RazorStar 4,025 Posted December 21, 2017 Might be that whole Every citizen gets a gun thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted December 21, 2017 We keep getting attacked at home man. It's getting crazy. Stopping a terrorist attack is a whole different animal than building a strong national defense here at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OSUViking 505 Posted December 21, 2017 Agreed with Than here. National defense seems to speak more to missile and military defenses. The former are tricky, and we likely won't have useful ICBM deterrents for a long time, but invading and occupying the US is basically impossible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) I think one good example, is seeing how easily Russia infiltrated and influenced our citizens here with propaganda. I still contend that they didn't actually change any outcomes (until prove says otherwise), but the fact that they have the capabilities without our stopping them is pretty scary Edited December 21, 2017 by Olenna4Ever 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted December 21, 2017 What scares me is that a large faction of our society is stupid enough to be swayed by shit they see on social media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted December 21, 2017 Ya for sure, but propoaganda is and has been a thing for hundreds of years for a reason. It works. And it isnt like its always in your face. The most effective use sometimes are just subliminal messaging Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted December 24, 2017 At this point we're allowing the New York Times to print material damning the President with no credible evidence (referring to story saying Trump said all Haitian immigrants have AIDS and that no Nigerian Immigrants will go back to their huts after seeing America). Pretty much everybody at the meeting this supposedly occurred at has already called bullshit on the report. Something tells me they would have withheld this story if a Democrat was in office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted December 24, 2017 I think one good example, is seeing how easily Russia infiltrated and influenced our citizens here with propaganda. I still contend that they didn't actually change any outcomes (until prove says otherwise), but the fact that they have the capabilities without our stopping them is pretty scaryYeah it has definitely involved. At this point it's an industry that is used by both business and the government and religion. Freud really fucked us guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) At this point we're allowing the New York Times to print material damning the President with no credible evidence (referring to story saying Trump said all Haitian immigrants have AIDS and that no Nigerian Immigrants will go back to their huts after seeing America). Pretty much everybody at the meeting this supposedly occurred at has already called bullshit on the report. Something tells me they would have withheld this story if a Democrat was in office. We're also letting a President lie with every other word out of his mouth. You know the difference between this orange embarassment in the White House and the media? If the media is shown to be wrong, they print retractions, (unless they are Faux News, ofc). The President and this administration just keep on lying through their teeth. The guy he picked to be ambassador to the Netherlands, for example, claimed Muslim immigrants were burning cars and that the Dutch police literally had no go zones. This was back in 2015. When a dutch journalist confronted him on this last week he said, "I never said that, that's what you would call fake news." The journalist then played the clip back to him, and said, "Now you just called this fake news" and the man responded, "I did not call it fake news" and then proceeded to deny that he had denied saying that. All in the same interview over the span of about ten minutes. This administration has an objective war on reality and the truth in a way that no other administration has ever done because they are so bold and brazen about their lies. At this point anyone who is actively supporting Trump and the nonsense he and his people are pulling is flat out delusional. The GOP as a whole is also resorting to insulting their constituents. Ted Cruz called anyone who though Net Neutrality was a good thing a "snowflake" in a tweet. Edited December 24, 2017 by Thanatos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted December 26, 2017 I wish I could read your posts OSU... Also, USA is cutting almost 300M dollars from it's UN budget. Great move. Thankful... cut more! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OSUViking 505 Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) If I remembered what it was, I'd edit it back in lol Edited December 26, 2017 by OSUViking 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted December 26, 2017 We're also letting a President lie with every other word out of his mouth. You know the difference between this orange embarassment in the White House and the media? If the media is shown to be wrong, they print retractions, (unless they are Faux News, ofc). The President and this administration just keep on lying through their teeth. The guy he picked to be ambassador to the Netherlands, for example, claimed Muslim immigrants were burning cars and that the Dutch police literally had no go zones. This was back in 2015. When a dutch journalist confronted him on this last week he said, "I never said that, that's what you would call fake news." The journalist then played the clip back to him, and said, "Now you just called this fake news" and the man responded, "I did not call it fake news" and then proceeded to deny that he had denied saying that. All in the same interview over the span of about ten minutes. This administration has an objective war on reality and the truth in a way that no other administration has ever done because they are so bold and brazen about their lies. At this point anyone who is actively supporting Trump and the nonsense he and his people are pulling is flat out delusional. The GOP as a whole is also resorting to insulting their constituents. Ted Cruz called anyone who though Net Neutrality was a good thing a "snowflake" in a tweet. Irrelevant to the Times publishing a damning piece with no sufficient evidence. It's almost a non sequitur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) Irrelevant to the Times publishing a damning piece with no sufficient evidence. It's almost a non sequitur It's not irrelevant when the GOP is allowed to lie through their teeth over and over again and people are apparently just going to say "welp I guess that's how things are now" and then the Times publishes a piece sourced by an anonymous person and apparently that is awful. Why would anyone at that meeting confirm the Times report publicly? That would be tantamount to political and career suicide at this point. My point is, the Times is a very reliable source. The Trump admin is known for lying over and over again and refusing to ever retract their statements, and when the Times makes a mistake they do issue retractions. If its just the Times word vs the Trump administration, I'm going with the people who don't lie 70% of the time. It's also not like this would be out of character for Trump, we have a confirmed instance of him throwing a fit and generalizing refugees coming into this country from his conversation with the Australian PM. Edited December 26, 2017 by Thanatos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014 Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) I'm not usually one for these type of repost image thingers, but this one made me do the face. Edited December 27, 2017 by Zack_of_Steel 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014 Posted December 28, 2017 [quote name="OSUViking" post="2621600" timestamp="1514419274"] [/quote]dawg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OSUViking 505 Posted December 28, 2017 dawg I remember what I said this time. It was: thought provoking, but still very black and white in terms of thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted December 28, 2017 Why / how do you blank post? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OSUViking 505 Posted December 28, 2017 Why / how do you blank post? I have no idea. I have absolutely zero control over when it shows up and when it doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014 Posted December 28, 2017 I have no idea. I have absolutely zero control over when it shows up and when it doesn't. Mobile/Desktop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OSUViking 505 Posted December 28, 2017 Mobile/Desktop? It's happened on both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted December 28, 2017 Wondering what people think about Iliza Shlesinger holding a show for women only. A guy and some friends bought a ticket (I presume online) in which it said women only.. But got there early and one of the employees said he would have to sit in the back (yikes.. lol). They went to eat before returning for the show where they were denied entry and given refunds. The guys has since hired a lawyer and filed a lawsuit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted December 29, 2017 Why did she make her show women only? (Firing a lawsuit is really stupid, btw, when the show is advertised for women only, you should expect that to be the case.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted December 29, 2017 Meh, I could care less, honestly. The guy got a refund. Let her put on a show for women only. She's really hot though. If she was smart she'd try to go after men as an audience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites