RazorStar 4,025 Posted January 25, 2017 Cool so: Trump is cutting funding to the VA, no more doctors and Trump's regime is jailing reporters for felony charges during protests Good stuff. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted January 25, 2017 All refugees banned indefinitely, while we can implement "extreme vetting" (something that we already have in place). Hey guys, sorry we completely ruined your country. No, why would we help you out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted January 25, 2017 Keep rolling back all of Obama's (and some of Bush's) trash executive orders, PLEASE. Good start so far... Obama throwing away 40B dollars just since the election... It's so easy to spend other peoples money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted January 25, 2017 Keep rolling back all of Obama's (and some of Bush's) trash executive orders, PLEASE. Good start so far... Obama throwing away 40B dollars just since the election... It's so easy to spend other peoples money. Like the billions that will be spent on the wall (which would be a horrendous idea even if it didn't cost anything). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted January 25, 2017 All refugees banned indefinitely, while we can implement "extreme vetting" (something that we already have in place). Hey guys, sorry we completely ruined your country. No, why would we help you out? And he's continued the drone strikes already. He's not responsible for Obama and Bush's failures but as president it is still his responsibility to clean up after them. Like you said we put all those people out of their homes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted January 25, 2017 Like the billions that will be spent on the wall (which would be a horrendous idea even if it didn't cost anything). Maybe we can build a moat too... Think about the possibilites frickin sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their frickin heads guarding the Great Wall of America. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted January 25, 2017 And he's continued the drone strikes already. He's not responsible for Obama and Bush's failures but as president it is still his responsibility to clean up after them. Like you said we put all those people out of their homes. Yeah I generally liked Obama, but the drone strikes are probably the worst aspect of his presidency. I had 0 expectations that would change though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted January 25, 2017 Maybe we can build a moat too... Think about the possibilites frickin sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their frickin heads guarding the Great Wall of America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted January 25, 2017 The Trump Regime is trying to imprison journalists that cover dissent. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/four-more-journalists-get-felony-charges-after-covering-inauguration-unrest/ar-AAmbHUN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted January 25, 2017 Step one of any good fascist regime is to imprison and/or execute all dissenters. I mean, he's already got a gag order on several departments, the climate change page on the white house website has been stricken down, who would have earnestly believed that the nazi comparisons were right on the nose? Certainly not the people who voted for him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJORN 679 Posted January 25, 2017 I'm going to sit back, enjoy the memes, and prepare for Fallout 5. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan4Life 542 Posted January 25, 2017 Can anyone explain to me why Trump is so hell bent on the voter fraud thing, especially when I haven't seen much real evidence to back it up? Is it really just his ego about losing the popular vote or is there something I'm missing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted January 25, 2017 It works in two ways. 1. The obvious, it satisfies his ego, and Trump is a textbook narcissist. 2. It creates an invisible enemy, and acts to heighten paranoia and be used as an excuse for dealing with dissidents. Probably not the best excuse, but it'll be one of hundreds. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted January 25, 2017 Can anyone explain to me why Trump is so hell bent on the voter fraud thing, especially when I haven't seen much real evidence to back it up? Is it really just his ego about losing the popular vote or is there something I'm missing? It's partially his ego but also to use as a reason to pass voter restriction laws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted January 25, 2017 I know it's still a bad thing if Trump restricts the free press but you realize that Obama used the espionage act to put government officials in jail for talking to reporters. He also expanded the government's spying on it's citizens much further than Bush could have dreamed. I think this is one of the biggest reasons it's such a good thing Trump is in office because nobody bats a fucking eye lash when Obama does this shit. Hillary probably would have gotten the same treatment. People have woken the fuck up. We need activism in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted January 25, 2017 https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/824321805334839296 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted January 25, 2017 I haven't looked into any specifics of that, but what a complete waste of time. If you want stricter voter registration laws, I am not that upset about that. But wasting money on an "investigation"... into something that is pointless and irrelevant at this point? Stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted January 25, 2017 I can see why you wouldn't mind stricter voter registration laws being a Republican. Low voter turnout is the only chance they have. Isn't that sad? They're the anti-democracy party. It's pretty sickening to to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted January 25, 2017 I can see why you wouldn't mind stricter voter registration laws being a Republican. Low voter turnout is the only chance they have. Isn't that sad? They're the anti-democracy party. It's pretty sickening to to be honest. Instead of nitpicking your personal insult towards me I will just say that that isn't the only chance they have -- Hillary Clinton could run again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted January 25, 2017 I like how you take being called a republican as an insult even though you pretty much toe the Republican Party line on major issues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) http://inthesetimes.com/article/18695/TPP_Free-Trade_Globalization_Obama The author of this article seems to have a good deal of credibility. He also gives his sources. Why does he seem to have a good deal of credibility? Because you say so? I've never heard of this guy before. Give me a vetted, actual, source. Can anyone explain to me why Trump is so hell bent on the voter fraud thing, especially when I haven't seen much real evidence to back it up? Is it really just his ego about losing the popular vote or is there something I'm missing? Voter suppression. The GOP has been hardcore about voter suppression for awhile. You see, they are losing the country and they know it. The millenials voted overwhelmingly against Trump. They have to do something to maintain their hold on their power, and coming up with bullshit madeup problems with voter fraud that don't exist in the real world is an excuse to make it harder to vote, and thus to hold onto power as long as they can. They've lost the war. It is a matter of time before progress throws the old Republicans- the ones that continue to cling to anti-abortion, anti gun control, and anti gay marriage- aside and they know it. They are simply trying to come up with ways to hold on as long as they can. Edited January 25, 2017 by Zack_of_Steel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) Why does he seem to have a good deal of credibility? Because you say so? I've never heard of this guy before. Give me a vetted, actual, source. Well for one the guy links half of his sources on the page. He's been a journalist for 40 years and has a PhD. https://www.sanders.senate.gov/download/the-trans-pacific-trade-tpp-agreement-must-be-defeated?inline=file Maybe you'll believe Bernie Sanders. Usually you can trust something with .gov in the url right? 1. TPP will allow corporations to outsource even more jobs overseas. According to the Economic Policy Institute, if the TPP is agreed to, the U.S. will lose more than 130,000 jobs to Vietnam and Japan alone. But that is just the tip of the iceberg. Service Sector Jobs will be lost. At a time when corporations have already outsourced over 3 million service sector jobs in the U.S., TPP includes rules that will make it even easier for corporate America to outsource call centers; computer programming; engineering; accounting; and medical diagnostic jobs. Manufacturing jobs will be lost. As a result of NAFTA, the U.S. lost nearly 700,000 jobs. As a result of Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China, the U.S. lost over 2.7 million jobs. As a result of the Korea Free Trade Agreement, the U.S. has lost 70,000 jobs. The TPP would make matters worse by providing special benefits to firms that offshore jobs and by reducing the risks associated with operating in low-wage countries. U.S. sovereignty will be undermined by giving corporations the right to challenge our laws before international tribunals. The TPP creates a special dispute resolution process that allows corporations to challenge any domestic laws that could adversely impact their “expected future profits.” These challenges would be heard before UN and World Bank tribunals which could require taxpayer compensation to corporations. This process undermines our sovereignty and subverts democratically passed laws including those dealing with labor, health, and the environment. Wages, benefits, and collective bargaining will be threatened. NAFTA, CAFTA, PNTR with China, and other free trade agreements have helped drive down the wages and benefits of American workers and have eroded collective bargaining rights. The TPP will make the race to the bottom worse because it forces American workers to compete with desperate workers in Vietnam where the minimum wage is just 56 cents an hour. Our ability to protect the environment will be undermined. The TPP will allow corporations to challenge any law that would adversely impact their future profits. Pending claims worth over $14 billion have been filed based on similar language in other trade agreements. Most of these claims deal with challenges to environmental laws in a number of countries. The TPP will make matters even worse by giving corporations the right to sue any of the nations that sign onto the TPP. These lawsuits would be heard in international tribunals bypassing domestic courts. Food Safety Standards will be threatened. The TPP would make it easier for countries like Vietnam to export contaminated fish and seafood into the U.S. The FDA has already prevented hundreds of seafood imports from TPP countries because of salmonella, e-coli, methyl-mercury and drug residues. But the FDA only inspects 1-2 percent of food imports and will be overwhelmed by the vast expansion of these imports if the TPP is agreed to. Buy America laws could come to an end. The U.S. has several laws on the books that require the federal government to buy goods and services that are made in America or mostly made in this country. Under TPP, foreign corporations must be given equal access to compete for these government contracts with companies that make products in America. Under TPP, the U.S. could not even prevent companies that have horrible human rights records from receiving government contracts paid by U.S. taxpayers. Prescription drug prices will increase, access to life saving drugs will decrease, and the profits of drug companies will go up. Big pharmaceutical companies are working hard to ensure that the TPP extends the monopolies they have for prescription drugs by extending their patents (which currently can last 20 years or more). This would expand the profits of big drug companies, keep drug prices artificially high, and leave millions of people around the world without access to life saving drugs. Doctors without Borders stated that “the TPP agreement is on track to become the most harmful trade pact ever for access to medicines in developing countries.” Wall Street would benefit at the expense of everyone else. Under TPP, governments would be barred from imposing “capital controls” that have been successfully used to avoid financial crises. These controls range from establishing a financial speculation tax to limiting the massive flows of speculative capital flowing into and out of countries responsible for the Asian financial crisis in the 1990s. In other words, the TPP would expand the rights and power of the same Wall Street firms that nearly destroyed the world economy just five years ago and would create the conditions for more financial instability in the future. Last year, I co-sponsored a bill with Sen. Harkin to create a Wall Street speculation tax of just 0.03 percent on trades of derivatives, credit default swaps, and large amounts of stock. If TPP were enacted, such a financial speculation tax may be in violation of this trade agreement. The TPP would reward authoritarian regimes like Vietnam that systematically violate human rights. The State Department, the U.S. Department of Labor, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International have all documented Vietnam’s widespread violations of basic international standards for human rights. Yet, the TPP would reward Vietnam’s bad behavior by giving it duty free access to the U.S. market. 10. The TPP has no expiration date, making it virtually impossible to repeal. Once TPP is agreed to, it has no sunset date and could only be altered by a consensus of all of the countries that agreed to it. Other countries, like China, could be allowed to join in the future. For example, Canada and Mexico joined TPP negotiations in 2012 and Japan joined last year. Since clicking links seems to be a problem for you I went ahead and posted it for you. Instead of nitpicking your personal insult towards me I will just say that that isn't the only chance they have -- Hillary Clinton could run again. It wasn't a personal insult dawg. More of a shot at the GOP. I have no problems with taking shots at the democratic party either. I don't just blindly follow the policies of the party that I'm registered to. (that was a slight personal insult, there you go.) Edited January 25, 2017 by seanbrock 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted January 25, 2017 https://twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/824349084009926656 I guess we need Mattis to babysit trump since he's the only adult in the room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted January 25, 2017 BREAKING: The United States has never stopped torturing anyway. I like how all these policies are being made to look as if they're a result of Trump's maturity level or some other inadequacy. This is just par for the course of US foreign policy. Should we stop torturing? Absolutely, but this is far from some new thing that Trump is instituting or some relic from the Bush/Cheney administration that Trump brought back. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
