RazorStar 4,025 Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) When will this bullshit end? These kids are at a fucking birthday party, and some white women call the cops, and this guy goes on a fucking rampage, singling out every single black kid at the party, and manhandling this poor girl like a fucking gorilla, and he even pulled out his gun. This is the kind of blatant intolerance that cannot be stood for any longer. We might need a war on police at this rate. The grunts are corrupt, the police force is corrupt, the legislators are corrupt, it's all a fucking mess. There are very few things that bring my rage to a boiling point, but abusing power is absolutely one of those things. His name is Eric Casebolt. He is a traitor to the virtues that the police are meant to uphold. If people do not feel safe or secure when you are around, you have failed as a police officer. I might be canadian, but when I see shit like this, I have to say something. I want to make people care, if they care we can change what is wrong in this world. The power of the majority has to be a very real thing, if not we continue to let cases like this go unpunished. The officer has been suspended and the investigation is pending. I can only hope the law serves it's intended purpose, but that's like hoping a broken clock will show the right time. Edited June 9, 2015 by BartStar 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bay 2,003 Posted June 9, 2015 Maybe MDC (Millons of Dead Cops) wasn't so wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iVvESik9CA I remember getting intimidated and busted at age 13 by the police. I remember my friend Tate Bryan getting shot in the back in Tampa, FL for his first-offense burglary. I remember the police firing at the crowds and killing children cause they were the wrong color. I remember the narcs from my high school trying to set me up for a big fall. I remember the police bringing dogs into our school and sniffing away my rights. The police is the klan is the mafia and they're out for me, and soon they're going to be out to get you, so you better get going if you know it's good for you and take your stand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucman 891 Posted June 9, 2015 Cops were called because a bunch of people showed up that weren't suppose to be there? . I think dude was just angry he face planted in front of a bunch of people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted June 9, 2015 Oh no, they had invitations, the police were phoned in because some other suburbanites got scared about the riffraff entering their neighbourhood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted June 9, 2015 "Massacre"? Really? You do realize nobody was killed, right? You realize that nobody was even hurt, right? I'm not saying this incident isn't bullshit, but you don't have to act like it's more than it is to get your point across. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maverick 791 Posted June 9, 2015 "Massacre"? Really? You do realize nobody was killed, right? You realize that nobody was even hurt, right? I'm not saying this incident isn't bullshit, but you don't have to act like it's more than it is to get your point across. Very tough to derive from Razor's posts whether he's being serious, facetious, or a little of both. I'm going to go with the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted June 9, 2015 Very tough to derive from Razor's posts whether he's being serious, facetious, or a little of both. I'm going to go with the latter. with "massacre" in the title, I didn't get much further Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025 Posted June 9, 2015 Why is he running that fast though? At first I thought he barrel rolled like a fucking nerd But yeah I guess he just trips and rolls with it. The whole point is this dude is treating the situation like he's in massive danger and he's just not. The guy is scared shitless — so much so that he pulls out his gun. Whatever happened to showing up with a fucking megaphone and telling everyone to leave? Cops used to do that at parties or places where too many people showed up all the time. This dude acts like he got dropped into Gotham. What a clown. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maverick 791 Posted June 9, 2015 Why is he running that fast though? At first I thought he barrel rolled like a fucking nerd But yeah I guess he just trips and rolls with it. The whole point is this dude is treating the situation like he's in massive danger and he's just not. The guy is scared shitless — so much so that he pulls out his gun. Whatever happened to showing up with a fucking megaphone and telling everyone to leave? Cops used to do that at parties or places where too many people showed up all the time. This dude acts like he got dropped into Gotham. What a clown. FWIW. Whether you think it was created by some redneck that's stretching here or maybe there's a legitimate reason for drawing his weapon that's up to you to decide, but I figured I post it in the thread since it was related. I'm still not sure what to think of the whole situation. Cops seemed out of their element - or "shook" as TGP would have it. I don't agree with the way the officer aggressively handled the girl. I can't say too much without knowing all of the facts, especially in how it got to this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted June 9, 2015 it also seems that the video starts in the middle of the skirmish, which makes it impossible to really tell what's going on, now I do think the police have a duty to de-escalate matters, but I don't think it's fair to look at this and judge their actions without really knowing what they're responding to FWIW, here's a write-up from CNN with two very different eyewitness accounts: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/09/us/mckinney-texas-pool-party-video/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted June 9, 2015 Sorry, I was drawing parallels to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. You have to know I'm bit of a sensationalist deep down inside. My awful jokes don't always hit, after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparty 110 Posted June 9, 2015 Modern day paparazzi: follow police cars with a good cam quality phone and film every little thing happening in hopes of getting a big viral video going on. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted June 9, 2015 Sure, but there's a limit to what is needed to be done. What he did to that girl has to be under some sort of excessive force. Targeting specifically black people and telling only them to sit down, even if those kids were not supposed to be there, the way this situation was handled was vile and excessive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BwareDWare94 723 Posted June 9, 2015 Are people actually downplaying this? This guy should lose his job and be charged with assault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted June 9, 2015 Are people actually downplaying this? This guy should lose his job and be charged with assault. I am not opposed to charging and letting things sort out in court, I am opposed to deciding what happened based on a single account Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucman 891 Posted June 9, 2015 Modern day paparazzi: follow police cars with a good cam quality phone and film every little thing happening in hopes of getting a big viral video going on. Pls go back to your corner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos 2,847 Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Totally fucking different story here, from a black resident of the neighborhood: Embry has lived at Craig Ranch, a planned community in McKinney, for eight years. He said it's a nice place. Racially diverse. People get along there. He said when he was at the community pool Friday, a crowd of teenagers showed up, even though Craig Ranch's strict homeowners' association rules prohibit bringing more than two guests to the pool. The teens huddled by the gate and shouted to let them in. Some jumped over the fence, Embry said. A security guard tried to get them to leave but was outnumbered, so the guard called police. "Let me reiterate, the neighbors or the neighborhood did not call the police because this was an African-American party or whatever the situation is," he said. "This was not a racially motivated event -- at all. This whole thing is being blown completely out of proportion." Embry did say he was disturbed to see the officer kneel on top of the bikini-clad girl and wave his gun at other teens. "I may or may not agree with everything that the police officer did, but I do believe he was trying to establish order," he said. Edited June 9, 2015 by Thanatos19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oochymp 2,393 Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Totally fucking different story here, from a black resident of the neighborhood: Embry has lived at Craig Ranch, a planned community in McKinney, for eight years. He said it's a nice place. Racially diverse. People get along there. He said when he was at the community pool Friday, a crowd of teenagers showedup, even though Craig Ranch's strict homeowners' association rules prohibit bringing more than two guests to the pool. The teens huddled by the gate and shouted to let them in. Some jumped over the fence, Embry said. A security guard tried to get them to leave but was outnumbered, so the guard called police. "Let me reiterate, the neighbors or the neighborhood did not call the police because this was an African-American party or whatever the situation is," he said. "This was not a racially motivated event -- at all. This whole thing is being blown completely out of proportion." Embry did say he was disturbed to see the officer kneel on top of the bikini-clad girl and wave his gun at other teens. "I may or may not agree with everything that the police officer did, but I do believe he was trying to establish order," he said. That's from the CNN article I posted above, but thanks for adding it as I'm not sure anyone actually clicked the link In all fairness, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle and all parties likely had a role in the escalation. I do think it's fair as well to hold the officers involved to a higher standard because they're professionals and it's their job to keep the peace, but you can't just watch one short video that starts halfway through the confrontation and decide you know everything that went on. Edited June 9, 2015 by oochymp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RazorStar 4,025 Posted June 9, 2015 Of course, but at what point do you craft a narrative that the police officer was remotely justified in his action. I know we're not seeing the whole story here, but can you strap a beginning that makes sense to that climax? Here's what I'm getting from this: There was a birthday party going on in this gated community, and the birthdayee had invited a bunch of friends. The rules of the community meant that she couldn't actually invite so many people. Attempting to get in, many guests did things that were not allowed by the homeowner's association, but how would they have known that unless they lived in the community? After all they were invited. The security guard did his job to the best of his ability, and asked the police to handle the issue. "Something" happened before the incident started being filmed, leading to a gross escalation of events Everything you saw recorded happened, with only black guests being singled out by the officer in charge, and that one poor girl being viciously manhandled while she was trying to leave. I'm trying to thing of what that something could be to possibly invoke that sort of savagery, because I am really struggling here to find a justification for his abuse of power. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack_of_Steel+ 3,014 Posted June 9, 2015 I'm not surprised at the few that are taking every measure to absolve the police of guilt. It's the same few that do this for every abuse of power situation that's discussed on TGP. oochymp, I get that you went to law school and you always want to play devil's advocate just because and that you're from the south, which is generally pro-police, but it's disgusting that you can look at that video and not be outraged at the treatment of that girl. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATL_Predator+ 1,196 Posted June 9, 2015 Unacceptable. Utterly disgusting. Do people not see that these are teens? There may be a lot of them, but the fact police came in acting like they were going to stop a fucking murderer was ridiculous. Drawing gun before taser too is ridiculous, the kid has nothing on him. He just is trying to defend his friend that's being dragged along like a ragdoll. As a law enforcement officer...I will always support my fellow brethren, but some things are impossible to defend. This is one of those cases. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blotsfan 2,112 Posted June 9, 2015 Reoorts are that the residents were telling the kids "go back to section 8." It's a good thing racism doesn't exist anymore or that'd be awful. 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seanbrock 1,684 Posted June 9, 2015 Pretty much Zack summed my thoughts up on this thread and the responses. What reason does a police officer ever have to throw a 15 year old girl on the ground, pull her hair and put his knee into her while she's on the ground? As for the guy who went after the cop and backed off, what would you do if that was your sister or your cousin? You might be pissed and want to knock the dude out. It's also sad that none of the other officers attempted to say "hey man, I got this, you're our of line." Teenagers trying to enter a community pool when the rules say they can't all be there is not that big of a deal. Like campin said, why not use a megaphone? I agree that it should go to court and he should be charged like oochy said, but if the department has any integrity they'd fire this guy for a use of excessive force like that against an unarmed teenage girl. I think at this point it's pretty clear that police need to undergo and extensive or maybe more extensive pschy evaluation and should continue to receive them periodically in order to remain on the force. There also needs to be some kind of accountability for police when they break the law. That shield doesn't make you above the law, it only allows you to enforce it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucman 891 Posted June 9, 2015 #BREAKING ~ McKinney PD Cpl. Eric Casebolt resigns due to actions in pool party video http://bit.ly/1FHwRMn 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
