Mike Mayock's Top 5

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Quarterback

1. Geno Smith, West Virginia

2. Matt Barkley, USC

3. Mike Glennon, NC State

4. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse

5. Landry Jones, Oklahoma

 

Running Back

1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama

2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin

3. Andre Ellington, Clemson

4. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina

5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

 

Wide Receiver

1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee

2. Keenan Allen, Cal

3. Terrance Williams, Baylor

4. Tavon Austin, West Virginia

5. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech

 

Tight End

1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame

2. Zach Ertz, Stanford

3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State

4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati

5. Jordan Reed, Florida

 

Center

1. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin

2. Brian Schwenke, Cal

3. Barrett Jones, Alabama

4. Khaled Holmes, USC

5. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame

 

Guard

1. Chance Warmack, Alabama

2. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina

3. Larry Warford, Kentucky

4. Kyle Long, Oregon

5. Brian Winters, Kent State

 

Tackle

1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M

2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan

3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma

4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama

T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State

T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse

 

 

Defensive End

1. Bjoern Werner, Florida State

2. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M

3. Ezekiel Ansah, BYU

4. Sam Montgomery, LSU

T-5. Datone Jones, UCLA

T-5. Margus Hunt, SMU

 

Defensive Tackle

1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida

2. Star Lotulelei, Utah

3. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri

4. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina

T-5. Kawann Short, Purdue

T-5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

 

Outside linebacker

1. Dion Jordan, Oregon

2. Jarvis Jones, Georgia

3. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers

4. Barkevious Mingo, LSU

5. Arthur Brown, Kansas State

 

Inside linebacker

1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia

2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame

3. Kevin Minter, LSU

4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina

5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon

 

Cornerback

1. Dee Milliner, Alabama

2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State

3. Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State

4. Desmond Trufant, Washington

5. Jordan Poyer, Oregon State

 

Safety

1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas

2. Matt Elam, Florida

3. Johnathan Cyprien, Florida International

4. Eric Reid, LSU

5. Zeke Motta, Notre Dame

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000139744/article/precombine-position-rankings-for-2013-nfl-draft

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I was starting to think people forgot Margus Hunt actually existed.

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Looking at this list still leaves me underwhelmed about this draft class.

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Prepare your anus for Cordarrelle Patterson, NFL.

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Carolina needs to go get him.

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Larry Warford

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I was starting to think people forgot Margus Hunt actually existed.

Looks like Tarzan. Plays like Jane.

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I'll take any defensive player besides a run stuffing LB please.

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I think it'll be another pretty good draft for D-linemen and a decent one for O-linemen, but overall this is a pretty weak draft class. According to Mayock he doesn't see very much top-level talent, but there is a lot of depth for rounds 2-4.

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Some comments from Mayock...

 

NFL Network's Mike Mayock said his "jaw dropped" after studying Tennessee WR Cordarrelle Patterson on tape.

 

"The one kid I'm really interested in seeing run (at the Combine) is the Patterson kid from Tennessee," said Mayock. "You heard me say earlier I haven't seen any really explosive difference makers (in this draft); This kid's only played one year of Division-I football. And I put the tape on, my jaw dropped. And he's big. ... He's 6-foot-3, 200-plus pounds, and he flies. And he makes people miss all over the field. All I know is his ceiling could be really exciting because he's so darn raw. And I can't wait to see him run."

 

Patterson might make his case for being a top 10 if he runs well.

 

NFL Network's Mike Mayock said on the Rich Eisen Podcast that he believes the 2013 NFL Draft is as deep as it's ever been, but short on "explosive difference makers" at the top.

 

"I think we've got more depth for the first three rounds than maybe anytime you and I have ever done the draft," Mayock told Eisen. "But I'm not seeing the difference makers at the top end. Every year, we've had a quarterback or a Von Miller. I'm not seeing the explosive difference makers at the top end of this draft and I'm not sure that the fifth pick is that much better than the 20th pick. Or the 30th pick. The good news is I think there's a lot of depth here. And there are a lot of really good football players."

 

Some teams Daniel Jeremiah has spoken with feel Ohio State DT Johnathan Hankins is more likely to go at the top of the second-round than in the first.

 

Jeremiah himself gave Hankins a late first-round grade, similar to our evaluation. "Hankins has excellent functional strength and should fit in very nicely as a 3-4 defensive end at the next level," Jeremiah writes. "As a pass rusher, he relies almost solely on power to push the pocket."

 

Not Mayock's biggest fan, but I agree with most of what he said.

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Give me DeAndre Hopkins over any of those five WRs that Mayock ranked.

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Landry Jones even in the top 5 QBs? I got Warford over Cooper, Montgomery ain't in my top 5 (but then again I consider guys he put as OLB as DEs too.) Khaseem Greene over Arthur Brown? I would say the same to him putting him over Mingo too, but then again Greene is only a OLB prospect, Mingo is a DE hybrid so I'll let that slide. But I like Mingo better as a prospect than Greene I'll say that. Ogletree over Minter? Nah. Milliner as the top CB? No thanks, I got Banks lower too. Alford and Webb are in or right under my top 5. Elam as the 2nd best safety? Wow, I love Elam but no way. Big liability in coverage (being out of place.) Not having Swearinger in his top 5, especially with the overrated Eric Reid on it is unacceptable. Vaccaro, Swearinger and Cyprien are my top 3 safeties.

 

EDIT: Also forgot to mention, Jesse Williams not being in his top 5 DTs is very questionable IMO.

Edited February 19, 2013 by CampinWithGoatSampson

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Milliner as the top CB? No thanks, I got Banks lower too.

 

 

Wonder who's your top CB

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Wonder who's your top CB

 

Well, I believe in fits draft wise, so I am being biased in that I'm thinking if I were the Jags. Milliner is not a good fit for what system the Jags will run. Don't get me wrong, Milliner is solid but I wouldn't value him as the highest. There's no clear cut top CB really tho if you look at it objectively. So I guess I should of cut Mayock slack on that one.

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Post-Combine rankings:

 

http://www.nfl.com/d...-2013-nfl-draft

 

With the NFL Scouting Combine in the rearview mirror, Mike Mayock unveils the second edition of his position-by-position draft prospect rankings for the 2013 NFL Draft.

 

 

 

Quarterback

1. Geno Smith, West Virginia

2. Matt Barkley, USC

3. Mike Glennon, NC State

4. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse

5. Landry Jones, Oklahoma

 

 

Running Back

1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama

2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin

3. Andre Ellington, Clemson

4. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina

5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

 

 

Wide Receiver

1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee

2. Keenan Allen, Cal

3. Tavon Austin, West Virginia

4. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech

5. DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson

 

New entry: Hopkins

Rise: Austin (4), Patton (5)

Out: Terrance Williams, Baylor (3)

 

 

Tight End

1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame

2. Zach Ertz, Stanford

3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State

4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati

5. Vance McDonald, Rice

 

New entry: McDonald

Out: Jordan Reed, Florida (5)

 

 

Center

1. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin

2. Brian Schwenke, Cal

3. Barrett Jones, Alabama

4. Khaled Holmes, USC

5. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame

 

 

Guard

1. Chance Warmack, Alabama

2. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina

3. Larry Warford, Kentucky

4. Kyle Long, Oregon

5. Brian Winters, Kent State

 

 

 

 

Tackle

1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M

2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan

3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma

4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama

T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State

T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse

 

 

4-3 Defensive End

1. Bjoern Werner, Florida State

2. Ezekiel Ansah, BYU

3. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M

4. Sam Montgomery, LSU

5. Tank Carradine, Florida State

 

 

3-4 Defensive End

1. Star Lotulelei, Utah

2. Margus Hunt, SMU

3. Datone Jones, UCLA

4. Jesse Williams, Alabama

5. William Gholston, Michigan State

 

 

Defensive Tackle

1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida

2. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri

3. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina

4. Kawann Short, Purdue

5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

 

Rise: Richardson (3), Williams (4), Short (5)

 

 

4-3 Outside Linebacker

1. Jarvis Jones, Georgia

2. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers

3. Arthur Brown, Kansas State

4. Sio Moore, Connecticut

5. Chase Thomas, Stanford

 

 

 

 

3-4 Outside Linebacker

1. Dion Jordan, Oregon

2. Jamie Collins, Southern Miss

3. Barkevious Mingo, LSU

4. Michael Buchanan, Illinois

5. Corey Lemonier, Auburn

 

 

Inside Linebacker

1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia

2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame

3. Kevin Minter, LSU

4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina

5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon

 

 

Cornerback

1. Dee Milliner, Alabama

2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State

3. Desmond Trufant, Washington

4. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut

5. B.W. Webb, William & Mary

 

 

 

New entry: Wreh-Wilson, Webb

Rise: Trufant (4), Patton (5)

Out: Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State (3); Jordan Poyer, Oregon State (5)

 

 

Safety

1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas

2. Matt Elam, Florida

3. Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International

4. Eric Reid, LSU

5. Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse

 

New entry: Thomas

Out: Zeke Motta, Notre Dame (5)

 

Edited March 3, 2013 by Vin

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Props to him for putting BWW and Webb in his top 5 for corners. But no love for Alford? :grinno:

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Good to know I'm not the only one who's really high on Werner. He's getting massively underrated now.

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-How is Milliner not the top corner? You can put him by himself on an island and he locks down any receiver. He showed the 4.3 speed he used to stop the long ball, he has the size to jam the quick guys, and watch Notre Dame put Eifert out there against him and he shut him down completely. Only corner with day one starting ability.

 

-I think Hunt has the best natural hand technique out of any DL in the draft. I'm not saying he was super productive or always had a motor, but watching this D linemen he is the only one I see naturally running the hoop and for a 6'8 guy he can really get down and play with leverage when he wants.

 

-Overall I think this class will be really really good. I don't need the top talent at QBs to call this a strong draft class, you find more talent in middle rounds every year anyway. At the end of the day I see a number of starters coming out of this draft especially in the trenches. Linemen are too undervalued that is the only reason people are downgrading this class.

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I was wrong, this QB class really is bad.

 

NFL Network's Mike Mayock has moved Florida State's E.J. Manuel to No. 2 in his quarterback rankings, behind only West Virginia's Geno Smith and ahead of USC's Matt Barkley.

 

Mayock is plugged-in among NFL decision makers, so the move may reflect opinion around the league. "Coming out of the Combine, I felt like there was a quiet buzz among some teams," Mayock explained of Manuel. "Not just his workout. More important, they like the kid, they think he’s smart, and in the meeting rooms at night he passed that test." Mayock has NC State's Mike Glennon fourth among QBs. Syracuse's Ryan Nassib is tied for fifth with Oklahoma's Landry Jones.

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EW!!! Stop the madness!!!!

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oh lawd...

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I been waiting for him to rise up, not sure why it took so long to realize he was better then most these guys.

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Quarterback

1. Geno Smith, West Virginia

2. EJ Manuel, Florida State

3. Matt Barkley, USC

4. Mike Glennon, N.C. State

T-5. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse

T-5. Tyler Bray, Tennessee

 

New entry: Bray

Out: Landry Jones, Oklahoma (T-5)

 

Running Back

1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama

2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin

3. Christine Michael, Texas A&M

4. Andre Ellington, Clemson

T-5. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina

T-5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

 

New entry: Michael

 

Wide Receiver

1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee

2. Tavon Austin, West Virginia

3. Keenan Allen, Cal

4. DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson 5. Robert Woods, USC

 

New entry: Woods

Rise: Austin (3), Hopkins (5)

Out: Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech (4)

 

Tight End

1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame

2. Zach Ertz, Stanford

3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State

4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati

5. Vance McDonald, Rice

 

Center

1. Brian Schwenke, Cal

2. Barrett Jones, Alabama

3. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin

4. Khaled Holmes, USC

5. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame

 

Rise: Schwenke (2), Jones (3)

 

Guard

1. Chance Warmack, Alabama

2. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina

3. Kyle Long, Oregon

4. Larry Warford, Kentucky

5. Brian Winters, Kent State

 

Rise: Long (4)

 

Tackle

1. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan

2. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M

3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma

4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama

T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State

T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse

 

Rise: Fisher (2)

 

4-3 Defensive End

1. Ezekiel Ansah, BYU

2. Bjoern Werner, Florida State

3. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M

4. Sam Montgomery, LSU

T-5. Tank Carradine, Florida State

T-5. Alex Okafor, Texas

 

Rise: Ansah (2)

 

3-4 Defensive End

1. Star Lotulelei, Utah

2. Datone Jones, UCLA

3. Margus Hunt, SMU

4. William Gholston, Michigan State

5. Jesse Williams, Alabama

 

Rise: Jones (3), Gholston (5)

 

Defensive Tackle

1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida

2. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri

3. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina

4. Kawann Short, Purdue

5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

 

4-3 Outside Linebacker

1. Jarvis Jones, Georgia

2. Arthur Brown, Kansas State

3. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers

4. Sio Moore, Connecticut

5. Chase Thomas, Stanford

 

3-4 Outside Linebacker

1. Dion Jordan, Oregon

2. Barkevious Mingo, LSU

3. Jamie Collins, Southern Miss

4. Michael Buchanan, Illinois

5. Corey Lemonier, Auburn

 

Rise: Mingo (3)

 

Inside Linebacker

1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia

2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame

3. Kevin Minter, LSU

4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina

5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon

 

Cornerback

1. Dee Milliner, Alabama

2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State

3. D.J. Hayden, Houston

4. Desmond Trufant, Washington

5. Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State

 

New entry: Banks

Out: Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut

 

Safety

1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas

2. Matt Elam, Florida

3. Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International

4. Eric Reid, LSU

5. Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse

 

Source: NFL.com

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NFL Network's Mike Mayock explained on Path to the Draft Friday that he moved Eric Fisher ahead of Luke Joeckel on his offensive tackle rankings because Fisher offers more upside.

 

"I just happen to think that Fisher's ceiling is a little bit higher," Mayock said, citing Fisher's superior length, athleticism, and quicker feet. Mayock insisted that Fisher, Joeckel, and Lane Johnson all have All-Pro NFL potential. They're also likely to all be top-11 draft picks, and quite possibly top 7.

 

 

NFL Network's Mike Mayock has pegged Duke's Sean Renfree as his sleeper quarterback in the 2013 NFL draft.

 

Mayock pegged North Carolina's T.J. Yates as his sleeper quarterback before the 2011 draft. "He hurt his shoulder on the last snap of their bowl game and might not even get drafted," Mayock said of Renfree. "But he’s got the best anticipation and timing of any quarterback in this draft. Part of it is because he’s got an average arm and has to. (Duke coach) David Cutliffe told me that Sean approaches the game with a work ethic and passion similar to Peyton Manning’s."

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer