Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted August 29, 2015 Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump during the first pre-primary debate reiterated a point he’s made throughout his campaign that “the big problem this country has is being politically correct." Most Americans strongly agree with that sentiment. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 71% of American Adults think political correctness is a problem in America today, while only 18% disagree. Ten percent (10%) are undecided. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/august_2015/is_america_too_pc What do you think? Is America too PC? Is being too PC a problem, in your mind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted August 29, 2015 As I've said before, the term "politically correct" generally means "not being a jerk" so no. There are some people who are a little too intense about it, but they're way offset by the people who complain about "political correctness" as a justification for racism and homophobia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted August 29, 2015 I think a lot of it is growing pains with the current connectivity in the world. Used to be you could chill out with your friends and say whatever the fuck you wanted to and nobody but those who were physically with you would know about it. Now, instead of those thoughts being shared with a close group of friends they get posted to twitter or facebook for the whole world's consumption. When the audience is broadened that much, unless you're mindful of it, you will offend people. I think that also bleeds into the physical world. When communities were more separate you didn't really care what was going on outside of your community. Further, if you disagreed with how your community was working you could move somewhere else (okay, that was probably somewhat limited, travel has also become easier) and then you no longer have to care what your old community was doing. Now, it's so easy to see what's going on in the rest of the world so we've got different cultures that can't ignore each other, and I think we're still going through the adjustment of figuring out how to deal with that. I'm sure nobody else follows Virginia politics, but I always think of the George Allen example. Allen (the son of the former Redskins' coach of the same name and brother of current Redskins' GM Bruce Allen) was Virginia Governor then a US Senator and was getting some attention as a potential Presidential candidate, then the 2006 Senate re-election campaign happened. Allen made one mistake, at rallies in Southwest Virginia (the middle of nowhere) he referred to a staffer of his opponent's campaign as a "macaca," which is a kind of monkey. The guy was of Indian decent (from the subcontinent of India) so the comment was blown up and basically killed the guy's political career. 30 years ago, nobody outside of those rallies would have known about it and those who'd heard wouldn't have cared. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted August 29, 2015 I don't think we're too politically correct. But a lot of people are way too easily offended. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OSUViking 505 Posted August 29, 2015 The only way political correctness really bothers me is when it affects my papers for school. I had to write an intro paper for a women's studies class that I'm in, and I was warned that I would lose points if I used the grammatically correct term "his" when dealing with ambiguous subjects instead of "theirs". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted August 29, 2015 When I can't tell an inmate if he doesn't like prison he shouldn't fucking commit a crime? Yeah, too PC America is so pussified and it's not even funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted August 30, 2015 Political correctness is essentially, "don't be a cunt or you'll be ostracized for it." It's really not an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted August 30, 2015 Can we at least admit the people who get offended over every little thing are just as much of a detriment to society as people who don't observe any political correctness at all? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted August 30, 2015 I think those people are more of a detriment, Sarge. Just MO though. Thank God for Trump not being PC. Too hilarious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted August 30, 2015 Can we at least admit the people who get offended over every little thing are just as much of a detriment to society as people who don't observe any political correctness at all? No because they aren't. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted August 30, 2015 So it's ok for people to get offended for no reason? On what grounds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted August 30, 2015 Because they're at least coming from a good place, as opposed to the people who are just complaining that they can't say racist things. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted August 30, 2015 Because they're at least coming from a good place, as opposed to the people who are just complaining that they can't say racist things. Misconceptions are awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted August 30, 2015 It's a fine line. I think it's good that we're aware that marginalizing and putting people down is pretty dickish, but at the same time I think as long as it's not malicious and it's said as a joke we shouldn't be so worried about offending people and people shouldn't be so easily offended. I think when it's part of the dialogue and people communicate and understand where the other is coming from we all generally can get along better. I also think it's pretty easy to tell the difference between somebody who is a douche that's pretending to be just joking and somebody who actually is joking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted August 30, 2015 I'm not talking about race. I completely understand and appreciate sensitivity when it comes to things such as race and sexual orientation, since those are actually scenarios that call for it. I'm talking about people who are offended, and, for some dumb reason, scared, that I (responsibly) own and maintain firearms. I'm talking about people who get offended when a guy like Bernie Sanders suggests rich people should actually do this crazy thing called pay taxes. I'm talking about people who get offended at the notion that people actually deserve to get paid decent money for working their lives away. People get offended when we say things like kids deserve to go to college without being debt slaves. People get offended when the idea that healthcare should be a right and not a privilege comes up in a discussion. Because why should we, the taxpayers, pay for what everyone else does? It is so offensive that my tax dollars makes life better for everyone else, right? And then when people actually think for two seconds about what our government does and makes available to people on a daily basis... they realize that in many ways we already are a socialist government. My tax dollars already make life better for you, and vice versa. Even the rich benefit from paying taxes and enjoying the benefits of what that tax money goes to. You could argue that anyone who ever used any public good or service is practicing socialism. Food stamps, social security, medicare, free lunch at school, unemployment benefits, student loans, etc... all technically socialism. I personally think the reason our government is in the shape it's in is because of lot of people aren't willing to go all the way with socialism (and most people in the government are rich, so that's understandable). But if you look at other economies that are essentially socialist (Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Finland, etc...) the people in these countries enjoy a much higher standard of living than the average person here. Because they don't sweat things like healthcare, education, and other stresses that are unique to citizens here. But people get offended by these notions because the media kills Bernie by using Socialism as a buzz word that should be avoided at all costs. So maybe my problem is with what the media tells people to be offended by, not the actual people themselves. I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butta54 371 Posted August 31, 2015 Yes America is. Yes it's a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted August 31, 2015 I'm not talking about race. I completely understand and appreciate sensitivity when it comes to things such as race and sexual orientation, since those are actually scenarios that call for it. I'm talking about people who are offended, and, for some dumb reason, scared, that I (responsibly) own and maintain firearms. I'm talking about people who get offended when a guy like Bernie Sanders suggests rich people should actually do this crazy thing called pay taxes. I'm talking about people who get offended at the notion that people actually deserve to get paid decent money for working their lives away. People get offended when we say things like kids deserve to go to college without being debt slaves. People get offended when the idea that healthcare should be a right and not a privilege comes up in a discussion. Because why should we, the taxpayers, pay for what everyone else does? It is so offensive that my tax dollars makes life better for everyone else, right? And then when people actually think for two seconds about what our government does and makes available to people on a daily basis... they realize that in many ways we already are a socialist government. My tax dollars already make life better for you, and vice versa. Even the rich benefit from paying taxes and enjoying the benefits of what that tax money goes to. You could argue that anyone who ever used any public good or service is practicing socialism. Food stamps, social security, medicare, free lunch at school, unemployment benefits, student loans, etc... all technically socialism. I personally think the reason our government is in the shape it's in is because of lot of people aren't willing to go all the way with socialism (and most people in the government are rich, so that's understandable). But if you look at other economies that are essentially socialist (Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Finland, etc...) the people in these countries enjoy a much higher standard of living than the average person here. Because they don't sweat things like healthcare, education, and other stresses that are unique to citizens here. But people get offended by these notions because the media kills Bernie by using Socialism as a buzz word that should be avoided at all costs. So maybe my problem is with what the media tells people to be offended by, not the actual people themselves. I dunno. True, but is not offending those kinds of idiotic people being "politically correct"? I guess I see it as not offending people who'd have true cause to be offended. That's not a real thing somewhere, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted August 31, 2015 Democratic Presidential candidate Martin O'Malley was at a rally last month... Black Lives Matter activists were shouting the entire time and interrupting him, demanding that he address the issues of police brutality and criminal justice. They began chanting " Black Lives Matter " O'Malley responded with, " Black lives matter. White lives matter. All lives matter ". The guy got instantly booed to ridiculous levels. He was later forced to apologize for his comment. I am sorry... But... That is some serious, straight up bull shit. The guy was forced to apologize because he considers all lives important and not just those of blacks?'Murica, Pls 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted September 1, 2015 Because the point of "black lives matter" isn't to say "black people matter more." Its to say "hey! black people are being treated like shit in the US." Saying "all lives matter" is essentially saying "we're all being treated equally, and there isnt a problem with black people being treated worse." 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Favre4Ever+ 4,476 Posted September 1, 2015 Because the point of "black lives matter" isn't to say "black people matter more." Its to say "hey! black people are being treated like shit in the US." Saying "all lives matter" is essentially saying "we're all being treated equally, and there isnt a problem with black people being treated worse." No, that's not what it's saying at all. If Black Lives Matters means black people are being mistreated how does All Lives Matter mean everyone is equal? That's some skewed logic you have there bro. I mean, usually I can at least say, "we have to agree to disagree" or " I can at least see your perspective "... But not this. That is just straight up ignorance. Black Lives Matter and their movement is an extreme detriment to this country. It's taking real issues facing communities and blaming it on the police. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted September 1, 2015 Martin O'Malley is the real MVP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted September 1, 2015 No, that's not what it's saying at all. If Black Lives Matters means black people are being mistreated how does All Lives Matter mean everyone is equal? That's some skewed logic you have there bro. I mean, usually I can at least say, "we have to agree to disagree" or " I can at least see your perspective "... But not this. That is just straight up ignorance. Black Lives Matter and their movement is an extreme detriment to this country. It's taking real issues facing communities and blaming it on the police. "All lives matter" implies that the problems are not unique to black people. The black lives matters movement is because of the many cases of black people being treated like second class citizens. Just saying "all lives matter" does not call attention to the particular plight of black people in america. In fact, the use of it as a response is implying that black peoples' problems should not be a high priority. That implication isn't always intended by the speaker, but it comes through regardless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites