26. Kirk Cousins 94 (-2)
27. Andrew Luck 99 (+5)
28. Jameis Winston 101
29. Teddy Bridge 101 (-3)
30. Ryan Tannehill 102 (+4)
31. Nick Foles 103 (-1)

32. Ryan Mallett 113 (+3)
33. Peyton Manning 114

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Newton went... down? I'm confused.

 

Lmao Peyton.

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Newton went... down? I'm confused.

 

Lmao Peyton.

 

It's a number of things. Romo and Hasslebeck leaving the list shook the numbers up a fair deal, and Brees, Hoyers and Fitzpatrick just sort of rocketed ahead of Newton. Newton also had a low YPA against the Seahawks, and he's like just barely below six other QB's in that category. It probably made the difference.

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Today's list could easily be called garbage time heroes. Hoyer and Luck show average numbers this week because they dumped their teams into massive holes to start the game. The top of the list has stayed solid throughout, Dalton and Rodgers took a break today, so Brady faced a toughed defense and slid down a spot. Every Qb on this list now has 100+ attempts, so Weeden and Roethlisberger are officially off the list. That means we have no qualifying Cowboys or Steelers, so only 31 names are on this list (Two Texans, one for the other 29 teams)

 

1. Andy Dalton 9
2. Aaron Rodgers 10 (+1)
3. Tom Brady 15 (-1)

4. Carson Palmer 27 (+4)
5. Derek Carr 28 (+6)
6. Tyrod Taylor 33 (-1)
7. Philip Rivers 37 (-1)

8. Russell Wilson 47 (+1)
9. Drew Brees 52 (+1)
10. Brian Hoyer 54 (-3)
11. Eli Manning 54 (+1)
12. Josh McCown 58 (+5)
13. Ryan Fitzy 60 (+2)
14. Matt Ryan 64
15. Jay Cutler 68 (+3)
16. Cam Newton 70
17. Matt Stafford 71 (+3)
18. Kirk Cousins 71 (+8)
19. Alex Smith 73 (+2)
20. Ryan Tannehill 74 (+10)
21. Jameis Winston 78 (+7)
22. Blake Bortles 80 (+1)
23. Teddy Bridge 80 (+6)
24. Marcus Mariota 81 (-5)
25. Joe Flacco 86
26. Colin Kaepernick 90 (-4)
27. Andrew Luck 94
28. Nick Foles 99 (+3)
29. Sam Bradford 103 (-5)
30. Ryan Mallett 107 (+2)
31. Peyton Manning 111 (+2)

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Derek Carr.

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Jameis continuing to climb up the list.

[Cherry 1,302]

Is Andy the highest a QB has ever been?

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I'm pretty sure Rodgers has gotten to 6 before.

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Carr....

 

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Yeah, I've had QB's run full sweeps early on in the season, back when I was only tracking three stats, RG3 held all top spots for a few weeks.

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me theinks big bob is bestor throwy guy in national conference of feetball

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This week, the top three guys fall back down to earth a little, Dalton and Rodgers had some bad games, and Tom Brady... well he still did pretty well. With Brees and Eli having a gunslinger match on sunday, a new top tier seems to have formed. Roethlisberger's rough day puts him outside the top ten again, but I expect he'll be back there shortly. Meanwhile the battle for worst QB is really heating up after Andrew Luck's stinker this week. Not even ridiculous almost comebacks are going to save him from the trash heap.

 

Week 8 QB Rankings

 

1. Tom Brady 16 (+2)
2. Andy Dalton 18 (-1)
3. Aaron Rodgers 22 (-1)
4. Derek Carr 27 (+1)
5. Carson Palmer 29 (-1)
6. Tyrod Taylor 33
7. Drew Brees 34 (+2)
8. Philip Rivers 36 (-1)
9. Eli Manning 40 (+2)

10. Russell Wilson 55 (-2)
11. Brian Hoyer 56 (-1)
12. Ben Roeth 57 (NR)
13. Ryan Fitzy 57
14. Matt Ryan 61
15. Jay Cutler 65
16. Alex Smith 66 (+3)
17. Josh McCown 68 (-5)
18. Kirk Cousins 72
19. Cam Newton 77 (-3)
20. Jameis Winston 81 (+1)
21. Blake Bortles 84 (+1)
22. Marcus Mariota 85 (+2)
23. Matt Stafford 85 (-6)
24. Joe Flacco 85 (+1)
25. Teddy Bridge 88 (-2)
26. Ryan Tannehill 91 (-6)
27. Nick Foles 97 (+1)
28. Colin Kaepernick 100 (-2)
29. Peyton Manning 105 (+2)
30. Andrew Luck 107 (-3)
31. Sam Bradford 107 (-2)
32. Ryan Mallett 108 (-2)

