Cherry 1,302 Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) These picks will be made with a mixture of the talent I see in guys and the general media opinions. I've looked at each depth chart for every pick trying to find what best suits teams and where guys might land due to a mixture of need + BPA. I've added a little blurb beneath each pick to explain my line of thinking. Happy to answer questions. 1. Jalen Ramsey S/CB Florida State The only really good fit for the Titans here. He's versatile enough to fit anywhere on the secondary. I'm not high enough on a tackle to place one of them here at RT. Lewan is fine at LT. 2. Carson Wentz QB North Dakota State The obvious pick. The Browns want a QB and the Wentz train is rolling right now. 3. Laremy Tunsil OT (RT) Ole Miss I'm not a big fan of Tunsil personally, but he has a lot of upside and the Chargers need a better and more athletic RT. The other option here was Treadwell, but I don't think he goes that early. 4. Jared Goff QB Cal Romo will remain the starter for another year or two, but the Cowboys are in the perfect position to draft for the future. They'd probably prefer Wentz, but Goff is a fine choice as a replacement for Romo. Paxton Lynch is also in play here, given his higher upside. 5. Myles Jack ILB/OLB/S (OLB) UCLA I honestly don't see where Jack would fit in here other than taking over for Skuta. With that said he can play all over the defense and can be a starter from safety to defensive end. I don't think the knee issues will scare off the Jags. 6. Laquon Treadwell WR Ole Miss I hesitated on who to put here. The Ravens are going to need a tackle soon with Eugene Monroe potentially gone in a year or so, but I think they'll take a much more needed position here. The Ravens are rolling out Steve Smith and Breshad Perriman, but behind that they have a complete pile of trash. Treadwell will give Flacco a much needed target and become the replacement for Steve Smith. 7. Paxton Lynch QB Memphis The 49ers need a quarterback with Kaepernick on his way out. If Chip rolls out Gabbert to start the year he has officially lost his mind, so I expect them to make a move for Lynch with the other two big quarterbacks off the board. 8. Vernon Hargreaves III CB Florida The two main options here were Jaylon Smith and Hargreaves. The Dolphins desperately need help at CB, much more so than the washed up LB corps they have. If Jaylon is healthy it's a no-brainer, but he is still pretty questionable with that knee. I think Miami will go with the day one starter here. 9. Noah Spence DE Eastern Kentucky One of the best pure pass-rushers in this draft class, and arguably a top five pick without the issues off the field. I think Tampa will be happy to take him here, given the need on the defensive line. A safety or corner here would be great, but nobody really stands out. The Bucs could trade back out of this if Spence is gone. 10. DeForest Buckner DE Oregon With Jaylon Smith falling out of the first round due to the knee issues (RIP) the Giants will look to upgrade along the D-line with a lack of secondary players available. Buckner is a monstrous dude and will fit well on the Giants line. Thus continues the tradition of stacking the Giants pass rush. 11. Ronnie Stanley OT Notre Dame Stanley has absolutely no reason to fall this far by his own talent. I have a great grade on him, but I don't think teams lower on the totem pole want him as much. Nearly all the teams in the top 10 have their guy at LT, and I doubt they budge to pick up Stanley. The Bears will replace Leno with a potential all-pro. 12. A'Shawn Robinson DT Alabama The Saints need a lot of help in their front seven and I don't see any better options than Robinson. Only Shaq Lawson really stands out as a guy they might take instead. It's really just a 50-50 between those two and I think they settle on Robinson. 13. Mackensie Alexander CB Clemson Eagles need secondary help ASAP. Personally I'd like to take Karl Joseph but there is no way the Eagles reach that far. Alexander is the best secondary option here by your normal media scouts. 14. Joey Bosa DE Ohio State Bosa fall ends right here. Raiders need someone to shore up the line that just lost Justin Tuck. Personally I'm unsure where Bosa would fit in an NFL scheme, but I think the Raiders will find a niche for him, just like they did for Khalil Mack. 15. Shaq Lawson DE Clemson With the QBs off the board, the Rams need to address the loss of Chris Long. Lawson is a fine starter from day one as a 4-3 DE and will do a solid job of replacing Long. Darron Lee is an option here, but I have Lawson rated higher up on the board. 16. Robert Nkemdiche DT Ole Miss Tyrunn Walker and the fading Haloti Ngata aren't good enough to replace what Suh and Fairley brought to the table. Nkemdiche will start from day one and be a huge piece of a pass rush that gets stronger every day. Ansah and Nkemdiche together would be downright nasty. 17. Taylor Decker OT Ohio State The Falcons need someone better than Ryan Schraeder manning the right side if they want to keep Matt Ryan safe and give Freeman the room he needs to run. Enter Taylor Decker. One of the best technical linemen in this draft, he's going to step in and be good from start. He's not a superstar but he'll get the job done for a swiss cheese Falcons line. 18. Ezekial Elliot RB Ohio State I'm personally not a fan of Zeke but the majority of people see him as a first rounder. If the Colts don't sign Martin or Forte, I think they'll continue the tradition of taking skill positions guys that don't necessarily help the issues with their team. 19. Emmanuel Ogbah DE Oklahoma State I hate Ogbah. But I'll accept the idea that many people see him as a late first and put him somewhere that needs him. With Mario Williams likely gone, Ogbah would step in and start from day one on the Bills defensive line. He's not a playmaker, but he'll hold his own on that powerful line. He'll have plenty of help. 20. Reggie Ragland ILB Alabama Shoutout to the Ragland callouts. Ragland is a top 15 talent that will be a great future replacement for David Harris. He fits what the Jets do by building first on defense, and makes sense as the heir to the inside of mean green. 