Official TGP 2012 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

[BLUE 1,026]

 

Well, we're only hours away from the biggest offseason event in the NFL and at TGP!

 

This thread is for in-draft discussion, debate or anything else draft-related during the big night!

 

2012 Round 1 Draft Order and Picks:

 

1 Indianapolis Colts - QB Andrew Luck Stanford

2 Washington Redskins (from Rams) - QB Robert Griffin III Baylor

3 Cleveland Browns (from Vikings) - RB Trent Richardson Alabama

4 Minnesota Vikings (from Browns) - OT Matt Kalil USC

5 Jacksonville Jaguars (from Buccaneers) - WR Justin Blackmon Oklahoma State

6 Dallas Cowboys (from Redskins through Rams) - CB Morris Claiborne LSU

7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from Jaguars) - SS Mark Barron Alabama

8 Miami Dolphins - QB Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M

9 Carolina Panthers - ILB Luke Kuechly Boston College

10 Buffalo Bills - CB Stephon Gilmore South Carolina

11 Kansas City Chiefs - DT Dontari Poe Memphis

12 Philadelphia Eagles (from Seahawks) - DT Fletcher Cox Mississippi State

13 Arizona Cardinals - WR Michael Floyd Notre Dame

14 Rams (from Cowboys) - DT Michael Brocckers LSU

15 Seattle Seahawks (from Eagles) DE Bruce Irvin West Virginia

16 New York Jets - DE Quinton Coples North Carolina

17 Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland Raiders) - CB Dre Kirkpatrick Alabama

18 San Diego Chargers - DE Melvin Ingram South Carolina

19 Chicago Bears - DE Shea McClellin Boise State

20 Tennessee Titans - WR Kendall Wright Baylor

21 New England Patriots (from Bengals) - DE Chandler Jones Syracuse

22 Cleveland Browns (from Falcons) - QB Brandon Weeden Oklahoma State

23 Detroit Lions - OT Riley Reiff Iowa

24 Pittsburgh Steelers - G David DeCastro Stanford

25 Patriots (from Broncos) - ILB Dont'a Hightower Alabama

26 Houston Texans - OLB Whitney Mercilus Illinois

27 Cincinnati Bengals (from Saints through Patriots) - G Kevin Zeitler Wisconsin

28 Green Bay Packers - OLB Nick Perry USC

29 Minnesota Vikings (from Ravens) - FS Harrison Smith Notre Dame

30 San Francisco 49ers - WR A.J. Jenkins Illinois

31 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from Patriots through Broncos) - RB Doug Martin Boise State

32 New York Giants - RB David Wilson Virginia Tech

Edited April 27, 2012 by BLUE

[KiLaSix9+ 398]

Three scenarios I'd be happy with tonight:

 

1) Bucs take Claiborne #5 overall.

2) Bucs trade up with Minnesota and take Richardson #3 overall.

3) Bucs trade down with Buffalo and take Kuechly #10 overall.

 

I hadn't thought about it too much until recently but getting a guy like Kuechly along with more picks could end up being one of the best moves in the draft.

[AllYouNeedIsLovie 377]

Three scenarios I'd be happy with tonight:

 

1) Bucs take Claiborne #5 overall.

2) Bucs trade up with Minnesota and take Richardson #3 overall.

3) Bucs trade down with Buffalo and take Kuechly #10 overall.

 

I hadn't thought about it too much until recently but getting a guy like Kuechly along with more picks could end up being one of the best moves in the draft.

 

1 and 3 I agree, but 2 would be a nightmare IMO. My number one option is to try and trade down with Buffalo because they want to trade up for Kalil and I'm hearing the Vikings want Claiborne. We get the best LB in the draft and more draft picks. It's a win-win situation.

[Bay 2,003]

4 and a half hour post.

 

Imma post every chance I get for the countdown

[AllYouNeedIsLovie 377]

4 and a half hour post.

 

Imma post every chance I get for the countdown

 

It's almost time. I cannot wait. I've been so hyped the entire day.

[KiLaSix9+ 398]

1 and 3 I agree, but 2 would be a nightmare IMO. My number one option is to try and trade down with Buffalo because they want to trade up for Kalil and I'm hearing the Vikings want Claiborne. We get the best LB in the draft and more draft picks. It's a win-win situation.

I was never a fan of taking Trent but the more I've thought about it, he could end up being a special home-run type of guy. Would it really matter if we gave up a 3rd and 4th if this guy ends up being THAT good?

 

Again, it's not my dream scenario, I'd just be happy if it happened.

[BLUE 1,026]

Per Rotoworld.com:

 

Adam Schefter reported on ESPN's SportsCenter draft special Thursday that the Jaguars have "made some calls to move up" with under five hours left before the first round.

The Jaguars were known to be infatuated with Trent Richardson as early as the Senior Bowl in January, although those rumors have been nonexistent of late. The player whom Jacksonville might be targeting is unclear, if it's not the Alabama back. It might also be Justin Blackmon or Mo Claiborne. Per Schefter, there are six teams that have shown interest in trading up in the draft. They are the Jags, Eagles, Patriots, Chargers, Packers, and Bills. Apr 26 - 3:21 PM

Edited April 26, 2012 by BLUE

[AllYouNeedIsLovie 377]

I was never a fan of taking Trent but the more I've thought about it, he could end up being a special home-run type of guy. Would it really matter if we gave up a 3rd and 4th if this guy ends up being THAT good?

 

Again, it's not my dream scenario, I'd just be happy if it happened.

 

If he did end up being elite, that would be great, but what is a running back good for when your defense is giving up points every possession?

[Milla4Prez63 678]

If he did end up being elite, that would be great, but what is a running back good for when your defense is giving up points every possession?

 

What 3rd rounder is going to help our defense not give up points every possession? People overvalue mid-round picks, most of those guys end up being nobodies.

[housemd 338]

Apart from Dont'a Hightower,who is our standard mock draft pick,I'd like to see us pick Dontari Poe or Cordy Glenn..

 

Poe was a top 10 pick once,his stock has fallen a little bit,and he could easily be there for our pick..

 

The most recent mock drafts show no love for Cordy Glenn..He's now predicted to be picked around 25th pick and if he's available,I say we should grab him..I'd love to see him in black and gold..

[Bay 2,003]

4 HOURS

[AllYouNeedIsLovie 377]

What 3rd rounder is going to help our defense not give up points every possession? People overvalue mid-round picks, most of those guys end up being nobodies.

 

There is a decent chance that an early 3rd round pick turns out to be a good player...

 

Plus, if we don't trade up and trade down instead, we would probably get an extra 2nd and 3rd so we could add 3-4 solid defensive players and still get a guy like Doug Martin or David Wilson.

 

Just makes no sense to me to trade up and only get Richardson when we can do trade down and get a bunch of solid players.

[SteVo+ 3,702]

Hopes for the Eagles:

 

1) Trade up for Luke Kuechly.

2) Trade up for Fletcher Cox. (Gotta get your hands on Cox.)

3) Trade up for Justin Blackmon or Michael Floyd.

4) Stay put at #15 and take Michael Brockers.

[AllYouNeedIsLovie 377]

Hopes for the Bucs:

 

1. Trade down and get Kuechly or Barron plus extra draft picks

2. Take Claiborne at #5

3. Take Richardson at #5

 

I'll be fine with:

 

1. Take Kuechly at #5

2. Take Kalil at #5

 

I'll be pissed as fuck:

 

1. Trade up for anyone

2. Take anyone but Kuechly, Kalil, Richardson or Claiborne at #5.

[Bay 2,003]

 

- Do not want a TE in the first.

- Don't really want a WR in the first either.

- Going Offensive Line would not bother me at all.

[FartWaffles 1,857]

If the Texans stay at #26, I'm guessing...

 

If they go receiver: Stephen Hill

If they go rush linebacker: Shea McClellin

If they go offensive line: I'll spontaneously combust

[Milla4Prez63 678]

There is a decent chance that an early 3rd round pick turns out to be a good player...

 

Plus, if we don't trade up and trade down instead, we would probably get an extra 2nd and 3rd so we could add 3-4 solid defensive players and still get a guy like Doug Martin or David Wilson.

 

Just makes no sense to me to trade up and only get Richardson when we can do trade down and get a bunch of solid players.

 

Most 3rd rounders don't end up being worth anything. Especially Bucs' 3rd round picks, we haven't gotten a worthwhile player in the 3rd since Ronde lol.

 

If you are solid on Richardson being a big time player, you shouldn't worry about a 3rd round pick. It isn't a big deal. I'm tired of this team relying on 3rd and 4th round players having to step in right away and play big roles. We need some big time difference makers, and if Dom/Schiano are sold that is TR, GET HIM.

[NYGIANTSFLYHIGH 1]

Hopes for Giants:

 

1. Kuechly falls to Giants

2. Kuechly falls passed the Panthers/Chiefs/Seahawks/Cowboys/Eagles and we use Osi to trade with Jets

who need a Pass Rush

3. Hightower falls to Giants

4. Hightower falls passed Pitt and we dont risk he makes it to us and we move up

5. The phone systems go down after the Dolphins pick. It takes them 3 hours and 50 minutes to fix them

so the Giants can skip everyone since they would be on the clock, and select Kuechly or Hightower

Edited April 26, 2012 by NYGIANTSFLYHIGH

[SteVo+ 3,702]

Hopes for Giants:

 

1. Kuechly falls to Giants

2. Kuechly falls passed the Panthers/Chiefs/Seahawks/Cowboys/Eagles and we use Osi to trade with Jets

who need a Pass Rush

3. Hightower falls to Giants

4. Hightower falls passed Pitt and we dont risk he makes it to us and we move up

5. The phone systems go down after the Dolphins pick. It takes them 3 hours and 50 minutes to fix them

so the Giants can skip everyone since they would be on the clock, and select Kuechly or Hightower

 

[NYGIANTSFLYHIGH 1]

 

I can dream cant I? lol

[DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241]

Not surprisingly, the Lions are looking to trade up in the early 10s or trade back for more picks.

 

Probably for Barron or Gilmore. DO IT!!!!

 

I am getting too excited. >_>

[AllYouNeedIsLovie 377]

LaCanfora says the Lions are looking for Gilmore if they trade up.

[Thanatos 2,847]

I'm really not nervous at all, just excited to see who we get.

 

Rivera will pick the right guy, and he's looked into this a lot more than I have, that's for sure.

[Bay 2,003]

2.5 HOURS

Edited April 26, 2012 by BayAreaBomber

[Barracuda 629]