ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted October 9, 2014 Vick knew how to win games. Period. In the playoffs, in the season. We could count on him if necessary. We put the game on Ryan with EVERYTHING around him and he still chokes. Vick was electric, he could create plays where there were none, and ultimately played on some shit teams and still made the most of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KempBolt 498 Posted October 10, 2014 Expect Ryan has a way better win %. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted October 10, 2014 And Vick was awful in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted October 10, 2014 If you believe that Vick is better than Ryan from the aspect of purely being a good quarterback, you have an extreme amount of bias clotting your view. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glanvilles Grits 142 Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Antonio Brown Justin Houston Chandler Jones Muhammad Wilkerson Arthur Jones Had to throw one out to the Jones' brothers. My cousin went to school with Arthur at Maine Endwell. Cool family too. I enjoy watching to see what their going to do, I've never met them personally, but I have met Jon "Bones" Jones, who still actually owns a home around here. Favorite pub, "Stu's Place" lol. Dude can drink! Vick knew how to win games. Period. In the playoffs, in the season. We could count on him if necessary. We put the game on Ryan with EVERYTHING around him and he still chokes. Vick was electric, he could create plays where there were none, and ultimately played on some shit teams and still made the most of it. With this post, I've instantly come to the conclusion that either one, you are drunk... Or two, you're an absolute raging idiot to think Vick was better than Ryan. Vick knew how to win games? Vick didn't even know the damn playbook and he admitted that. The only thing that kept Vick from the doghouse (harrrr) and the bench was the fact that he was a high draft pick and he could run. The latter probably mostly due to the fact he spent most his life running from thugs and police officers. He sucked as a quarterback. Edited October 10, 2014 by Rain Man 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted October 10, 2014 1. DeMarcus Ware. Who would have guessed, right? 2. Marshawn Lynch. Fantastic player to watch who rarely loses yards. 3. Thomas Davis. 3 surgeries doesn't often equate to underrated stud who might be better than his running mate who everybody loves. 4. Tyrann Mathieu. Playmaker! 5. Fred Jackson. He's been the best back in Buffalo for years and yet he always gets talked about like the second stringer. Annoys me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glanvilles Grits 142 Posted October 10, 2014 1. DeMarcus Ware. Who would have guessed, right? 2. Marshawn Lynch. Fantastic player to watch who rarely loses yards. 3. Thomas Davis. 3 surgeries doesn't often equate to underrated stud who might be better than his running mate who everybody loves. 4. Tyrann Mathieu. Playmaker! 5. Fred Jackson. He's been the best back in Buffalo for years and yet he always gets talked about like the second stringer. Annoys me. Technically, Fred Jackson is the 2nd stringer. I never really understood that though either. I feel like the Bills keep Spiller atop the depth because of his big play potential, and more so because they are stuck on him. They know he can make huge plays, but man, sometimes he is just painful to watch. Jackson has been a model of consistency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KempBolt 498 Posted October 10, 2014 So I did a little digging into Vick vs. Ryan to see what the actual winning % was of the two players in games they actually started (going by seasons doesn't actually work because Vick misses a lot of starts). So Vick, who was not the starter for 25 games (started 71 out of 96 possible) over his six seasons with the Falcons, led the Falcons to victory in 55% of the games that he started. So he did indeed win more games than he lost when he was able to go, but he also missed over a quarter of those games so you have to weigh that. Ryan, who has only missed two games as a starter over his six seasons with the Falcons (94 of out 96 possible), has led the Falcons to victory in 64% of the games that he's started. So he wins more often when he's the starter, and he has missed way fewer games than Vick. The % difference would mean 8 more wins for Ryan over a 96 game (6 season) sample. When you consider that he has started 24% more often than Vick, that higher win % has an even bigger impact-- twenty-one more victories for Ryan over a 6 season sample. I don't know if this is enough to combat the "Vick knew how to win games, period" argument, but it's my best shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted October 10, 2014 You guys better learn how to read a troll comment... .... because ATL hit you guys with a big one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) So he says lol. He started backpedaling pretty hard in the shout box immediately afterward, but we all know the truth. ATL says a lot of stupid shit and then claims to be trolling all the time. Edited October 10, 2014 by seanbrock 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted October 10, 2014 It doesn't count as trolling if you're backpedaling. I bet Cholly can't even ride a bike though. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry 1,302 Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) In no order. TJ Ward Joplo Bartu Jabaal Sheard Jason Kelce Kendall Wright Just to name a few Edited October 11, 2014 by Chernobyl426 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllYouNeedIsLovie 377 Posted October 11, 2014 1. Calvin Johnson 2. Andre Johnson 3. Lance Briggs 4. Navorro Bowman 5. Darrelle Revis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartWaffles 1,857 Posted October 12, 2014 In no specific order... Darren Sproles :Patriots: Tom Brady Cam Newton Earl Thomas Cameron Wake 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wattafan 28 Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) #1 is Peyton Manning. Will go down as one of the best ever. Aaron Rodgers and Andrew Luck are also fabulous QB's. One also has to admire Russell Wilson here. #2 is probably Rob Gronkowski. One of the best ever at his position. #3 Wes Welker. For such a little guy plays with tremendous heart and is very skillful = a great player. #4 Darelle Revis. Great at his position and does the job without histrionics. #5 Marshawn Lynch. Bulldozing RB and so hard to bring down. Honorable mention for Tom Brady and Patrick Willis. And Jason Witten. Edited October 12, 2014 by Wattafan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F 2,241 Posted October 13, 2014 JJ Watt Cam Newton Alshon Jefferey RGIII Can't think of anyone else... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch 874 Posted October 13, 2014 JJ Watt Cam Newton Alshon Jefferey RGIII Can't think of anyone else... Brandon Marshall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted October 13, 2014 Forgot to add Terrell Suggs Stevie Johnson Gio Rolando McClain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glanvilles Grits 142 Posted October 16, 2014 In no order. TJ Ward Joplo Bartu Jabaal Sheard Jason Kelce Kendall Wright Just to name a few Why bartu? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC 331 Posted February 17, 2017 Antonio Brown Adrian Peterson Jimmy Graham Robert Quinn Vontaze Burfict Haha wow. These days I'm not all too enamored with Robert Quinn, and while I like Jimmy he's certainly not the dream player I used to think of him as. 1. Antonio Brown 2. Jordy Nelson 3. Rob Gronkowski 4. Khalil Mack 5. Ben Roethlisberger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted February 17, 2017 Rodgers Watt Antonio Brown Bobby Wagner Thomas Davis because how can you not love Thomas Davis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge+ 3,436 Posted February 17, 2017 Julio Jones Landon Collins Rob Gronkowski Von Miller Khalil Mack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Packers Dynasty 2010 116 Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) JJ Watt Melvin Gordon Earl Thomas III Eric Berry Jay Cutler, dude always finds a way to help the Packers win Edited February 17, 2017 by Packers Dynasty 2010 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Vick knew how to win games. Period. In the playoffs, in the season. We could count on him if necessary. We put the game on Ryan with EVERYTHING around him and he still chokes. Vick was electric, he could create plays where there were none, and ultimately played on some shit teams and still made the most of it. member? Edited February 17, 2017 by seanbrock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteVo+ 3,702 Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Cool topic idea. Wish I commented a few years ago so I could compare lists. I can't really put any of these guys above the other, so here's a top 5 in alphabetical order. Tom Brady - Self-explanatory. Larry Fitzgerald - Still an awesome receiver, and he represents a level of class and loyalty that is all-too rare in today's NFL. Julio Jones - His athleticism is just remarkable. Those Super Bowl catches were insane. LeSean McCoy - Always loved watching this guy juke defenders. Miss you, Shady. Aaron Rodgers - Self-explanatory. Edited February 17, 2017 by SteVo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites