Trump Regime thread.

[seanbrock 1,684]

 

While it might be true that we're more civil than the country we occupy, we're still invading and occupying another country. I feel like this entire strategy accomplishes nothing but to unite people against us in the long run.

There's also the fact that when we invade we kill a lot of civilians and destroy a lot of infrastructure. Then once we pull out groups like Al Queda and Isis come in and take control or we introduce some puppet regime that has in many cases been worse than the one that it replaced. Just look at what we did in Iran installing the Shah

 

Our military is awesome. It's the best in the world, but they haven't fought for anyone's freedom in many many years. I honestly think that if we re-instated the draft there would be a lot more resistance to these bullshit wars because everyone would have something at stake. Instead we're just sending a bunch of poor kids to be killed or maimed because they can't afford job training or education.

[Favre4Ever+ 4,476]

Random and not that important, but somewhat interesting anyway (at least in my opinion)...

Publishers are offering Comey $10M advances for the rights to his memoir. And some publishers are confirming that there are attempts to get the rights to make a movie about his life.

Tough life, right there. lol

Jim Comey's story has everything, from White House intrigue to possible corruption and law breaking. His explosive story makes 'West Wing' and 'House of Cards' on a par with Mister Rogers,' an acquisition editor for a major New York publishing house told DailyMail.com

'When his proposal hits my desk, I've already been authorized to offer $10 million.'

Not only that, but the publisher of another key player in the book world revealed that major Hollywood producers are already lining up to make the torn-from-the-headlines blockbuster movie about Comey's life and his attempt to unseat the president.

A prominent movie-TV agent told DailyMail.com: 'I know one top drawer producer who's already talking to stars to cast the Comey role. He has to be tall, good-looking and a Jimmy Stewart-John Wayne-hero type. I was mesmerized when I spent the whole day watching Comey testify.

'Comey could expect a movie deal tied into the book worth many millions of dollars more, tens of millions.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4589692/James-Comey-10-million-payday-dish-Hillary-Trump.html#ixzz4jd4d60oB

 

Edited June 10, 2017 by Banned4Ever

[Favre4Ever+ 4,476]

Dianne Feinstein is calling for an investigation into whether or not Loretta Lynch pressured Jim Comey into covering for the Clinton campaign.

 

Link:
http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/337323-dem-we-need-investigate-whether-lynch-gave-cover-to-clinton

Edited June 11, 2017 by Banned4Ever

[ATL_Predator+ 1,196]

 

You might hate metal... that's fine.

 

But the message in this song is pretty clear.

[OSUViking 505]

Fuck them too. Lock em up. They realize what they're doing.

I don't think you realize how serious and pervasive addiction is. It's not a logical, coherent thought process. It boils down to "What do I need to do to get high?" and basically just that. Some may have more restraint. The solution to addiction is not just saying don't use drugs that are addictive. A lot of times there is trauma that triggers issues with regulating chemical responses that makes someone much more likely to get addicted.

[OSUViking 505]

I agree. If his advisors don't tell him the U.S. have troops in Qatar, how the fuck is he gonna know? It's not like Qatar is a hub of activity.

... It has one of the most geopolitically important bases in the region. There's absolutely no excuse that our Commander in Chief is not aware of this. Literally our biggest base in the Middle East, and it's right across a relatively thin body of water from a country seen as our biggest adversary in the region.

 

Could be sarcasm on your end, don't know. This is beyond pathetic on Trump's end.

Edited June 13, 2017 by OSUViking

[Cherry 1,302]

... It has one of the most geopolitically important bases in the region. There's absolutely no excuse that our Commander in Chief is not aware of this. Literally our biggest base in the Middle East, and it's right across a relatively thin body of water from a country seen as our biggest adversary in the region.

 

Could be sarcasm on your end, don't know. This is beyond pathetic on Trump's end.

 

My point was that if Trump had not been informed by his advisors about it, then it doesn't make any sense to be upset for him not knowing. Now, if he was told about it and just forgot, then okay that's a fuck up on his end.

[blotsfan 2,112]

Glad he literally had a celebration for the signing of this bill.

 

https://twitter.com/alexwagner/status/874729182235959302

[Favre4Ever+ 4,476]

Glad he literally had a celebration for the signing of this bill.

 

https://twitter.com/alexwagner/status/874729182235959302

 

What gave you the impression that it was a celebration, exactly? He used it to tell GOP senators that they need to include more things that YOU WANT... lol.

 

You should be championing for things like this. Trump defying the GOP is what we all should want. Instead, you make it about some... celebration? lol

 

Also, unrelated, kind of surprised to see Iowa junior Senator Joni Ernst in the seat directly next to the President.

Edited June 13, 2017 by Banned4Ever

[blotsfan 2,112]

I'm talking about the celebration of the house bill, that he says he doesn't like.

 

In case you need a reminder:

 

https://twitter.com/Lis_Smith/status/874740645738541058

 

 

Like yeah, great. You want to make this bill marginally less terrible. Maybe you should try to be more involved in the drafting of the legislation. Just because you don't have a vote doesn't mean you can't be involved in the process of ironing things out. Obama certainly put the work in to get a bill through.

 

I'm not giving Trump credit for the optics. If he genuinely cared about health care, he would've done so much more than this half-assed criticism.

[Thanatos 2,847]

Blots was referring to earlier in the Rose Garden where Trump was celebrating the signing of the House Bill with several other GOP members.

[Favre4Ever+ 4,476]

I'm talking about the celebration of the house bill, that he says he doesn't like.

 

In case you need a reminder:

 

https://twitter.com/Lis_Smith/status/874740645738541058

 

 

Like yeah, great. You want to make this bill marginally less terrible. Maybe you should try to be more involved in the drafting of the legislation. Just because you don't have a vote doesn't mean you can't be involved in the process of ironing things out. Obama certainly put the work in to get a bill through.

 

I'm not giving Trump credit for the optics. If he genuinely cared about health care, he would've done so much more than this half-assed criticism.

 

Obama put work in? To do what, exactly? Make sure people could keep their doctors if they wanted? To ensure premiums wouldn't skyrocket? To ensure that insurers wouldn't completely abandon the program (Iowa is set to be the first state to have no companies insure people under Obamacare in 2018). To make HUNDREDS of concessions to Republicans along the way?

 

Secondly, Obama didn't really spend a lot of time on each individual thing Obamacare did. he had overarching goals that he wanted to see completed and he let congress handle the the form it took and the details. As President, if you try handling every detail of a bill.. You are going to slog it down, piss people off in Congress, and probably not get much of anything done.I think Clinton showed him exactly how being too involved "worked". Obama, also let both the house and senate do their own things before taking the two ideas and merging them into one massive bill.

 

Thirdly how hard do you really need to work when your bill passes the Senate with a single republican vote? He had the support he needed, at least in that body, to get whatever passed he wanted. It didn't take "hard work" to get that done.

 

Obama didn't work hard... he worked smart and used the failure of his predecessor(s) as a lesson on how to navigate passage of massive legislation. Big difference.

[blotsfan 2,112]

Awww yeah. We're doing the Blotsfan Breakdown™ for this one.

Obama put work in? To do what, exactly? Make sure people could keep their doctors if they wanted? To ensure premiums wouldn't skyrocket? To ensure that insurers wouldn't completely abandon the program (Iowa is set to be the first state to have no companies insure people under Obamacare in 2018). To make HUNDREDS of concessions to Republicans along the way?

"You can keep your doctor" was a dumb claim. Literally any change to health care in any way will cause changes for some people. Thats common sense. It was a dumb soundbite, but taken way out of proportion. Premiums under Obamacare have gone up, but insurance costs are still less than they would be without it (as evidenced by the massive spike from Trumpcare). Obamacare isn't perfect, but its sure better than what we had before it. And companies are abandoning the program because trump isn't promising to pay the subsidies. They are intentionally undermining the program to make it look worse. A decent political strategy, but peoples' lives are on the line so that's kinda shitty.

Secondly, Obama didn't really spend a lot of time on each individual thing Obamacare did. he had overarching goals that he wanted to see completed and he let congress handle the the form it took and the details. As President, if you try handling every detail of a bill.. You are going to slog it down, piss people off in Congress, and probably not get much of anything done.I think Clinton showed him exactly how being too involved "worked". Obama, also let both the house and senate do their own things before taking the two ideas and merging them into one massive bill.

The point is that he had a plan and was definitely in meetings with senators and congressmen about getting it workable. Yes he didn't write every piece of legislation, but he made getting a bill done a priority. Do you think Trump was in a single meeting about the specifics of the plan while the bill was going through the house? If so, why did he immediately go back on his promise not to cut medicare (ok thats obvious).

Thirdly how hard do you really need to work when your bill passes the Senate with a single republican vote? He had the support he needed, at least in that body, to get whatever passed he wanted. It didn't take "hard work" to get that done.

The democrats weren't 100% united on what they wanted in that bill. Same reason the republican bill hasn't passed yet and had trouble in the house.

Obama didn't work hard... he worked smart and used the failure of his predecessor(s) as a lesson on how to navigate passage of massive legislation. Big difference.

This is literally meaningless.

 

 

I hope you enjoyed this round of Blotsfan Breakdown™ Tune in next time Favre talks about how he doesn't like Trump but still somehow manages to defend literally everything he does.

[Favre4Ever+ 4,476]

I can't speak for every state, but the companies in the exchange here in Iowa have been threatening to pull out since before Trump even sniffed the Presidency -- so blaming Trump squarely is ignorant and misinformed. Not enough

 

After implementation of the ACA, even with the mandate, enrollment wasn't what it needed to be to keep insurers enticed to keep putting up with the terrible legislation. They were still making money, but not the kinds Obama promised them (their margins increased by nearly 10% after passage of ACA). That's part of the reason why premiums kept going UP, UP, and UP... Insurers were trying to make up their "losses" (not as big gains as they were used to at the beginning).

 

Problems have popped up here and there since the legislation was enacted, with both the President (whom you worship) and congress doing nothing to respond. They allowed problems to grow, snowball, and become worse than they should have been.

 

I am not saying Trump doesn't have culpability. he isn't helping or easing the minds of insurers...Too bad Obama didn't address those problems to begin with and maybe Trump couldn't be given such a grand platform to screw us over even more.

 

The fact that he wants to make the house healthcare bill even slightly better is a victory... You pretend to care about poor people, but when Trump makes it clear to the GOP that they need to help poor people more -- you dismiss it completely.

 

Politics isn't a have your cake and eat it too kinda business.

 

Also, touting Obama for his political deal making isn't exactly something to be proud of. I remember back when he said he'd have all those meetings, negotiations, etc televised... Too many back room deals to keep that promise. He and his team brokered a deal with lobbyists from hospitals to the tune of 150 BILLION DOLLARS. Not to mention Obama ordering that union contracts be exempt from the Cadillac Tax. A dozen states or so were given special treatment (in the form of billions of dollars other states will never sniff)... He cut huge deals with lobbies from big pharma, promising them that it wouldn't cost them a penny over $80B in order to gain their support.

 

The bill probably would have been better if Obama stayed out of it even more. Massive concessions to every major lobby in the country to screw over the little guys is NOT something to be proud of. It's disgusting... "Better than what we had before" ... But was it really?

 

Insurance companies.. Hospitals... Big Pharma.. Individual politicians who cut deals with Obama to get their votes? Yeah.. I bet they love your train of thought. It's House of Cards minus the murder.

 

Take the small victories you get from Trump and enjoy them, because there probably won't be many.

[OSUViking 505]

Simple solution: destroy the health insurance industry and lock up everyone on their boards. Redistribute the wealth.

 

Socialism, fuck yeah

[Cherry 1,302]

Simple solution: destroy the health insurance industry and lock up everyone on their boards. Redistribute the wealth.

 

Socialism, fuck yeah

 

This would inevitably result in the deaths of a lot of people who are perceived to be capitalist elites. It's fucking stupid, and I can't believe anyone can actually get behind this idea.

 

There are way better ways to handle health insurance rather than jailing people and taking all of their stuff.

[Omerta+ 1,206]

 

This would inevitably result in the deaths of a lot of people who are perceived to be capitalist elites. It's fucking stupid, and I can't believe anyone can actually get behind this idea.

 

There are way better ways to handle health insurance rather than jailing people and taking all of their stuff.

 

 

It worked for iceland.

[seanbrock 1,684]

 

This would inevitably result in the deaths of a lot of people who are perceived to be capitalist elites. It's fucking stupid, and I can't believe anyone can actually get behind this idea.

 

There are way better ways to handle health insurance rather than jailing people and taking all of their stuff.

This just makes me like the idea even more. Especially when they're lobbying to try and kill thousands of people who are far less privileged than they so they can keep a little bit more of their wealth. Somebody who signs off the death of children to enrich themselves deserves far far worse than death.

[OSUViking 505]

 

This would inevitably result in the deaths of a lot of people who are perceived to be capitalist elites. It's fucking stupid, and I can't believe anyone can actually get behind this idea.

 

There are way better ways to handle health insurance rather than jailing people and taking all of their stuff.

Lol I was joking

 

I won't go as far as saying anyone deserves death, but Sean is right. These people do not care in the slightest what happens to poor people. Which is their own choice, but it's pathetic. What the hell does someone with $500 million dollars need with more money? Seriously, people can live very very very comfortably the rest of their lives off of as "little" as something like 5-10 million. I absolutely do not care if they decide that's not enough. That's their problem. Tax the rich and make them pay for shit. I'm tired of hearing people defend them.

Edited June 14, 2017 by OSUViking

[Omerta+ 1,206]

Lol I was joking

Thats too bad. I'll say it, I think it is an outstanding idea.

[seanbrock 1,684]

While we're at we can lock up all the bankers who committed fraud and crashed the economy. Millions lost everything they had. A lot of people committed suicide and these guys get a bonus. Unfortunately they can't be put to death for it but they could probably be locked up for their entire lives if all the counts of fraud are run consecutively.

[OSUViking 505]

Thats too bad. I'll say it, I think it is an outstanding idea.

Rounding people up is extreme for me. Itd have drastic short term consequences but I don't give a flying fuck if the big dogs in the health industry got what they deserve. I also edited that response to Cherry to clarify my stance.

[blotsfan 2,112]

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

[seanbrock 1,684]

Rounding people up is extreme for me. Itd have drastic short term consequences but I don't give a flying fuck if the big dogs in the health industry got what they deserve. I also edited that response to Cherry to clarify my stance.

Why? Their actions have caused and will cause a lot of people to die and they absolutely know it. I would argue that it's first degree murder.

 

 

 

First-degree murder: any intentional murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought. Felony murder is typically first-degree.

[blotsfan 2,112]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/874991696186142721