FartWaffles 1,857 Posted August 24, 2015 http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5463/brian-hoyer NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Texans have named Brian Hoyer as their starting quarterback. Coach Bill O'Brien declined to name a starter on Sunday, saying he did not have a timetable for a decision. As it turns out, NFL coaches lie. Hoyer has completed 9-of-15 passes for 119 yards and a touchdown this preseason, though most of that yardage came on one big play to Cecil Shorts in the opening game. His play has been shaky, but Ryan Mallett did nothing to apply pressure in the battle. Hoyer will open the season as the starter, but it would not be shocking if Mallett sees starts this year as well. Hoyer the Destroyer time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted August 24, 2015 The right choice was made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted August 24, 2015 The right choice was made. That's the problem. Any time Hoyer is the right choice, your team is in a terrible predicament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted August 24, 2015 The right choice was made. wait, there was a right choice to make? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted August 24, 2015 If Brian Hoyer is wrong, I don't want to be right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56AceInDaPlace 110 Posted August 24, 2015 Guess Mallet didn't step his game up from being behind Tom Brady. Coming out of college he had a big arm but that was it. Hoyer would give them the best chance to win. But not to the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.AirMcNair. 1,232 Posted August 24, 2015 Zach Mettenberger is available for a 1st and JJ Watt. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Zach Mettenberger is available for a 1st and JJ Watt. hell, I'd deal him for Watt straight up, no need to get greedy Edited August 24, 2015 by oochymp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted August 24, 2015 This is fucking dumb. Mallet is better, and has a much higher ceiling. Brian Hoyer is a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparty 110 Posted August 24, 2015 I would say I'm excited, but I don't want to get attacked for it..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted August 24, 2015 This is fucking dumb. Mallet is better, and has a much higher ceiling. What good is having a higher ceiling, if the player will never reach it? Mallett is the definition of inconsistency. It's not that Hoyer is so much better than Mallett, but that Hoyer is more dependable to not make the head-scratching mistakes that ends up putting the offense behind schedule. O'Brien simply trusts Hoyer more to run the offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted August 24, 2015 They shoulda just kept Fitz if they were gonna chose between all these bad choices. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted August 24, 2015 Scott Tolzein is available. Just letting you Texans know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted August 25, 2015 They shoulda just kept Fitz if they were gonna chose between all these bad choices. Lol. Last year if you watched the offense when Fitz was under center compared to Mallett, you could tell that the offense ran a lot smoother and quicker when Mallett was the starter. I don't know if another year in the system would've benefited Fitz or not, but everyone covering the Texans in training camp has said that the offense looks night and day better than what it looked like last year with Fitz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted August 25, 2015 What good is having a higher ceiling, if the player will never reach it? Mallett is the definition of inconsistency. It's not that Hoyer is so much better than Mallett, but that Hoyer is more dependable to not make the head-scratching mistakes that ends up putting the offense behind schedule. O'Brien simply trusts Hoyer more to run the offense. Which is trusting in mediocrity as opposed to believing you and your offensive coaches can take a big-armed, prototypical quarterback and turn him into a quality NFL starter. This is coaching cowardice on the Texans' part, imo. Their jobs aren't on the line yet. Play the guy who has a chance to lead you to 10 or more wins if he proves himself, not the guy who you'll be lucky to sniff .500 with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted August 25, 2015 Which is trusting in mediocrity as opposed to believing you and your offensive coaches can take a big-armed, prototypical quarterback and turn him into a quality NFL starter. This is coaching cowardice on the Texans' part, imo. Their jobs aren't on the line yet. Play the guy who has a chance to lead you to 10 or more wins if he proves himself, not the guy who you'll be lucky to sniff .500 with. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I guess as a Texans fan I just have to sit back and trust the decision that O'Brien has made. Most Texans fans (myself included) wanted Mallett to be named the starter. The one thing that bothered me about Mallett though, was during this preseason he was clearly playing scared to make any mistakes and that "big-armed" quarterback might as well have been popgun Matt Schaub doing his best Captain Checkdown impression. You can say whatever you want about Mallett's ceiling, but you can't argue that he was outplayed by Hoyer this training camp. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted August 25, 2015 Which is trusting in mediocrity as opposed to believing you and your offensive coaches can take a big-armed, prototypical quarterback and turn him into a quality NFL starter. This is coaching cowardice on the Texans' part, imo. Their jobs aren't on the line yet. Play the guy who has a chance to lead you to 10 or more wins if he proves himself, not the guy who you'll be lucky to sniff .500 with. playing the safe option when your team is very solid everywhere else isn't a bad option, I mean hell, if Trent Dilfer could win a Super Bowl why can't Hoyer at least get the Texans into the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bay 2,003 Posted August 31, 2015 Am I alone in thinking Tom Savage could be an effective starter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted August 31, 2015 Am I alone in thinking Tom Savage could be an effective starter? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vin+ 3,121 Posted September 16, 2015 The Texans will start Ryan Mallett at quarterback Week 2 against the Panthers. This news comes just minutes after both Texans beat writers, John McClain and Tania Ganguli, reported they would be "shocked" if Brian Hoyer didn't get the start against Carolina. Neither is much of an upgrade on the other. Mallett replaced a benched Hoyer midway through the fourth quarter of Week 1 and went 8-of-14 passing for 98 yards and a touchdown. The game was already well over, so we're not going to read too much into those numbers. But we already know what Hoyer is, and that's a mediocre, turnover-prone, weak-armed glorified backup. Mallett at least has tons of arm talent with the ability to drive the ball. Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter I thought I had said something in this thread about the Texans needing to stick with one guy and not vacillate. Guess not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted September 17, 2015 I must admit I'm pretty surprised O'Brien is making the change. Not because Hoyer looked like Garo Yepremian out there against the Chiefs, but seeing a head coach admitting they made a mistake in a huge decision like the starting quarterback after just three and a half quarters is rare considering how stubborn and egocentric most coaches are in his position. Hoyer is kinda drawing the short straw in this situation. Had Foster been healthy, the Chiefs defense would've had to respect the run, instead they pinned their ears back and made Hoyer their personal tackling dummy. Mallett is just better suited in this offense when Foster is not around. Mallett gets rid of the ball much faster and has better pocket presence, but he has his fair share of warts to his game as well. He may have the worst touch on his passes than any professional quarterback I have ever seen. He only knows how to throw fastballs even in the most unnecessary moments to be doing so. Anyways this should be fun, I guess... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vin+ 3,121 Posted October 5, 2015 The Texans are sticking with Ryan Mallett at quarterback. Mallett has played as poorly as a quarterback can play this season, but coach Bill O'Brien knows Brian Hoyer offers similarly little hope. Still, a mid-game benching for Mallett seems more likely than not against the Colts on Thursday. Mallett simply has zero feel for what an NFL quarterback is supposed to do. Both Hoyer and Mallett are turnover machines, but Hoyer has a (slightly) better overall game. Source: Drew Dougherty on Twitter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted October 27, 2015 Houston Texans release QB Ryan Mallett The Houston Texans have released backup quarterback Ryan Mallett and are planning to bring back quarterback T.J. Yates, who is currently a free agent, sources told ESPN on Tuesday. Mallett was late for meetings Saturday, blaming his tardiness on traffic. He then missed the team's charter flight to South Florida. He had to fly commercial to join the team for Sunday's game against the Dolphins and did not play. Sources told ESPN on Monday that coach Bill O'Brien was upset over Saturday's incident and initially wanted to release him right away, but a consensus was reached that the team should wait rather than go into a game with only one active quarterback. It was the second known time Mallett was late for a team activity. He had missed a practice just two days after Brian Hoyer was named the team's starting quarterback for the season opener. In a scene shown on HBO's "Hard Knocks," Mallett told Texans general manager Rick Smith he missed the practice because he overslept, he bought an alarm clock and nothing like that would ever happen again. right before we play them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GA_Eagle 595 Posted October 27, 2015 Wishing would go with Sanchez over Sadford at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted October 27, 2015 right before we play them Hoyer was going to be the starter anyways, so I don't see how that is relevant. As far as Mallett goes, good riddance. I don't mind a QB being upset over a demotion, but he went full-on pouty crybaby over it. The NFL is a man's sport. Hopefully this sinks in and he grows the fuck up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites