Vin+ 3,121 Posted April 16, 2014 So I think it's about time we finish up our "Greatest Rock" series by finishing up with vocalists. We've already done guitarists (Jimi Hendrix), bassists (Chris Squire), and while the drummers topic never really got off the ground, everyone knows Neil Peart was gonna win anyway. So that leaves us with vocalists remaining. Some questions before we start: 1. Do we even want to do this? I though it might be a fun time-killer, but all of them since the original guitarist thread have gotten less and less action, with the drummer topic not even getting off the ground. Though with the drummer tourney, when you've only got a couple guys that have a legit chance at winning it, that kinda stifles discussion, IMO. 2. How do we want to classify this? Do we just want to do rock/metal? Open it up to every genre? Just do frontmen only? (just so Dave Mustaine and his silly voice can get a nod) What do? I had more questions, but my memory is apparently awful and I don't remember what they were. So, yeah. Thoughts? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLUj-jh_UyQ still don't know how to post vids lol but I think Layne Staley deserves mention. Edited April 16, 2014 by seanbrock 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bay 2,003 Posted April 16, 2014 Iggy Pop and Alice Cooper were great frontmen, not great singers. Just wanted to state that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted April 16, 2014 Winston McCall. But knowing you elitists he'd never win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theMileHighGuy 656 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Steve Perry. Dude can do stuff vocally that normal men can't do. If not him, I put Freddy Mercury right up there. Edited April 16, 2014 by theMileHighGuy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted April 16, 2014 Eddie Vedder, Chris Cornell, Layne Staley. You know, the truly talented singers of the big 4 of grunge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bay 2,003 Posted April 16, 2014 Eddie Vedder, Chris Cornell, Layne Staley. You know, the truly talented singers of the big 4 of grunge. I love Nirvana but I agree. Also laugh my ass of when I see Cobain on guitar lists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vin+ 3,121 Posted April 16, 2014 None of these posts answered my questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted April 16, 2014 1. Yes, we should do it. 2. We should just call it "rock vocalist," since that's what the guitar/bassist tournies were, but that should mean "rock" in a broad sense so as to include metal. 3. The drummer tourney would have come down to a Bonham/Peart final, and since TGP is so intelligent, Bonham would have won. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turry 755 Posted April 16, 2014 Peart>> bonham but no need for technicalities. but yes we should do this and I agree with stevo on the second point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Peart>> bonham but no need for technicalities. gtfo Vin, what I think you meant to post was something about officially crowning Chris Cornell TGP's Greatest Rock Vocalist. Edited April 16, 2014 by Zack_of_Steel 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted April 16, 2014 The only wrinkle I see in this: should we extend it to best rock "frontman" to include guys like James Hetfield? Or do guys like Hetfield count anyway since they're lead vocalists for their respective band? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted April 16, 2014 Are we honestly considering Bonham over Peart? I mean, Peart's technical skill is phenomenal, but he's not just skilled. The guy knows how to compose drum arrangements. Haven't we all heard Red Barchetta? Them verse fills. So damn catchy. And that's practically every Rush song, haha. I also nominate Myles Kennedy in the vocalist department. The only wrinkle I see in this: should we extend it to best rock "frontman" to include guys like James Hetfield? Or do guys like Hetfield count anyway since they're lead vocalists for their respective band? Those guys count, for sure. I mean, think about it. Eliminating guys who play(ed) guitar too would get rid of Cornell, Staley, Kennedy, etc. Also, I think it'd be hilarious to nominate Levon Helm, because he's both a drummer and a vocalist Also, I feel as though we should have a Greatest Songwriter thread, too, because of people like Bob Dylan. I don't particularly like Dylan, but he was a fantastic songwriter. Just couldn't carry a tune in a bucket. For the record, I would firmly believe that Bonham won for the wrong reasons if we were to choose him over Peart. The better drummer is the better drummer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bay 2,003 Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Frontman nominations: (using DDD as a guide) Mick Jagger Jim Morrison Iggy Pop Jimi Hendrix David Bowie Alice Cooper Steven Tyler Ozzy David Lee Roth Bon Scott Axl Rose Bruce Dickinson Joey Ramone Paul Stanley Joe Strummer Sting Henry Rollins Vince Neil Greatest Singer nominations: Freddie Mercury Ian Gillian Steve Perry Roger Daltrey Brad Delp (Boston) Amazing voice Brian Wilson Layne Staley Robin Zander (Cheap Trick) Edited April 16, 2014 by Bay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vin+ 3,121 Posted April 17, 2014 The only wrinkle I see in this: should we extend it to best rock "frontman" to include guys like James Hetfield? Or do guys like Hetfield count anyway since they're lead vocalists for their respective band? If we're just sticking to rock/metal, then they count already, IMO. Peart>> bonham but no need for technicalities. gtfo Vin, what I think you meant to post was something about officially crowning Chris Cornell TGP's Greatest Rock Vocalist. Unfortunately, I'm pretty much the only Cornell homer on here, and victory is going to require more than one person. If I had to guess, I'd say Freddie Mercury or Robert Plant is going to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McTater 28 Posted April 17, 2014 Frontman: Rob Zombie. Vocals: Tom Keifer. (Cinderella) I saw both of these guys within 2 weeks. Rob Zombie's show was one of the craziest things I've been to. And Tom Keifer really surprised me when he took stage. The way his voice hasn't changed at all in a little over 20 years was amazing. Cinderella was opening up for The Scorpions, and I thought Cinderella out played the Scorpions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted April 18, 2014 Frontman: Rob Zombie. Vocals: Tom Keifer. (Cinderella) I saw both of these guys within 2 weeks. Rob Zombie's show was one of the craziest things I've been to. And Tom Keifer really surprised me when he took stage. The way his voice hasn't changed at all in a little over 20 years was amazing. Cinderella was opening up for The Scorpions, and I thought Cinderella out played the Scorpions His voice hasn't changed because he was probably singing over a backing track. A lot of those 80s artists can't hit the high notes anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted April 18, 2014 Greatest Singer nominations: Freddie Mercury This. Anyone who says otherwise, needs to get their ears checked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayNic 0 Posted June 8, 2014 Freddie Mercury had a tremendous voice. He may not have been the best frontman , but he was pretty damn good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites