DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted June 21, 2011 Not a big corner guy myself, but it's definitely thread-worthy... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82067df7/article/respected-veterans-top-list-of-nfls-best-corners?module=HP_cp2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted June 21, 2011 I've never understoood how Terence Newman gets left off of these lists, but whatever. I'll take him over quite a few from #15 down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllYouNeedIsLovie 377 Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) roflGroup2 Maybe ONE of them is top 10, that's it. The hype Devin McCourty gets is unreal.Why is Brandon Flowers in group 3? Why is Asante Samuel in group 1? Pretty poor list IMO. Edited June 21, 2011 by GoodellFTL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted June 21, 2011 Finnegan is a little high, Woodson is high for my tastes but I can understand where he's at. Dunta Robinson is way too high, Winfield and Flowers are too low. Devin McCourty is not that much better than Joe Haden, but I have trouble properly placing one year stars, I'd probable drop McCourty just under Haden. Honestly this list isn't too bad, though he does a few glaring issues here and there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted June 21, 2011 Wait... he has one giant omission, Josh Wilson is nowhere to be found on this list. He's top 20 for sure, take him ahead of Dunta, TT, DRC, Ike Taylor, and any of those other guys listed 21 and lower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barracuda 629 Posted June 21, 2011 Joe "Hayden" as Kirwan calls him is better than McCourty. I hate the McCourty super hype. Anyways, Finnegan is to high, Flowers and Winfield are to low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turry 755 Posted June 21, 2011 Tillman still goes pretty much unoticed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badgers 380 Posted June 21, 2011 Williams definitely top 10, not top 5 yet. Good place for him. Woodson, probably deserves to be at the tail end of Group A. I think he did good with Packers players this time, after he put Greg Jennings at the tail end of GROUP C for WR... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.AirMcNair. 1,232 Posted June 22, 2011 Yeah, Finnegan belongs around 12-10, depending on what you look for in a CB. 6 is a good bit high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.AirMcNair. 1,232 Posted June 22, 2011 Something I saw someone point out: These aren't ranked..just tiered. The rankings are just them listed in alphabetical order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westbrookforsix 28 Posted June 22, 2011 roflGroup2 Maybe ONE of them is top 10, that's it. The hype Devin McCourty gets is unreal.Why is Brandon Flowers in group 3? Why is Asante Samuel in group 1? Pretty poor list IMO. Asante definitely is in the top tier of NFL corners. His ball skills, route reading intelligence, and agility are definitely up there with the best of the best. His ball skills are undeniably great. He is a wall of hands standing in front of his receiver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted June 23, 2011 Wasn't aware Champ Bailey was still considered an elite CB... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted June 23, 2011 Wasn't aware Champ Bailey was still considered an elite CB... Why wouldn't he be? He shuts down opposing wideouts, and makes it looks easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted June 23, 2011 Why wouldn't he be? He shuts down opposing wideouts, and makes it looks easy. lol, idk the #s or anything, so idk how well he performed this past year. It just seems like he gets lost nowadays in the CB talks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted June 23, 2011 He's just getting older so people expect him to drop off, but he really hasn't that much. Champ's game was never about pure speed (he is fast though), It's about reading receivers like a book and beating them to the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socal 524 Posted June 23, 2011 Call me a homer but where the fuck is Quentin Jammer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krawnka 282 Posted June 23, 2011 According to his comments, Flowers sounds better than a few grouped above him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted June 23, 2011 Dunta is really all not that bad of a corner..but I'd still put Grimes above him even though so many QB's picked on him this year after a terrible season a year ago. Fact is, Grimes is small, but he makes up for it with his smartness and athletic ability..Dunta is good as well..he just seems to have trouble in zone coverage...the real problem with our defense is the way we scheme our blitz/pressure packages. Too simple, and it really exploits our secondary that isn't all that bad, and makes them look worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted June 23, 2011 Found what I was talking about earlier. lol. According to FO he had a 52% success rate against, and gave up 7.9 ypa... Those are good numbers, but are they really top of the league coverage #s? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bay 2,003 Posted June 24, 2011 For a guy who was born in 1978 it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted June 24, 2011 Who does FO have ahead of him? Because those are pretty good numbers for a cornerback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted June 25, 2011 This is FO's ish, so im not really sure how it compares with others'... But for player with at least 40 passes thrown their way, they have the following players for success rate -in order... Revis, Winfield, Routt, Williams, Bartell, Sean Smith, Biggers, Hanson, Cromartie, Carr. and in yards per pass... Winfield, Hansen, Justin Tryon, Grimes, Bartell, Arenas, McCourty, Barber, Williams, Powers. Like I said, idk which corners performed how well, but these were coverage #s according to FO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