21. Darron Lee LB Ohio State I'll be honest, the Skins could do damn near anything with the pick. They need help in almost every single position imaginable, but I think they'll try to bolster their weak LB group. A safety or corner also makes sense here. 22. Corey Coleman WR Baylor The Texans need a legitimate threat across from Hopkins. Coleman isn't a beast on his own, but when he has someone drawing away the best corner he can be electric. He has a lot of upside, but tends to quit on routes and play poorly outside of catch and run. I think he's still worth the pick here. 23. Michael Thomas WR Ohio State The Vikings are a very complete team when you step back and look at them. There are no truly glaring needs outside of WR and interior O-line. Thomas is a very underrated receiver who can become a #1 receiver from the jump. I think the Vikings happily take him here. 24. Darian Thompson S Boise State With the loss of either George Iloka or Reggie Nelson imminent, the Bengals need a day one starter to fill out the back end of the secondary. I'm assuming they keep Iloka and let the much older Nelson walk. It's the center of the Bengals secondary, and the position carries a lot of weight, so the Bengals will spend a high pick to get a guy that can hold it down where Reggie once did. 25. Vonn Bell S Ohio State Mike Mitchell is an average starter, but Will Allen can be upgraded on immediately. I prefer Karl Joseph personally, but Bell is a solid pick here. Darian Thompson is also an option, but he seems to be more of a FS. 26. Ryan Kelly C Alabama Ryan Kelly is an immediate upgrade Patrick Lewis and Lemuel Jeanpierre. The Hawks just need to plug up a couple holes and they'll be fine for next year. 27. Sheldon Rankins DT Louisville Just looking at the roster, I'd say my early favorite to win the super bowl next year is the Packers. This team is built to last and stacked through and through. The only concern is the interior D-line, and Rankins should fill that hole pretty well. 28. Braxton Miller WR Ohio State I think Braxton will tear the combine up pretty easily, and it will vault him forward into first round discussion. He'll be a great tool for a talent depleted Chiefs offense. Whether it's lining up outside or running from a trick formation he'll be a swiss army knife that the Chiefs need badly. 29. Eli Apple CB Ohio State I'm personally not a big Apple fan, but I can see the appeal here for the Cardinals. There aren't too many big guys left that can take over Peters spot immediately, and the class seems to have a lot of depth later on at guard. 30. Will Fuller WR Notre Dame Will Fuller has absolutely lit up the combine and pushed himself into first round talks. I think the Panthers will look to draft a future OT in the second or third round of the draft, but the need at WR is a lot more glaring. Until the Panthers ran into the meat grinder that is the Denver defense, they did a pretty good job holding up against defenses in the trenches. 31. Jack Conklin OT Michigan State This team is fucking stacked. The only spot I see that needs fixed is very close to just taking BPA. (Razor caught the trolling. Damn it.) Edited February 28, 2016 by Chernobyl426 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted February 26, 2016 0/10 would not read again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 26, 2016 0/10 would not read again. Stop winning super bowls and you'll get to enjoy them more. These are for the losing fans like the Jags and Browns fans so they can continue to get their hopes up and not off themselves by May. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butta54 371 Posted February 26, 2016 At the very least....this was entertaining. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted February 26, 2016 Packers definitely need dline help, but if Ragland is available at 27, I don't think they hesitate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) At the very least....this was entertaining. Stop being passive aggressive and explain yourself. Packers definitely need dline help, but if Ragland is available at 27, I don't think they hesitate. I felt like I forgot someone in here. Could've sworn I had Ragland getting snagged somewhere. My bad. Ragland is definitely a first round talent, I just overlooked him. Replacing Darron Lee with him. Edited February 26, 2016 by Chernobyl426 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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butta54 371 Posted February 27, 2016 Passive Aggressive? Negged me for saying your Mock Draft entertained me? I said at the least its entertaining. At the most its a very brave mock draft with some logical choices stepping outside of popular opinion. But I guess it didn't come across that way 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 27, 2016 Passive Aggressive? Negged me for saying your Mock Draft entertained me? I said at the least its entertaining. At the most its a very brave mock draft with some logical choices stepping outside of popular opinion. But I guess it didn't come across that way It definitely didn't come off the way you intended. Thought you were just being a prick. I think a good majority of the people that saw the post the way I did, as well. Damn it, Butta, playing with my draft emotions and shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted February 27, 2016 If Bosa falls to Detroit and they take a flyer I would do cartwheels. I still view him as a top 5ish prospect right now. Not sure aboutique a corner going first though. Cleveland drafting Wentz would be a bad idea imo, but I guess Goff may struggle a bit playing outside in the the midwest come late November and December. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted February 27, 2016 22. Corey Coleman WR Baylor The Texans need a legitimate threat across from Hopkins. Coleman isn't a beast on his own, but when he has someone drawing away the best corner he can be electric. He has a lot of upside, but tends to quit on routes and play poorly outside of catch and run. I think he's still worth the pick here. Cherruh, what did I do to you for this!? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted February 27, 2016 ^ That may be the greatest gif I have ever not seen. This is different from most mocks I've seen, but I respect it because I know you watch a lot of film on these guys and already have a good grasp of the NFL as it is. I really don't know much about Buckner besides the fact people rant and rave about him. I'm strictly an SEC guy so I'm not really sure to be excited or sad if we got him lol. And Butta, go be a condescending cunt where people would actually give a fuck about you...I know slim pickings, but it's not here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) ^ That may be the greatest gif I have ever not seen. This is different from most mocks I've seen, but I respect it because I know you watch a lot of film on these guys and already have a good grasp of the NFL as it is. I really don't know much about Buckner besides the fact people rant and rave about him. I'm strictly an SEC guy so I'm not really sure to be excited or sad if we got him lol. And Butta, go be a condescending cunt where people would actually give a fuck about you...I know slim pickings, but it's not here. Thank you. I'm glad to explain any of the picks that I made and the reasoning behind them. I've watched film on probably about 80-85% of the guys in the mock, but a few were made solely on needs at the position and what the experts are saying. A majority of the time when a guy fell it was solely because of the teams just not being the right fit. Nkemdiche was a great example of this. I started looking at spots for Nkemdiche around pick #15 and none of the teams really worked for how I see him position wise in the NFL. Personally I'm not a giant supporter of Buckner but he has a fair amount of natural physical talent that could convert over time to the pro game. Bosa dropping was a mixture of the fact he isn't that scheme versatile and IMO he's not a top tier talent. Edited February 27, 2016 by Chernobyl426 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted February 27, 2016 Thank you. I'm glad to explain any of the picks that I made and the reasoning behind them. I've watched film on probably about 80-85% of the guys in the mock, but a few were made solely on needs at the position and what the experts are saying. A majority of the time when a guy fell it was solely because of the teams just being the right fit. Nkemdiche was a great example of this. I started looking at spots for Nkemdiche around pick #15 and none of the teams really worked for how I see him position wise in the NFL. Personally I'm not a giant supporter of Buckner but he has a fair amount of natural physical talent that could convert over time to the pro game. Bosa dropping was a mixture of the fact he isn't that scheme versatile and IMO he's not a top tier talent. So if Buckner does fall to us at 14...why do the Saints not grab him and take Robinson instead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 27, 2016 So if Buckner does fall to us at 14...why do the Saints not grab him and take Robinson instead? Part of that was it's just a 50-50 pick. I think the Saints need help at DT a little bit more than DE, but I could see them going either position with that pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) FTR the only guys I haven't watched film on are Hargreaves, Henry, Bell, Kelly, Rankins, Miller, and Thompson. Walter Football agrees with Wentz - Jack - Hargreaves - Spence - Stanley - Robinson - Thomas - Edited February 27, 2016 by Chernobyl426 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025 Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) Bosa is getting trashed a lil too much now because he was hyped so much early on, he's still a good player. He's got good hand use, long arms, strong already, we'll see his combine results hopefully and he does the explosion showing drills to see how much the jumping the count stuff (ala Bjoern Werner) helped him out. I wonder if someone plays him as a 3-tech some what would happen. He'll obviously be good against the rush on the end so maybe early down and distance have him outside then bring him in on 3rd and long. I saw him play inside some on his clips. Like y'all said 3-4 End seems very possible and right up his alley, but I think he could find a role in a 4-3 as well. His critics aren't wrong though. He's not a top top tier talent like he was hyped out to be. He can't bend around the edge in a short area like a true edge player. Reasons why Noah Spence started over him when both were at Ohio State. But he's no slouch either and is used to playing against speed he grew up in south FL, went to St. Thomas Aquinas. I think he'll be just fine in the pros and as far as perception wise as long as he doesn't get drafted too early. FTR the only guys I haven't watched film on are Kelly, Rankins, and Thompson. Watch those bros Edited February 27, 2016 by CampinWithSquatCobbler 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC 331 Posted February 27, 2016 Good show, every pick makes sense to a degree. It would be kind of a bummer to just waste our first round pick on a guy who could be there in the 2nd (and actually goes in the 3rd on walterfootball), plus there is a center from USC almost as good that should be there for a few rounds also. The first and 2nd round in our collective mock will be a tough task for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 27, 2016 Good show, every pick makes sense to a degree. It would be kind of a bummer to just waste our first round pick on a guy who could be there in the 2nd (and actually goes in the 3rd on walterfootball), plus there is a center from USC almost as good that should be there for a few rounds also. The first and 2nd round in our collective mock will be a tough task for me. It was definitely a need-based pick, and Kelly is going to be an absolutely insane center at the next level according to most people. The reason he fell at times is injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025 Posted February 27, 2016 yeah can confirm Kelly is guud, Christian Westerman isn't getting much talk but he might be the best OG in the draft too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJORN 679 Posted February 27, 2016 I'm not sure Buckner or Bosa fall that far. Bosa seems like a guy the Chargers (not me) would love at #3. Though, Buckner or Ramsey would be my favorite picks at #3. Not that Tunsil isn't a option because he definitely is and its not just for RT. We will need to replace Dunlap at LT soon anyways so picking up a guy like Tunsil or Stanley makes a lot of sense. Also, I don't see the Jets passing on Nkemdiche or Ragland for a first round TE. And Braxton Miller to the Chiefs is a damn good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure Carolina goes for a safety, unless he's BPA at that point. We have Tre Boston waiting in the wings to replace Roman Harper, so now you're upgrading on Kurt Coleman. I feel like the bigger need is to upgrade from Remmers or Oher. Carolina's philosophy has long been to take BPA though, so if there is a run on O-line early on, I wouldn't expect Carolina to reach for a prospect in that position. Edited February 27, 2016 by Thanatos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 27, 2016 I'm not sure Buckner or Bosa fall that far. Bosa seems like a guy the Chargers (not me) would love at #3. Though, Buckner or Ramsey would be my favorite picks at #3. Not that Tunsil isn't a option because he definitely is and its not just for RT. We will need to replace Dunlap at LT soon anyways so picking up a guy like Tunsil or Stanley makes a lot of sense. Also, I don't see the Jets passing on Nkemdiche or Ragland for a first round TE. And Braxton Miller to the Chiefs is a damn good idea. Bosa falling is partly just because I don't see teams biting on the hype that early. Also I don't know exactly where he'd fit into the Chargers DL. I skimmed the depth chart when I made the pick and RT stood out along with WR and S. Only Ramsey makes sense as a DB there and it's way too early for Treadwell. The Chargers are in a very peculiar position at #3, I'll give it that. Buckner falling was mainly the fact there were better picks to be made. With Jaylon out for the year I'd probably move Buckner to #10, and Bosa to the Raiders. Nkemdiche would be a tough fit for that defense, from what I'm anticipating. That's part of why he fell so far. A lot of the teams in that range are 3-4 defenses that I can't imagine Nkemdiche working in. He seems like an inside pass rusher in a 4-3, not a versatile 3-4 guy. Ragland I skipped over for some reason (I glanced at him to the Raiders then forgot about him) but I could see the Jets making a play for him. Demario Davis and David Harris aren't bad, but he could be a good future replacement for Harris in a year or two. Thanks, I was trying to get a feel for what the Chiefs really need. With Will Fuller having a monstrous combine I could see them taking him there, but Braxton has a shitload of upside and versatility. They need an offensive weapon and Braxton is many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 27, 2016 I'm not sure Carolina goes for a safety, unless he's BPA at that point. We have Tre Boston waiting in the wings to replace Roman Harper, so now you're upgrading on Kurt Coleman. I feel like the bigger need is to upgrade from Remmers or Oher. Carolina's philosophy has long been to take BPA though, so if there is a run on O-line early on, I wouldn't expect Carolina to reach for a prospect in that position. I was looking mainly at starters when I was making picks, so I didn't pay much mind to Tre Boston. I considered a tackle there and Jack Conklin made some sense, but from my knowledge Kurt Coleman is pretty meh. I'd probably replace Thompson with Fuller now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted February 27, 2016 Updates after the Jaylon Smith info + Will Fuller's combine! The Giants take DeForest Buckner at #10. This causes the Bosa fall to only make it to #14 where he is snagged by the Raiders. The Lions take Robert Nkemdiche, as he is arguably BPA and fits a decent need at DT. Because of this, the Bengals select Darian Thompson at #24, and the Panthers select Will Fuller at #30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites