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#1 SteVo

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 12:53 PM

 

 

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#2 FartWaffles

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 01:42 PM

Raiders, why are you being a dumb? Mark my words, this will destroy/waste some of the most important years of Derek Carr's career.
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Posted 05 January 2018 - 01:59 PM

Well, it's going to be interesting... maybe not the kind of interesting the Raiders want, but we'll see.
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Posted 05 January 2018 - 03:32 PM

Do people just forget why Gruden has been in the booth for almost a decade? He got fired (traded) to the Buccaneers... The year after he left, Raiders QB Rich Gannon was league MVP.. lmao. Bucs got lucky with a really shitty offense and great defense and win a SB... Bucs slowly get worse and worse as the defense ages and they can't replace the pieces. Offense still sucked and he was fired.

Why is it going to be any different now?


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Posted 05 January 2018 - 04:11 PM

My biggest question is how much say over personnel Gruden has. Part of the reason, in my humble opinion, his Bucs teams declined in talent was because he had increasingly larger say over personnel. Do you guys remember when he had something like six QBs on his roster?

 

Can Gruden and Reggie McKenzie coexist in a way where McKenzie handles the roster? Because he has demonstrated he's a pretty darn good GM. Hand the keys to Gruden and I think you're looking at a spectacular meltdown in Vegas.


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Posted 05 January 2018 - 04:33 PM

Really curious to see the transition. While I could be wrong, I feel like there is a LOT that Gruden has learned from spending so much time in the booth. He has a lot of connections and a lot of info that other coaches might not have had access to while he was working for ESPN. We saw John Lynch come in with some fire and energy as the SF GM. Wonder if Jon will come in with that same kind of fire.


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Posted 06 January 2018 - 12:16 AM

Reggie denied a request to interview for the Packers GM job -- which makes me think that his power won't be diminished much if at all. Granted, that's easy to say right now. Who knows what kind of power struggles could break out in the future. 


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Posted 06 January 2018 - 08:45 PM

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It's easy to forget after the glorious 2002 Super Bowl season, Gruden went 45-51 with the Bucs from 2003-2008 with no playoff wins and failed to keep the roster talented going forward. Which is why he was fired in favor of a all out rebuild of youth that obviously didn't pan out well for us but we were put in that predicament because of Gruden and company's poor personel decisions. I like the guy and respect him, but he's not an all time great coach and he got mad overpaid.


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 04:32 PM

I'm excited for this :yep:


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Thanatos : (05 November 2017 - 05:34 PM)I kinda wish I was a hawks fan, must be nice to know your QB is going to pull some bullshit magic horseshoe out of his ass in the second half

                


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 11:30 PM

100 million for him lulz. What a fugging joke that Mark Davis guy is.

 

Belichick should be demanding 1 billion from Kraft or he is walking. 


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:32 AM

They could hire a stick with a hair piece and still win.The fact is the Raiders appear to be moving. If they are/do, they will be winning just like the Rams have with their move.
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 07:35 AM

I'm just mad he won't be calling MNF games drunk anymore lol.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:14 AM

I cant for the life of me understand this mans allure. I have thought about this for a while now, and it still does not make any sense.

 

He served under Seifert who served under Bill Walsh in San Francisco which is something because he can learn from a true innovator of offense, and he would have an intricate knowledge of the West coast offense. That being said he was there for one year as an assistant and Bill Walsh was not even there. Also the offense had roger Craig, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, and Tom Rathman. If you cant scheme that as a coach, you blow.

 

Then Pittsburgh as a WR coach, there WR's were ass that year and every year. Bubby Brister was no helo I am sure though.

 

Then he went to Green Bay with MIKE HOLMGREN. Talk about another brilliant offensive mind. And again on a loaded offensive team, which was loaded before and after he was there.

 

Then the Eagles which was unremarkable.

 

Then the Raiders which sucked. They got respectable under Callahan.

 

Then to where he made his name in Tampa. And by made his name take a loaded defense that Dungy built that was coached by Monte fucking Kiffin, with assistant defensive coaches like Marinelli, and Mike Tomlin. He had an offense that handed the ball of to the bull Mike Alstott and told pittman to follow him when he wasnt carrying it. Occasionally have Johnson throw a pass to Keyshawn Johnson. He then destroyed the roster and came NOWHERE close to that again and set the BUcs in a hole they are just now leaving.

 

I really dont see who that he is more than a middle of the pack coach based on evidence.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 12:04 PM

I have a lot to say about this....

 

But In the meantime... you can find me trying to find the highest point near me to jump.


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Posted 11 January 2018 - 12:44 PM

Rich Gannon declined an offer to become the Raiders QB coach


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