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The Top Three has finally seen a major shakeup. After Aaron Rodgers has been exposed as a fraud (ha), by great defenses, he has dropped out of the top 5 entirely, instead ceding his spot to a mix of young and old faces. Ties are the name of the game this week, as nearly every QB in the top 14 has got his spot based on YPA tiebreaker with another guy. Ryan Mallett is keeping the worst QB spot nice and cozy this season, but Cassel will qualify for attempts next week and Peyton Manning is going to try his very hardest to complete at least one pass to break Favre's yardage record.

 

Week 10 QB Rankings

 

1. Andy Dalton 12 (+1)
2. Tom Brady 12 (-1)

3. Carson Palmer 28 (+2)
4. Tyrod Taylor 28 (+2)
5. Drew Brees 28 (+2)
6. Derek Carr 30 (-2)
7. Aaron Rodgers 30 (-4)
8. Philip Rivers 36

9. Eli Manning 50
10. Russell Wilson 52
11. Ben Roeth 58 (+1)
12. Matt Ryan 58 (+2)
13. Ryan Fitzy 58
14. Jay Cutler 58 (+1)
15. Brian Hoyer 60 (-4)
16. Marcus Mariota 62 (+6)
17. Alex Smith 68 (-1)
18. Josh McCown 72 (-1)
19. Cam Newton 76
20. Jameis Winston 79

21. Kirk Cousins 86 (-3)
22. Matt Stafford 87 (+1)
23. Teddy Bridge 88 (+2)
24. Joe Flacco 88
25. Blake Bortles 93 (-4)
26. Ryan Tannehill 94
27. Nick Foles 99
28. Colin Kaepernick 101
29. Sam Bradford 103 (+2)
30. Peyton Manning 104 (-1)
31. Andrew Luck 104 (-1)
32. Ryan Mallett 110

Edited November 17, 2015 by RazorStar

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Man, that Brees sure is washed up.

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The season is in full swing now. We've got two new additions to the QB rankings, and they're about where you expect them to be. Peyton Manning had the worst game of his career and was benched, Nick Foles, Ryan Fitzpatrick and a few others weren't able to match his incompetence, but still failed to make an impact for their teams. On the positive side, Cam Newton's Stats are finally matching his play, and Jay Cutler has snuck his way onto the top ten. The NFL is strange, and if I knew the only way to make Jay Cutler and John Fox good was to lambaste their team every week on the radio show, I would have done so sooner.

 

Week 11 QB Rankings

 

1. Tom Brady 14 (+1)
2. Andy Dalton 15 (-1)

 

3. Drew Brees 26 (+2)
4. Derek Carr 28 (+2)
5. Tyrod Taylor 30 (-1)
6. Philip Rivers 32 (+2)
7. Aaron Rodgers 38
8. Carson Palmer 39 (-5)
9. Jay Cutler 40 (+5)
10. Eli Manning 43 (-1)

 

11. Ben Roeth 51

 

12. Matt Ryan 59
13. Cam Newton 60 (+6)
14. Russell Wilson 62 (-4)
15. Kirk Cousins 62 (+6)
16. Marcus Mariota 67
17. Brian Hoyer 67 (-2)
18. Alex Smith 69 (-1)
19. Ryan Fitzy 71 (-6)
20. Josh McCown 76 (-2)

 

21. Joe Flacco 84 (+3)

 

22. Jameis Winston 91 (-2)
23. Teddy Bridge 91
24. Matt Stafford 94 (-2)
25. Johnny Manziel 95 (NR)
26. Ryan Tannehill 98
27. Blake Bortles 99 (-2)
28. Sam Bradford 103 (+1)
29. Colin Kaepernick 105 (-1)
30. Matt Cassel 108 (NR)
31. Andrew Luck 112
32. Nick Foles 114 (-5)
33. Ryan Mallett 117 (-1)
34. Peyton Manning 119 (-4)

Edited November 17, 2015 by RazorStar

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With another week, the number of qualifying QB's increase. A second Cowboy has made it onto the list, and he's quite clearly showing Cassel how it is done. Matt Hasslebeck has settled right in the middle of the list as well, joining the malaise of mediocrity between Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston. At the bottom, nothing has changed, all of the bottom seven are either injured, benched or cut. The top five remains unchanged but Aaron Rodgers' fall has been noted, he's down to tenth place now. One more weak performance and he'll find himself outside the top ten in efficiency for the first time in what feels like years.

 

Week 12 QB Rankings

 

1. Tom Brady 19
2. Andy Dalton 23

 

3. Drew Brees 30
4. Derek Carr 35
5. Tyrod Taylor 39
6. Eli Manning 43 (+4)
7. Philip Rivers 44 (-1)
8. Carson Palmer 48
9. Russell Wilson 50 (+5)
10. Aaron Rodgers 50 (-3)
11. Ben Roeth 52
12. Tony Romo 52 (NR)
13. Cam Newton 56
14. Jay Cutler 58 (-5)
15. Marcus Mariota 63 (+1)
16. Alex Smith 64 (+2)
17. Matt Ryan 68 (-5)
18. Brian Hoyer 68 (-1)
19. Matt Hasselbeck 68 (NR)

 

20. Kirk Cousins 75 (-5)
21. Jameis Winston 77 (+1)
22. Josh McCown 80 (-2)

 

23. Ryan Fitzy 88 (-4)
24. Teddy Bridge 89 (-1)
25. Matt Stafford 91 (-1)
26. Joe Flacco 95 (-5)

 

27. Ryan Tannehill 102 (-1)
28. Johnny Manziel 105 (-3)
29. Blake Bortles 107 (-2)
30. Sam Bradford 111 (-2)
31. Colin Kaepernick 113 (-2)
32. Matt Cassel 114 (-2)
33. Andrew Luck 115 (-2)
34. Nick Foles 119 (-2)
35. Ryan Mallett 124 (-2)
36. Peyton Manning 129 (-2)

Edited November 24, 2015 by RazorStar

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There were some huge waves made last week. While we've had no new additions this week, Osweiler, Sanchez and Gabbert are all itching to sneak into the list next week. Where they might place is a mystery, but one thing is certain, they'll still be better than Peyton Manning and Nick Foles. Russell Wilson has jumped all the way into the top five after dismantling the Steelers secondary, and joining him as big gainers are Kirk Cousins and Matt Stafford after obliterating their NFC East opponents. On the downward trend, Romo threw some poor INT's and got broken for the rest of the season. Eli threw three interceptions that could have easily been six against the Skins, and Marcus Mariota's anemic performance against the Raiders has him below Jameis Winston for the first time this season.

 

Dalton has overtaken Brady for now, but this battle at the top is still really close.

Week 13 QB Rankings

1. Andy Dalton 18 (+1)
2. Tom Brady 20 (-1)

3. Russell Wilson 33 (+6)
4. Derek Carr 33
5. Tyrod Taylor 33
6. Philip Rivers 34 (+1)
7. Drew Brees 40 (-4)
8. Carson Palmer 43

9. Cam Newton 50 (+4)
10. Aaron Rodgers 56
11. Ben Roeth 57
12. Jay Cutler 57 (+2)
13. Alex Smith 57 (+3)
14. Kirk Cousins 58 (+6)
15. Brian Hoyer 64
16. Matt Hasselbeck 64 (+3)
17. Eli Manning 68 (-11)
18. Matt Stafford 68 (+7)

19. Tony Romo 77 (-7)
20. Matt Ryan 77 (-3)
21. Ryan Fitzy 78 (+2)
22. Jameis Winston 79 (-1)
23. Marcus Mariota 81 (-8)
24. Josh McCown 83 (-2)
25. Teddy Bridge 87 (-1)

26. Joe Flacco 94

27. Blake Bortles 104 (+2)
28. Ryan Tannehill 107 (-1)
29. Johnny Manziel 108 (-1)
30. Sam Bradford 110
31. Colin Kaepernick 111
32. Matt Cassel 117
33. Andrew Luck 117
34. Ryan Mallett 122 (+1)
35. Peyton Manning 125 (+1)

36. Nick Foles 134 (-2)